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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
March 23 2009 14:36 GMT
#461
you might also want to point out, it was not klaz who made this thread, and he never intend to market his book in teamliquid.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
racps
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom12 Posts
March 23 2009 14:37 GMT
#462
On March 23 2009 23:16 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:08 racps wrote:
On March 23 2009 23:00 motbob wrote:
Just so you guys know, there is a LOT of stigma against self-promotion on TL. And this isn't limited to newcomers by any means. Recently, a really popular and accomplished member of the community named Tasteless posted an OP with a link to a blog somewhere else. The thread was closed, with the mod saying "TL is not your personal advertising site" or something like that.

So ya, it's not just you. Any of your own material that you link to pretty much has to be relevant to the discussion at hand.


I have a question then; well, two, actually:

The rules when you log in only speak about spamming not self-promotion - is there a difference?
What's the general view of the community here on klaz's marketing coup?

R


Well I don't know what the written rule about spamming / self promotion is... but I definitely know the unwritten rule

But hot_bid's and klaz's links to their books on this thread con't count as self-promotion? R
I come in peace
achap54
Profile Joined March 2009
United States49 Posts
March 23 2009 14:40 GMT
#463
On March 22 2009 19:34 Orbifold wrote:
I was unaware of the site before Klazart's video, but its the kind of thing I would be into participating. The way the site's community reacted was so hateful and closed minded that I think I'll just take a pass though.


Hi Orbifold,

Please stop by Authonomy in a few days (it's down for 'Maintenance' right now). Why? Because the people who populate the Authonomy forums are just a fraction of the people who are busy reading and critiquing other people's works. That's not meant to deride people who prefer to spend some time on the Authonomy forums, it's just meant to point out that there are many others on Authonomy who you haven't heard from.

I've been on Authonomy since November and I've found the people there to be friendly and helpful and serious about improving their/others' writing.

Give us a try.

Al (CarolinaAl on Authonomy)

This too shall pass
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
March 23 2009 14:40 GMT
#464
Klaz was merely trying to clarify what is going down, and Hot_Bid is just trolling
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 23 2009 14:45 GMT
#465
On March 23 2009 23:40 rei wrote:
Hot_Bid is just trolling

Tell me something I don't know...

Why is it that all of the Authonomy regulars coming over here are signing their posts?
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 23 2009 14:45 GMT
#466
On March 23 2009 21:21 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 20:59 Klaz wrote:
Personally, as far as commentary goes,

I really enjoyed Chill and Co's commentary on F91 vs Idra. Much fun!

If this is meant to be a burn, my respect for Klazart just went way, way up.

no doubt it was
he doesnt react kindly to the idea that he should know something about the game hes talking about
thats why he left tl in the first place isnt it?
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 23 2009 14:45 GMT
#467
On March 23 2009 23:37 racps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:16 motbob wrote:
On March 23 2009 23:08 racps wrote:
On March 23 2009 23:00 motbob wrote:
Just so you guys know, there is a LOT of stigma against self-promotion on TL. And this isn't limited to newcomers by any means. Recently, a really popular and accomplished member of the community named Tasteless posted an OP with a link to a blog somewhere else. The thread was closed, with the mod saying "TL is not your personal advertising site" or something like that.

So ya, it's not just you. Any of your own material that you link to pretty much has to be relevant to the discussion at hand.


I have a question then; well, two, actually:

The rules when you log in only speak about spamming not self-promotion - is there a difference?
What's the general view of the community here on klaz's marketing coup?

R


Well I don't know what the written rule about spamming / self promotion is... but I definitely know the unwritten rule

But hot_bid's and klaz's links to their books on this thread con't count as self-promotion? R

hot_bid's "book" is a joke. It's a compilation of forum posts by a notorious hacker.

And obviously Klazart posting his book is very relevant to this thread.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
racps
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom12 Posts
March 23 2009 14:57 GMT
#468
Ok. All those comments taken on board.

