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Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
March 23 2009 13:16 GMT
#441
Where can I get that Wallpaper?
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
achap54
Profile Joined March 2009
United States49 Posts
March 23 2009 13:25 GMT
#442
Hey

I know it's fun, but I don't think there is any point giving those guys more reasons to hate "gamers." But if you really want to spam, please head over to the forums so I can read the critique being posted on the book itself.

P.s. If anyone feels like voting for me that would be great. Read the 4 chapters I put up and make up your own mind.



Is self-promotion prohibited by TL?
This too shall pass
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
March 23 2009 13:25 GMT
#443
On March 23 2009 21:50 racps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 21:48 inlagdsil wrote:
On March 23 2009 21:33 CDRdude wrote:
@racps: I'm really glad that you're coming over here to welcome us to your community....but I couldn't help but notice that you spent half of your post plugging your books . In seriousness, congratulations on your written works so far, best of luck and all that, but I've never been a big fan of transparent plugs. There are too many classics out there that I still haven't read.

I've been poking my head around authonomy for a few hours and noticed that this structure of post is the norm there. Most book comments end with plugging their own book. Basically racps is just posting here like he would on authonomy, so we shouldn't get riled up about it. However, racps you should know that this kind of self-promotion is prohibited in the rules of TL.net

Then I will edit accordingly. R

Thank you. Oh, and welcome to TL.net!
You'll find that this site is constantly active and many interesting threads come up.
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
March 23 2009 13:27 GMT
#444
On March 23 2009 22:25 achap54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Hey

I know it's fun, but I don't think there is any point giving those guys more reasons to hate "gamers." But if you really want to spam, please head over to the forums so I can read the critique being posted on the book itself.

P.s. If anyone feels like voting for me that would be great. Read the 4 chapters I put up and make up your own mind.



Is self-promotion prohibited by TL?

Within reason. Creating an account and immediately trying to profit from the TL user base is prohibited. An example of reasonable self-promotion is glider's videos.
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
March 23 2009 13:32 GMT
#445
I'm disappointed to see the sc community being so closed-minded about newcomers, Klaz's fans may not know the difference between a 9 and a 12 pool (note: most of them do), but don't forget that everyone started out that way once.

Klaz is doing you all a favor in helping this 10 years old game survive outside of Korea, whether you like and admit it or not.

On March 23 2009 21:21 racps wrote:(...) and I severely dislike conflict at any level, because conflict causes wars, and wars are unnecessary.
(Since you're open to flame
L-O-L (laughing out loud) man, you have a long road ahead to become a writer, first get down the basics of life, go around with a notepad if that helps :D
BW fighting!
Ivs
Profile Joined January 2008
Australia139 Posts
March 23 2009 13:41 GMT
#446
Have to say, there are quite a few bitter and hypocritical people in authonomy, who suddenly got exposed from their little realms and cannot accept that there are always people out there who are better at things.

Endless entertainment for lurking when at work (and a forum like that is usually not blocked too!)
achap54
Profile Joined March 2009
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 13:58:09
March 23 2009 13:41 GMT
#447
On March 22 2009 15:01 Tom Phoenix wrote:
Well, to be fair, Klazart did not break any rules by doing what he did. The rules actually support the involvement of the author`s readership. But yes, the administrators probably never anticipated anything like this.

The premise of the book is actually quite interesting, since it touches upon the sensitive issue of conflict between India and Pakistan. So it might have potential.

While I am a fan of Klazart`s commentaries and will register and read what he has posted, I am only going to vote for his book if I genuinly will consider it good. As a prospective writer, I consider it my duty to evaluate Klazart`s work based on the quality of the work itself and not on his commentating reputation.


Tom,

Good luck with your writing. When you're ready, please post on Authonomy. You'll have to put up at least 10,000 words (most put up closer to 20,000 words to avoid being bumped when editing). Then join the Authonomy forums and introduce yourself. People who are interested in what you've written will read and constructively comment on your posted material.

Authonomy is set up so that you can easily edit your material. Thus, your story develops over time. It's a cool way to workshop new work.

When you post material on Authonomy, please feel free to message me (CarolinaAl on Authonomy). I'll give it a read and write a critique on it.

Looking forward to seeing you over there.

