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eSTRO dissolves, draft for outgoing players. - Page 4

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trevabob
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom350 Posts
October 12 2010 10:21 GMT
#61
On October 12 2010 19:15 Sanguinarius wrote:
Hopefully drafting does go last to first. I think helping some of the weaker teams could make for a really exciting season.


Hmmm, what would that mean for HITE ENTUS or CJ SPARKYZ or whatever the fuck they're calling the merged team? Does that mean we get Action? Oooh I do hope so :D
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
October 12 2010 10:26 GMT
#62
Please please please KT, make sure to get Action. I don't care if you're the last team to be able to draft a player, bribe all the other teams with a year long supply of chicken or something, just get Action :<
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
October 12 2010 10:29 GMT
#63
On October 12 2010 17:39 Fadetowhite wrote:
i am actually hoping for most of the players to retire and move to SC2 so we get to see more high lvl players in GSL Season 3 / 4. plus if they put up a good show in S3 they might just get seeded.

Read: "I can't wait for a proleague of my favorite game to develop 2 months after release, so I hope yours dies and joins mine instead!"
It's not like there's an influx of great players of all kinds of games already, is there? These kinds of posts make me way too emotional. It's almost like being repeatedly trolled, only that the trolls are completely serious.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
bluesoup
Profile Joined March 2009
Macedonia107 Posts
October 12 2010 11:05 GMT
#64
So here we are, why KeSPA and their setup is bad:
None of these players will have a chance to negotiate a contract on their own (i.e. get best offer), even if their team is disbanding and contracts are terminated. They are going to be drafted like livestock with very little saying of their own.
Their only option if they don't like the team that is picking them is to forfeit their progamer license (and/or move to SC2)
I might not agree/like with what Blizzard is doing to Proleague, but this modern slavery is just disgusting, rotten and deserves to die.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
October 12 2010 11:14 GMT
#65
REALLY sad to see the most foreigner friendly team get dissolved, I was hoping they'd get bought out. T_T

R.I.P. Estro. You did well. ._.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
October 12 2010 11:16 GMT
#66
Action and Really should get picked up in a second, Classic has potential too.
KTY
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 12 2010 11:25 GMT
#67
On October 12 2010 19:21 trevabob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 19:15 Sanguinarius wrote:
Hopefully drafting does go last to first. I think helping some of the weaker teams could make for a really exciting season.


Hmmm, what would that mean for HITE ENTUS or CJ SPARKYZ or whatever the fuck they're calling the merged team? Does that mean we get Action? Oooh I do hope so :D


the only fair way to do it is to pick from cj's spot. having a team make the playoffs and then improve through getting leta, horang2 and other bitpart players on a free getting the first pick would be absurd. cj hite's current zergs will just have to put in more effort to get to action's level.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
October 12 2010 11:25 GMT
#68
Really for KHAN i hope
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada378 Posts
October 12 2010 11:30 GMT
#69
Become really fond of BW over the last couple years, these big changes are disappointing but probably necessary.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 12 2010 11:42 GMT
#70
actually, thinking about it, there's probably a decent chance that CJ do get action. if we assume that they draft in proleague finishing order, it might look something like:

khan - probably take really, need a terran
oz - their current zerg is quite good, terran options ok, maybe take flying?
stars - need terran badly, take classic. obv don't need zerg as we have zero/soulkey and kwanro was surplus to requirements
cj - action obv
wemade - possibly grape? don't think that hyvaa is any better than roro/shine and they only really have pure in terms of protoss
mbc - hyvaa obv
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 11:55:03
October 12 2010 11:53 GMT
#71
So it seems whatever KeSPA is doing with eSTRO is happening tomorrow.
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 16:56:46
October 12 2010 12:03 GMT
#72
Samsung Khan: Will pick Really or Classic
OZ: Sames goes for what KHAN
Woongjin Stars: Action or hyvaa
Hite Entus: They need a zerg since Hogil isn't cut for it. So what I put in Woongjin Stars
Wemade Fox: Protoss so I suggest Flying
MBC : Protoss or Zerg
KT: No Need
SKT1: No need
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 12:18:31
October 12 2010 12:08 GMT
#73
On October 12 2010 20:53 GTR wrote:
So it seems whatever KeSPA is doing with eSTRO is happening tomorrow.


http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=33228
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111100&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 12 2010 12:08 GMT
#74
This is great and much needed for BW to become a solid force. Weak teams all over the place is much worse for BW than disbandment of a single team strengthening all the others. Same goes for the Hite+CJ combo.
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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
October 12 2010 12:26 GMT
#75
good luck estro
savior did nothing wrong
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
October 12 2010 12:31 GMT
#76
Hm, did TL remove the sig logos? Because I find it odd that no one ITT has one
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 12 2010 12:47 GMT
#77
On October 12 2010 20:05 bluesoup wrote:
So here we are, why KeSPA and their setup is bad:
None of these players will have a chance to negotiate a contract on their own (i.e. get best offer), even if their team is disbanding and contracts are terminated. They are going to be drafted like livestock with very little saying of their own.
Their only option if they don't like the team that is picking them is to forfeit their progamer license (and/or move to SC2)
I might not agree/like with what Blizzard is doing to Proleague, but this modern slavery is just disgusting, rotten and deserves to die.


This is fucking ridiculous. modern slavery, are you nuts?
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 12 2010 12:54 GMT
#78
Why is everyone talking about Really getting drafted ? I am almost sure he said he hated to be a progamer and would retire in the case eSTRO disbanded.
ॐ
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8091 Posts
October 12 2010 13:17 GMT
#79
RIP eSTRO
Free Palestine
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
October 12 2010 13:26 GMT
#80
This is awful. Goodby eSTRO... goodbye, goodbye...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
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