However, by implication K's relevant posting of his link to his book on authonomy makes any other link to authonomy also relevant.

I sign all my posts, regardless of forum, web site, email. I think it's polite.

R

I come in peace
achap54
Profile Joined March 2009
United States49 Posts
March 23 2009 14:58 GMT
#469
On March 23 2009 02:22 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Seems so...kind of a shame. They had some really interesting unpublished books. I thought it was a pretty cool site.


Hi InToTheWannaB,

There are excerpts (minimum of 10,000 words) of thousands of unpublished books on Authonomy. Fiction and non-fiction. Poetry and short story collections, too. All genres from children's stories to erotica. All searchable by genre. Some authors have uploaded their entire books. It's a wonderful place for readers . . . and writers.

Thanks for visiting. Please come back soon.

Al (CarolinaAl on Authonomy)

This too shall pass
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
March 23 2009 14:59 GMT
#470
correct me if i'm wrong, isn't klaz the first to started pulling korean videos do english comment on them and then post them on youtube, it was because of that influence motrap, digity, cholera followed. Before klaz came along i was only watching Jon747's korean version.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
March 23 2009 15:00 GMT
#471
On March 23 2009 23:45 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:37 racps wrote:
On March 23 2009 23:16 motbob wrote:
On March 23 2009 23:08 racps wrote:
On March 23 2009 23:00 motbob wrote:
Just so you guys know, there is a LOT of stigma against self-promotion on TL. And this isn't limited to newcomers by any means. Recently, a really popular and accomplished member of the community named Tasteless posted an OP with a link to a blog somewhere else. The thread was closed, with the mod saying "TL is not your personal advertising site" or something like that.

So ya, it's not just you. Any of your own material that you link to pretty much has to be relevant to the discussion at hand.


I have a question then; well, two, actually:

The rules when you log in only speak about spamming not self-promotion - is there a difference?
What's the general view of the community here on klaz's marketing coup?

R


Well I don't know what the written rule about spamming / self promotion is... but I definitely know the unwritten rule

But hot_bid's and klaz's links to their books on this thread con't count as self-promotion? R

hot_bid's "book" is a joke. It's a compilation of forum posts by a notorious hacker.

And obviously Klazart posting his book is very relevant to this thread.

Hey now, Nicholas T. Shadow worked for years refining those strategies, you don't call someone's life work "a joke" without good reason. Cartography and tan-olive skin are skills that one does not simply pick up in a day.

Regardless, the minds behind "Shadow Rush" have decided it's too harmful to the site and have taken it down at Klazart's request. Not sure if it'll really keep his book from deletion, but every little bit helps amirite?

I feel bad for all the people that were unable to read "Shadow Rush", especially the 10,000 word third chapter titled "500 of my posts in a row".
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 23 2009 15:09 GMT
#472
On March 23 2009 23:57 racps wrote:
By implication, K's relevant posting of his link to his book on authonomy makes any other link to authonomy also relevant.

The thread is about Klazart's book. That's why when he linked to it, it was relevant.

If your logic is correct, it would mean that the following example is also true: Let's say there is a thread on Team Liquid about the 2008 election. If I link a story that is on CNN.com that deals with the election, then you have the right to post any story on CNN.com that you wish, no matter how far away from the subject matter.

Clearly, the above example is laughably false. So, too, is your logic faulty.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
March 23 2009 15:12 GMT
#473
On March 23 2009 23:59 rei wrote:
correct me if i'm wrong, isn't klaz the first to started pulling korean videos do english comment on them and then post them on youtube, it was because of that influence motrap, digity, cholera followed. Before klaz came along i was only watching Jon747's korean version.