Al
This too shall pass
achap54
Profile Joined March 2009
United States49 Posts
March 23 2009 13:56 GMT
#448
On March 22 2009 15:55 D10 wrote:
It was nice to know about this site tho. I'm planning on writing as well, wanna gimme some tips, klaz ?


Hi D10,

We'd love to have you post something at Authonomy, D10.

Al (CarolinaAl on Authonomy)


This too shall pass
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 23 2009 14:00 GMT
#449
Just so you guys know, there is a LOT of stigma against self-promotion on TL. And this isn't limited to newcomers by any means. Recently, a really popular and accomplished member of the community named Tasteless posted an OP with a link to a blog somewhere else. The thread was closed, with the mod saying "TL is not your personal advertising site" or something like that.

So ya, it's not just you. Any of your own material that you link to pretty much has to be relevant to the discussion at hand.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
racps
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom12 Posts
March 23 2009 14:05 GMT
#450
On March 23 2009 22:32 538 wrote:
I'm disappointed to see the sc community being so closed-minded about newcomers, Klaz's fans may not know the difference between a 9 and a 12 pool (note: most of them do), but don't forget that everyone started out that way once.

Klaz is doing you all a favor in helping this 10 years old game survive outside of Korea, whether you like and admit it or not.

Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 21:21 racps wrote:(...) and I severely dislike conflict at any level, because conflict causes wars, and wars are unnecessary.
(Since you're open to flame
L-O-L (laughing out loud) man, you have a long road ahead to become a writer, first get down the basics of life, go around with a notepad if that helps :D

Yeah, got loads of notebooks. Do you want me to transcribe them here? ;-)
It's a concious decision to be a pacifist. That's my basic of life.

R
I come in peace
racps
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom12 Posts
March 23 2009 14:08 GMT
#451
On March 23 2009 23:00 motbob wrote:
Just so you guys know, there is a LOT of stigma against self-promotion on TL. And this isn't limited to newcomers by any means. Recently, a really popular and accomplished member of the community named Tasteless posted an OP with a link to a blog somewhere else. The thread was closed, with the mod saying "TL is not your personal advertising site" or something like that.

So ya, it's not just you. Any of your own material that you link to pretty much has to be relevant to the discussion at hand.


I have a question then; well, two, actually:

The rules when you log in only speak about spamming not self-promotion - is there a difference?
What's the general view of the community here on klaz's marketing coup?

R

I come in peace
Ivs
Profile Joined January 2008
Australia139 Posts
March 23 2009 14:10 GMT
#452
On March 23 2009 23:08 racps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:00 motbob wrote:
Just so you guys know, there is a LOT of stigma against self-promotion on TL. And this isn't limited to newcomers by any means. Recently, a really popular and accomplished member of the community named Tasteless posted an OP with a link to a blog somewhere else. The thread was closed, with the mod saying "TL is not your personal advertising site" or something like that.

So ya, it's not just you. Any of your own material that you link to pretty much has to be relevant to the discussion at hand.


I have a question then; well, two, actually:

The rules when you log in only speak about spamming not self-promotion - is there a difference?
What's the general view of the community here on klaz's marketing coup?

R



I say, good on him for getting his word out. Shame on the backers who didn't actually read his stuff. A bit more tolerance all round would be nice, altho it IS the internet.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 23 2009 14:15 GMT
#453
On March 23 2009 23:08 racps wrote:
What's the general view of the community here on klaz's marketing coup?

This is the only thread about it, so the view of the community is all right here.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 23 2009 14:16 GMT
#454
On March 23 2009 23:08 racps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:00 motbob wrote:
Just so you guys know, there is a LOT of stigma against self-promotion on TL. And this isn't limited to newcomers by any means. Recently, a really popular and accomplished member of the community named Tasteless posted an OP with a link to a blog somewhere else. The thread was closed, with the mod saying "TL is not your personal advertising site" or something like that.

So ya, it's not just you. Any of your own material that you link to pretty much has to be relevant to the discussion at hand.


I have a question then; well, two, actually:

The rules when you log in only speak about spamming not self-promotion - is there a difference?
What's the general view of the community here on klaz's marketing coup?

R


Well I don't know what the written rule about spamming / self promotion is... but I definitely know the unwritten rule
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Klaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Ireland334 Posts
March 23 2009 14:17 GMT
#455
Well, the site is down for "updating", looks like they've decided to restore a back-up/delete my book.

