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[H] Why use 1a2a3a4a to attack?

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Lhefriel_Medies
Profile Joined May 2009
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-24 20:37:40
May 24 2009 20:37 GMT
#1
I'm very new to the game, having started a week or two ago after AP testing was over and school was about to end, but I've been looking through a lot of guides and FPVODs and such, and one thing I've always found was that 1a2a3a was considered to be sort of the default spam for the game. From Tasteless saying that something is as easy as 1a2a3a on a cast for the GomTV Classic to seeing Stylish have a spam competition with an opponent with the configuration, I've always been slightly confused as to why that would be.

From what I can gather from standard hotkey setups, the sequence would used to command units to attack. I get that you sometimes need the attack command to target neutral buildings, but it sort of struck me that that would be the only use. It seems much more efficient at first glance to simply toggle through command groups and right click, rather than commanding to attack.

So I'm wondering if there's any reason that a is generally used. A more efficient movement or faster attack or something as such? Help please, and thanks in advance.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
May 24 2009 20:40 GMT
#2
Right-click issues a move command if you don't click on an enemy unit, so your units will attempt to move to that location. 1a2a3a is often preferable when moving across the map so your units don't kamikazee charge into enemy units but attack them instead should they encounter any along the way. When already in combat 1a2a3a is preferable because if you try to right-click and miss an enemy unit your own units will again suicide charge into the battle.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
May 24 2009 20:40 GMT
#3
if you right click they won't attack anything. if you attack click they will attack things.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
May 24 2009 20:41 GMT
#4
Troll.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 24 2009 20:47 GMT
#5
1a2a3a clicking on the ground will cause your units to stop to attack any units or buildings they meet along the way to their destination, and will keep attacking through enemy units/buildings until they reach their destination.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 24 2009 20:48 GMT
#6
1a2a3a is much better than regular attack move in certain MU's especially. ex. PvT moving your army across the map, there may be minefields your dragoons will simply walk into.

Also sometimes you run into harass patrol groups or something(I.E. a half dozen vultures) running across the map, if you simply right clicked they would slide right past your units.

I 1a2a3a if I don't exactly know where everything he has is just to be sure. If I do know he is 100% contained to his base or something I do right click instead of 1a2a3a when positioning my army around the map.
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Lhefriel_Medies
Profile Joined May 2009
United States28 Posts
May 24 2009 20:49 GMT
#7
Okay then. Thanks for clearing that up.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-24 20:52:57
May 24 2009 20:51 GMT
#8
Using right click to issue attack commands is a very bad choice because of:
- possibility of a misclick; if you r.click on the ground, units will move there and will not attack
- focus fire on one single unit is bad in most cases
- you cant issue an attack command on minimap(almost exclusively used by protosses ) without A-click (or patrol)
- you can't attack units in fog of war without A-click (or patrol)
SteveNick
Profile Joined November 2008
United States304 Posts
May 24 2009 21:03 GMT
#9
In addition to what everyone else has said,I would like to include that while it's good to target fire ranged units against specific enemy units to kill quickly, it's really bad to try to do that with melee units.

You almost always want to attack move melee units so that they attack in a fluid manner, rather than you units all crowding around one enemy unit.
It's all fun and games until somebody gets 4gated.
SteveNick
Profile Joined November 2008
United States304 Posts
May 24 2009 21:04 GMT
#10
As far as actual movement..generally speaking, you only use right click if you intend to run away from the battle.
It's all fun and games until somebody gets 4gated.
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
May 24 2009 21:13 GMT
#11
Awww man, from the title I was expecting an epic troll thread.
BW4Life!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 24 2009 21:17 GMT
#12
honestly always attack everywhere you go
unless its like a dt and you want to sneak it in
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Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
May 24 2009 21:21 GMT
#13
On May 25 2009 05:51 niteReloaded wrote:
- you cant issue an attack command on minimap(almost exclusively used by protosses ) without A-click (or patrol)


unless ur sauron zerging.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
May 24 2009 21:46 GMT
#14
Its just refers to not bothering to control your units, an equilvant in a current RTS game would be selecting all your units and right clicking, but since you can't select all your units, and as previously disscused, right click doesn't work in the same manner as in current RTS games.
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
May 24 2009 23:33 GMT
#15
I'm surprised you know who tasteless and stylish even are considering this is your second week playing starcraft. I would learn the units first -.-

Troll imo too.
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
May 24 2009 23:46 GMT
#16
Because there is no other way to make your army attack.

How else would you attack the enemy?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
May 24 2009 23:50 GMT
#17
On May 25 2009 05:41 404.TooEz wrote:
Troll.


Not acceptable. Strat banned for 6 months.
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MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-25 00:43:35
May 25 2009 00:03 GMT
#18
Mani's out for blood today. x.X

Oh, and and one thing, too. In regards to Infested Terrans, if you A click onto the ground, will they not blow up when they get there, regardless of what's around? I can't help but think that they were all screwed up like that, correct me if I'm wrong. Just a little food for though, seeing as how it's slightly on topic.

*Edit* After some testing with Campaign Editor, it turns out I was right. Infested Terrans will pop as soon as they get to where you clicked, if you A-click them, so do not A-click them; you risk blowing up a good portion of your own army. The only reasonable time to A-click them is if you know you are going to pass your enemy on the way or if you do it on top of a cloaked/burrowed unit(pimpest play? :D), so there's one time when your old method of simply right clicking would work. Hope that helps
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
May 25 2009 00:05 GMT
#19
If you read the tips in single player, you'd see where it says using A then clicking in the ground will make the unit attack anything on it's way to the final location.
Lhefriel_Medies
Profile Joined May 2009
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-25 00:12:14
May 25 2009 00:10 GMT
#20
On May 25 2009 08:33 Resonance wrote:
I'm surprised you know who tasteless and stylish even are considering this is your second week playing starcraft. I would learn the units first -.-

Troll imo too.


I did. This isn't my first experience playing an RTS, and it honestly doesn't take very long to familiarize yourself with units and costs; I decided to try Starcraft by watching VODs to begin with, so it really isn't that surprising that I would know who Tasteless since he seems to be more or less the only professional English caster, and I found Stylish when I was looking for starting guides and build orders on YouTube, which is also where I found this site.

Most of the RTS games that I've played are newer and with slightly more sophisticated AIs, so I've never had a problem just playing by using right-click for everything. It seems like a reasonable enough question to me. I don't think that there's any reason to be this dismissive and impolite. How could I not know the units after playing for two weeks? That's quite a long time.

On May 25 2009 08:46 Diomedes wrote:
Because there is no other way to make your army attack.

How else would you attack the enemy?


Right-clicking. But, as the others have more politely pointed out, that doesn't seem to be that great of idea.

Thanks again to everyone else for pointing out the problems with right-clicking. I will try to incorporate this into my play from now on.

EDIT:
On May 25 2009 09:05 dhe95 wrote:
If you read the tips in single player, you'd see where it says using A then clicking in the ground will make the unit attack anything on it's way to the final location.


I usually ignore those out of hand for most programs, actually. Maybe I shouldn't from now on?
theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
May 25 2009 00:28 GMT
#21
honestly i use 4a5a6a7a

its so much more comfortable for me...
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-25 00:51:06
May 25 2009 00:50 GMT
#22
Thread answered. Right click moves them. a makes them engage anything they pass by.

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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
May 25 2009 03:16 GMT
#23
Maybe you should close it then...
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