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Do you consider PvZ imbalanced?

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SiarX
Profile Joined December 2021
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-21 21:18:49
February 21 2026 20:07 GMT
#1
Do you think zerg has significant advantage at early stage (lack of reliable protoss scouting, deadly hydra busts) and overall better chance of victory? Or it is an issue only at the very top level? Or not issue at all?


Poll: Is PvZ imbalanced in favor of zerg?

Definitely (29)
 
40%

Maybe only a bit (17)
 
24%

Not at all (9)
 
13%

It is zerg who suffers from protoss! (17)
 
24%

72 total votes

Your vote: Is PvZ imbalanced in favor of zerg?

(Vote): Definitely
(Vote): Maybe only a bit
(Vote): Not at all
(Vote): It is zerg who suffers from protoss!


WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3444 Posts
February 21 2026 21:05 GMT
#2
Suggest you add a poll
Horang2 fan
SiarX
Profile Joined December 2021
131 Posts
February 21 2026 21:48 GMT
#3
On February 22 2026 06:05 WGT-Baal wrote:
Suggest you add a poll



right, I added
Kanzzer
Profile Joined October 2025
49 Posts
February 22 2026 05:30 GMT
#4
You've been posting about low-hanging fruit subjects across TL and reddit for more than a year now, without seemingly acknowledging numerous educative info provided by the comments in those threads when starting a new one.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13305 Posts
February 22 2026 05:53 GMT
#5
I think skill matters most in the matchup. But that Zergs also have a slight advantage in a matchup between two equally skilled players.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10695 Posts
February 22 2026 06:12 GMT
#6
I don't think this is going to yield much positive results lol
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary333 Posts
February 22 2026 08:37 GMT
#7
The real question in this pool

- ''Definitely'' How many protoss remaining in foreign scene

- ''Maybe only a bit'' How many protoss inactive or not even play but thinks this.

- ''Not at all'' Probably some terran player.

- ''It is zerg who suffers from protoss'' How many zergs remaining in foreign scene.
:D
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
135 Posts
February 22 2026 09:28 GMT
#8
D rank players will choose option 4
C rank players will choose option 3
B rank players will choose option 2
S rank players will choose option 1
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6811 Posts
February 22 2026 10:46 GMT
#9
Why is this thread still open ? this is against ToS.

Also How long we gonna give the pass to Siarx with his troll threads ?
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria379 Posts
February 22 2026 11:06 GMT
#10
OP guaranteed to be a cerebrate.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1120 Posts
February 22 2026 12:43 GMT
#11
On February 22 2026 18:28 SCRVN wrote:
D rank players will choose option 4
C rank players will choose option 3
B rank players will choose option 2
S rank players will choose option 1

oh weird I picked 2 but am not B.
I think the MU is fine as is, but is also tad zerg favored. More so the map design causing the zerg leaning bias. We have had plenty maps were zerg had definitive disadvantage.
JDON MY SOUL!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13305 Posts
February 23 2026 02:00 GMT
#12
I think there may be a bigger issue with TvP than PvZ atm.

What are the current records of Snow, Best, Bisu and Mini vs Terran? Seems a very hard matchup to win in the age of the speed shuttle.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines408 Posts
February 23 2026 02:12 GMT
#13
On February 22 2026 14:30 Kanzzer wrote:
You've been posting about low-hanging fruit subjects across TL and reddit for more than a year now, without seemingly acknowledging numerous educative info provided by the comments in those threads when starting a new one.


Are you mistaking him for SCRVN lmao
Yuru Yuri best anime
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines408 Posts
February 23 2026 02:17 GMT
#14
Isn't the problem with PvZ is that zerg pressures toss way too hard in the early game? Especially in high level play zerg loves to pressure the natural with hydra busts or muta harass, forcing protoss to play defensively until they get templars. Even then they can barely keep up in terms of macro moreso once protoss realizes zerg is in hive tech and have like 9 hatches in like 4 - 5 expansions.

If protoss can somehow find a way to solve that early game pressure problem then the matchup would be much better.

...Is it time to bring out the dark archon strats?
Yuru Yuri best anime
Kanzzer
Profile Joined October 2025
49 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-23 02:47:28
February 23 2026 02:47 GMT
#15
On February 23 2026 11:12 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2026 14:30 Kanzzer wrote:
You've been posting about low-hanging fruit subjects across TL and reddit for more than a year now, without seemingly acknowledging numerous educative info provided by the comments in those threads when starting a new one.


Are you mistaking him for SCRVN lmao


Nope. This person starts the exact same types of threads on broodwar subreddit too.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8527 Posts
21 hours ago
#16
SiarX with another "good" thread

well... i vote "Maybe only a bit"....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1671 Posts
19 hours ago
#17
I choose option 5 "this thread is bs".
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey658 Posts
16 hours ago
#18
On February 22 2026 19:46 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Why is this thread still open ? this is against ToS.

Also How long we gonna give the pass to Siarx with his troll threads ?

It might be biased, but still let us rewind to see if its anchoring bias is predictive of the future;
• ASL 12 was a protoss title with Mini at the front,
• ASL 13 was a zerg upset with Larva as he beat Mini with 2 incredible timing builds,
• 14, 15 were T upsets and from 16 to 20, we basically established Z reign. However it is not just any reign, it was Soulkey macro zerg reign. In 20, as Soulkey lost, it became a free for all because Soma is not a specific type of player. He can play random builds just like Mini did to win at the start of this 8 long ASL run. Anybody can deliver as long as they can upset a random build player. It is not as hard as beating a consistent macro player like Soulkey. They had to wait until Soulkey slipped up in 20. On the other hand, anybody can upset a pro with an inconsistent streak on a random day.
Turrican
doktordingerdonger
Profile Joined October 2025
19 Posts
15 hours ago
#19
On February 23 2026 19:01 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2026 19:46 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Why is this thread still open ? this is against ToS.

Also How long we gonna give the pass to Siarx with his troll threads ?

It might be biased, but still let us rewind to see if its anchoring bias is predictive of the future;
• ASL 12 was a protoss title with Mini at the front,
• ASL 13 was a zerg upset with Larva as he beat Mini with 2 incredible timing builds,
• 14, 15 were T upsets and from 16 to 20, we basically established Z reign. However it is not just any reign, it was Soulkey macro zerg reign. In 20, as Soulkey lost, it became a free for all because Soma is not a specific type of player. He can play random builds just like Mini did to win at the start of this 8 long ASL run. Anybody can deliver as long as they can upset a random build player. It is not as hard as beating a consistent macro player like Soulkey. They had to wait until Soulkey slipped up in 20. On the other hand, anybody can upset a pro with an inconsistent streak on a random day.


40 more seasons and you may be able to get a sample size that is generally to be thought of as large enough to draw any conclusion, as then the t stat is close enough to the z stat.... Worse than that, you guys just look at recent ASLs. Nice sample guys.


I swear maybe you guys should stop using 'ASL winners' as a meaningful statistics, as it depends on the extreme end of the distribution, which can change drastically based on who is motivated enough to train hard. If Flash is motivated again, suddenly he wins all ASL. Same with Soulkey...or when Snow finally optimizes his builds.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50632 Posts
14 hours ago
#20
Yeah no, we are not doing these poll threads anymore.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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