Was fun while it lasted.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
March 23 2009 14:17 GMT
#456
On March 23 2009 23:05 racps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 22:32 538 wrote:
I'm disappointed to see the sc community being so closed-minded about newcomers, Klaz's fans may not know the difference between a 9 and a 12 pool (note: most of them do), but don't forget that everyone started out that way once.

Klaz is doing you all a favor in helping this 10 years old game survive outside of Korea, whether you like and admit it or not.

On March 23 2009 21:21 racps wrote:(...) and I severely dislike conflict at any level, because conflict causes wars, and wars are unnecessary.
(Since you're open to flame
L-O-L (laughing out loud) man, you have a long road ahead to become a writer, first get down the basics of life, go around with a notepad if that helps :D

Yeah, got loads of notebooks. Do you want me to transcribe them here? ;-)
It's a concious decision to be a pacifist. That's my basic of life.

R


By all means, please don't.
Obviously I wasnt critiquing your pacifism, but the fact that you managed to apply your ridicoulous generalization about conflicts of any level to this interforum debate, and you felt this was a real issue, and felt it was important to add! I suppose you don't dare having different opinions about anything in life, because that (erm... apparently) causes war. If so, my statement of "you have a long road ahead to become a writer" stands.
Can you make bread and butter without announcing "War is bad, okay?" :D

(All of this only applies if you're over... 14, otherwise you'll grow out of it, don't worry.)
BW fighting!
Klaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Ireland334 Posts
March 23 2009 14:19 GMT
#457
or maybe not... yet?
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 14:26:37
March 23 2009 14:22 GMT
#458
On March 23 2009 23:15 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:08 racps wrote:
What's the general view of the community here on klaz's marketing coup?

This is the only thread about it, so the view of the community is all right here.

But there is backstory, as well. Team Liquid and Klazart had a falling-out early last year about comments that TL staff posted about members of SC2GG, the site where Klazart posts his commentaries. There is only a little bit of bad blood left between the two sites but you should take that little bit into account when reading this thread.

I think generally the feeling is one of bemused neutrality. And also, it's not a "coup" that Klazart pulled, unless a coup can be accidental. If your site is designed so that an influx of internet fans can rush in and upvote a manuscript to success, then it's not a well-designed site.

EDIT: I had to lol at one of the comments Klazart got from a regular of the site: "First off, I hoped 'Lesser Sins' would be truly awful. Alas, it isn't. You have the makings of a good story here."

hahaha
ModeratorGood content always wins.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 23 2009 14:30 GMT
#459
I meant the only thread about Klazart's marketing, not the only thread about Klazart.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
racps
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom12 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 14:36:19
March 23 2009 14:35 GMT
#460
On March 23 2009 23:17 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 23:05 racps wrote:
On March 23 2009 22:32 538 wrote:
I'm disappointed to see the sc community being so closed-minded about newcomers, Klaz's fans may not know the difference between a 9 and a 12 pool (note: most of them do), but don't forget that everyone started out that way once.

Klaz is doing you all a favor in helping this 10 years old game survive outside of Korea, whether you like and admit it or not.

On March 23 2009 21:21 racps wrote:(...) and I severely dislike conflict at any level, because conflict causes wars, and wars are unnecessary.
(Since you're open to flame
L-O-L (laughing out loud) man, you have a long road ahead to become a writer, first get down the basics of life, go around with a notepad if that helps :D

Yeah, got loads of notebooks. Do you want me to transcribe them here? ;-)
It's a concious decision to be a pacifist. That's my basic of life.

R


By all means, please don't.
Obviously I wasnt critiquing your pacifism, but the fact that you managed to apply your ridicoulous generalization about conflicts of any level to this interforum debate, and you felt this was a real issue, and felt it was important to add! I suppose you don't dare having different opinions about anything in life, because that (erm... apparently) causes war. If so, my statement of "you have a long road ahead to become a writer" stands.
Can you make bread and butter without announcing "War is bad, okay?" :D

(All of this only applies if you're over... 14, otherwise you'll grow out of it, don't worry.)

I do disagree with lots of people, but disagreement isn't conflict, and certainly not violent conflict. R
I come in peace
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