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CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
January 16 2009 22:57 GMT
#41
On January 17 2009 07:19 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 07:09 Rekrul wrote:
is there any chance saddles is scy-x17? just a hunch


Where's the hunch coming from?


checked hotkeys? reps? the way he talks?
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4522 Posts
January 16 2009 23:06 GMT
#42
obbing games with this guy is so funny..he critiques players and strategies for doing stuff that is 100% correct and common nowadays using outdated logic and he will defend that outdated logic till the very end...very entertaining overall.
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 01:46:00
January 16 2009 23:16 GMT
#43
he is going to get B- sooner or later if he keeps playing non koreans. from his points of view people from D to C are just copy cats with good mechanic, and they can be taken out easily with his timing attacks.

The Proof:
I watched all his games in his first day back, in few of his tvps if he sees terran go one fact expo he bulldogs. I thought that was all he got until this one game where the guy whos a C terran managed to defend his bulldog with a good building placement block + scvs, and i thought to myself that would be it for him, but then i saw him spent half his shit taking down the Ebay blocking the choke and turrets covering the high ground and the choke. It turned out he had a backup plan, his DTs were on their way.

The guy have a good sense of timing and plays adaptive strategy in which he was able to beat C ranked mechanic. as he's trying to regain his own mechanic from the long break, he will only get better than C. he exploited all the mistakes he see, he played aggressive and and try to force mistakes. Shits he does make sense, he just doesn't have enough APM right now to execute his game plan due to his rust.
I guess he's just walking his talk right now, i bet he will start talking when he's B, whenever that will be, i give him a month at least.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
January 16 2009 23:20 GMT
#44
On January 17 2009 08:06 ret wrote:
obbing games with this guy is so funny..he critiques players and strategies for doing stuff that is 100% correct and common nowadays using outdated logic and he will defend that outdated logic till the very end...very entertaining overall.



example please? lol
Free Palestine
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 23:30:35
January 16 2009 23:27 GMT
#45
On January 17 2009 08:06 ret wrote:
obbing games with this guy is so funny..he critiques players and strategies for doing stuff that is 100% correct and common nowadays using outdated logic and he will defend that outdated logic till the very end...very entertaining overall.


I don't think logic can be outdated, information he has is outdated, but if the premise of his argument is valid and sound, his logic is good. I think he will come to realize how wrong he is as he plays the new strategies and adapt to them, he has already shown his ability to adapt vs the bisu build.
He claimed that Bisu build was not viable if the zerg knows every time that the toss is ganna canon fast expo. so the guy he was playing is tryign to prove him wrong. and they played a pvz in which saddles was the zerg, in the first game saddles made about 2.5 control gruops of lings with 12 drones and protoss made about 7 cannons behind buildings and probes. Saddles attacks and completely destroyed the protoss cannon wall in his second wave of lings.

Second game they played same match up again, this time with better building placement from the protoss which only leaves 1 tiny opening for his lings to run in, saddles adapted, he build like 8 lings, and proceeded to sunken up 3 gas and then making nothing but ultra/lings. and ya he won that game too
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
January 16 2009 23:31 GMT
#46
Mechanics can absolutely outdate logic.
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 16 2009 23:37 GMT
#47
with the same information i belief that there is only 1 logical conclusion, provide him with the correct information he will see his wrong ideas if he is a person able to think logically.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
January 16 2009 23:40 GMT
#48
He said FE as P is 100% loss. Nothing in game mechanics mechanics has changed to make that wrong. That's an example of being ignorant to what people tell you.
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 16 2009 23:46 GMT
#49
He said FE as P is 100% loss without the information about how the protoss can defend and adapt to many different zerg timing allins he is capable to preform.

Yes that is extreme ignorant, and arrogant, but in his play he has shown that he acknowledge his mistakes. Even he doesn't spell it out for me in words, his play speaks louder, but who knows, maybe i'm thinking too highly of him for all I know.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 16 2009 23:47 GMT
#50
hwaiting his post hurr.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 16 2009 23:52 GMT
#51
But the thing is protoss would sometimes FE back in his glory days too.
Hi.
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
January 16 2009 23:57 GMT
#52
On January 17 2009 08:46 rei wrote:
He said FE as P is 100% loss without the information about how the protoss can defend and adapt to many different zerg timing allins he is capable to preform.

Yes that is extreme ignorant, and arrogant, but in his play he has shown that he acknowledge his mistakes. Even he doesn't spell it out for me in words, his play speaks louder, but who knows, maybe i'm thinking too highly of him for all I know.


yes, you are.
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 17 2009 00:02 GMT
#53
reason?
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
January 17 2009 00:03 GMT
#54
On January 17 2009 08:46 rei wrote:
He said FE as P is 100% loss without the information about how the protoss can defend and adapt to many different zerg timing allins he is capable to preform.

Yes that is extreme ignorant, and arrogant, but in his play he has shown that he acknowledge his mistakes. Even he doesn't spell it out for me in words, his play speaks louder, but who knows, maybe i'm thinking too highly of him for all I know.

Are you in love or something? o_O Sounds like you found finally purpose in life...
I admit the trainbash is a little onesided and not really funny anymore - but at least take off the pink glasses. The way you try to shift everything until it somehow fits into your deranged little world makes me wanna puke.
No matter what you're gonna say you can't possibly fix what he already said.
Sooner or later he'll hit the wall where old strats won't work anymore because he's gonna face people who know how to counter them - and are well capable doing so.
He even might get to b- sometime or who knows... but it aint gonna prove nothing anymore.
HuK HuK HuK | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | There is death in the hane.
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 00:05:26
January 17 2009 00:04 GMT
#55
jesus fucking christ rei pull saddle's cock out of your mouth already.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 17 2009 00:07 GMT
#56
On January 17 2009 07:47 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 07:09 Rekrul wrote:
is there any chance saddles is scy-x17? just a hunch


Is this the same as nex-scy? If so, he was active in 2006.

I don't think they are the same person. Also, ScY is still active =/ He uses JF-Thunder on East IIRC
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 17 2009 00:10 GMT
#57
On January 17 2009 08:06 ret wrote:
obbing games with this guy is so funny..he critiques players and strategies for doing stuff that is 100% correct and common nowadays using outdated logic and he will defend that outdated logic till the very end...very entertaining overall.

lol.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
January 17 2009 00:10 GMT
#58
Guys just leave him alone, lol he WON'T get B and he knows it xDDDDDDDDd
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-17 00:32:11
January 17 2009 00:13 GMT
#59
How am I trying fixing what he said? i'm staying neutral in this matter, everything I said is backed with evidence and is sound in logic, how do you prove me wrong?

and ya the example i provided shown "he'll hit the wall where old strates won't work anymore because he's ganna face people who know how to counter them - and are well capable doing so" and it also shown that he is deviating from his original claim.

if he's ganna make it to B it will not be because of his old school, it will be because he adapted the new strategies and mechanics. and if you can get over yourself and read my words without pointing your e-p on my ass just because i am saying something you don't like to hear, you will actually see that I am saying is that saddles is admitting he's wrong with his plays,
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
January 17 2009 00:33 GMT
#60
On January 17 2009 08:46 rei wrote:
He said FE as P is 100% loss without the information about how the protoss can defend and adapt to many different zerg timing allins he is capable to preform.

Yes that is extreme ignorant, and arrogant, but in his play he has shown that he acknowledge his mistakes. Even he doesn't spell it out for me in words, his play speaks louder, but who knows, maybe i'm thinking too highly of him for all I know.

How about him coming and saying "I was ignorant. Sorry." That would speak louder than... well nothing?
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