You are wrong hahahaha
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 15:30:20
March 23 2009 15:24 GMT
#474
On March 24 2009 00:12 Chill wrote:

You are wrong hahahaha


Correct? I want to seen some evidence in how wrong I am
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
racps
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom12 Posts
March 23 2009 15:35 GMT
#475
On March 24 2009 00:09 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:57 racps wrote:
By implication, K's relevant posting of his link to his book on authonomy makes any other link to authonomy also relevant.

The thread is about Klazart's book. That's why when he linked to it, it was relevant.

If your logic is correct, it would mean that the following example is also true: Let's say there is a thread on Team Liquid about the 2008 election. If I link a story that is on CNN.com that deals with the election, then you have the right to post any story on CNN.com that you wish, no matter how far away from the subject matter.

Clearly, the above example is laughably false. So, too, is your logic faulty.

Actually, I don't think my logic is faulty. If we take the election thread example, and someone wanted to illustrate misrepresentation by cnn of the election by giving an example of another way in which cnn had misrepresented a different story, that would be acceptable.

If no deviations from the total core of a thread are allowed, then comments about k's commentaries and links to them or links to k's commentaries or off-thread comments on those commentaries are similarly not allowed.

R
I come in peace
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
March 23 2009 15:39 GMT
#476
On March 24 2009 00:35 racps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2009 00:09 motbob wrote:
On March 23 2009 23:57 racps wrote:
By implication, K's relevant posting of his link to his book on authonomy makes any other link to authonomy also relevant.

The thread is about Klazart's book. That's why when he linked to it, it was relevant.

If your logic is correct, it would mean that the following example is also true: Let's say there is a thread on Team Liquid about the 2008 election. If I link a story that is on CNN.com that deals with the election, then you have the right to post any story on CNN.com that you wish, no matter how far away from the subject matter.

Clearly, the above example is laughably false. So, too, is your logic faulty.

Actually, I don't think my logic is faulty. If we take the election thread example, and someone wanted to illustrate misrepresentation by cnn of the election by giving an example of another way in which cnn had misrepresented a different story, that would be acceptable.

If no deviations from the total core of a thread are allowed, then comments about k's commentaries and links to them or links to k's commentaries or off-thread comments on those commentaries are similarly not allowed.

R

There's no need to sign your posts, your username is at the top of the post.

-Hot_Bid
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
March 23 2009 15:41 GMT
#477
On March 23 2009 21:21 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 20:59 Klaz wrote:
Personally, as far as commentary goes,

I really enjoyed Chill and Co's commentary on F91 vs Idra. Much fun!

If this is meant to be a burn, my respect for Klazart just went way, way up.

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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
March 23 2009 15:42 GMT
#478
On March 24 2009 00:24 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2009 00:12 Chill wrote:

You are wrong hahahaha


Correct? I want to seen some evidence in how wrong I am

Well the first one that was notable on youtube was Superiorwolf who was later overshadowed by Klaz because he was able to produce more commentaries and had much more enthusiasm which people really liked. He was probably the one that got the ball rolling really.
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Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
March 23 2009 15:43 GMT
#479
On March 24 2009 00:12 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:59 rei wrote:
correct me if i'm wrong, isn't klaz the first to started pulling korean videos do english comment on them and then post them on youtube, it was because of that influence motrap, digity, cholera followed. Before klaz came along i was only watching Jon747's korean version.

You are wrong hahahaha


He might not have been the first one but he defenetly is the most succesfull one, hes getting alot of views on his commentated videos and is the reason alot of people including me got into starcraft.

I wanna know why everyone seems to dislike Klaz, i mean hes contributed alot to sc and the esports scene. Why do people seem to have some kind of beef with him?
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
March 23 2009 15:47 GMT
#480
Can people stop arguing about whether they like Klazart's commentary or not?

This thread is to discuss his book and authonomy.com, please stay on topic. If we head down the "why do people hate Klaz?" road, the result will be lots of bans and closings. Let's just say people have a lot of different opinions on which commentators are good and leave it at that.

Consider this an official warning, 2 day temp bans for people that keep bringing this up.
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