Reps.Ru Victory Day present - Page 2
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Jealous
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Rus_Brain
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rararara
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On April 13 2021 01:48 Rus_Brain wrote: "Explain myself" to whom, dude? To an internet account, I don't know is a real man, a complex AI project, or a plain bot? Remarkably, accounts above whose owners I have the honor to know never asked for such as you do. You may wish to come up to some offline event for explanation and compensation. Until then no debate well bro, maybe that's exactly the point. You're a big figure in the scene and what you are doing for BW is really great, so maybe nobody wants to get in trouble with you. But what you're doing here doesn't belong to BW and it's sickening to see the nationalistic supporters behind it. Posting ponies with US/Soviets hand in hand won't make the other pictures go away. | ||
Jealous
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Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1888 Posts
On April 13 2021 02:32 Jealous wrote: Watch out! TL's KGB is always out there Mod edit: Image meme removed User was warned for this post | ||
Jealous
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Lmfao. Absolutely ridiculous. | ||
QuadroX
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I see it does not look like you're trolling, so let me try to explain just for you. (might not worth it but whatever) As Jealous already said Victory Day is a day that commemorates the surrender of Nazi Germany. They were the offenders, killed lots of innocent people just for the sake of it, etc., etc.. Here's a wiki link for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Day_(9_May). During that "war time" Russia was Soviet Union indeed, so old pictures from that time have soviet flags and symbols. Victory like that against Nazi oppressors is a huge achievement not only for Russia but for the whole world. First man in space is also huge achievement. Dewalt winning against Koreans also big achievement and reason to be proud (in patriotic, not nationalistic sense). Imho also some sense of humour (which some people might not share) was implied connecting those things. That's all there is to it as I see it. There is ZERO implication that Soviet regime is great, or that Russian people loved every bit of it especially killing and torturing people in Gulags. This was in your own head probably because there's propaganda coming from many sources to polarize the world more and more. I also hate this "not offend anyone" and "cancel culture" that follows. People get offended all the time intentionally or not, and it's good for the Internet to be free and to remain free. Cheers! | ||
Aesop
Hungary11232 Posts
On April 13 2021 04:30 QuadroX wrote: rararara, I see it does not look like you're trolling, so let me try to explain just for you. (might not worth it but whatever) As Jealous already said Victory Day is a day that commemorates the surrender of Nazi Germany. They were the offenders, killed lots of innocent people just for the sake of it, etc., etc.. Here's a wiki link for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Day_(9_May). During that "war time" Russia was Soviet Union indeed, so old pictures from that time have soviet flags and symbols. Victory like that against Nazi oppressors is a huge achievement not only for Russia but for the whole world. First man in space is also huge achievement. Dewalt winning against Koreans also big achievement and reason to be proud (in patriotic, not nationalistic sense). Imho also some sense of humour (which some people might not share) was implied connecting those things. That's all there is to it as I see it. There is ZERO implication that Soviet regime is great, or that Russian people loved every bit of it especially killing and torturing people in Gulags. This was in your own head probably because there's propaganda coming from many sources to polarize the world more and more. I also hate this "not offend anyone" and "cancel culture" that follows. People get offended all the time intentionally or not, and it's good for the Internet to be free and to remain free. Cheers! I disagree with much of what you said. No political memorial or symbolism is harmless or without further implications. Anyway, everyone, please stick to the topic of the thread from now on, which is fresh replays. Right? | ||
Jealous
9974 Posts
https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread#1 Americans had Japanese in internment camps and refugee children in cages very recently, why are we allowing the USA flag and national symbolism on this site? https://tl.net/forum/games/508938-sid-meiers-civilization-vi Egyptians had slaves, why are we allowing their Pyramids to be shown on this site? https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/571783-asl11-ro24-preview-pt-3contenders-and-streamers Zerg seek to destroy our galaxy, why do we allow their hallmark Hydralisk on this site? | ||
rararara
115 Posts
If somebody released a replay-pack of a US player and connected that to Independence Day, along with posting pictures of soldiers with guns, it would be equally off-topic (BW being the real topic) and politically influenced. Don't mix this stuff up, it's not okay. This whole post should be closed and if OP wants to make his intenions clear he should post the replays without any political infliction (e.g. memorial dates, nationalistic symbols and war pictures). As I stated I think the Gagarin-hangup is ok and humorous, but the WW2-connotation isn't. If you want to show patriotism, there are surely many other ways that show respect and are peaceful. This is not about "cancel-culture" - just keep ideologies and politics out of stuff where they don't belong. Where's the problem? You know how all autocracies start? Just like this, innocently claiming there's nothing wrong with putting a flag to some event... now Brain just put in 1$K extra on BSL... showing his dedication, but also his power in the BW-scene... this should not be connected to any ideologies, it's very dangerous stuff. He should know it and everybody else, too. @Jealous: Those arguments are so dumb and misleading... if you've ever seen a Hydralisk IRL call me or 911... | ||
Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1888 Posts
@Jealous: if you've ever seen a Hydralisk IRL either fucking run, or better hug your lovely wife... | ||
rararara
115 Posts
I'm not attacking you as an organizer, you are free to make as many great events as you like and there's no problem if you're the only one doing it. | ||
Jealous
9974 Posts
On April 13 2021 07:06 rararara wrote: You're trying to play it down. Maybe you're not conscious, but your political ideology has no place and has to go. I'm not attacking you as an organizer, you are free to make as many great events as you like and there's no problem if you're the only one doing it. Poll: This initiative Is great and rarara's complaints are hilarious and no one cares. (22) Is offensive/problematic and rarara's complaints are well-founded. (14) 36 total votes Your vote: This initiative (Vote): Is offensive/problematic and rarara's complaints are well-founded. | ||
rararara
115 Posts
This is not about "the initiative is great" or not... because that's BW and it has nothing to do with politics. Making a poll in this thread will not show or lead to anything, because a) anybody who is half-way intelligent will not participate. b) it's not representative or monitored. If you're installing this for entertainment purposes or further trying to water down the actual point, good luck. Anybody with a brain (pun intended), will make their thoughts based off this incident. Hope Rus_Brain can overcome this critical spot and combine his top-level events and commitments with a more open mind and not mixing up BW with politics and ideologies. | ||
Jealous
9974 Posts
On April 13 2021 07:51 rararara wrote: @Jealous: you are mixing points over and over. This is not about "the initiative is great" or not... because that's BW and it has nothing to do with politics. Making a poll in this thread will not show or lead to anything, because a) anybody who is half-way intelligent will not participate. b) it's not representative or monitored. If you're installing this for entertainment purposes or further trying to water down the actual point, good luck. Anybody with a brain (pun intended), will make their thoughts based off this incident. Hope Rus_Brain can overcome this critical spot and combine his top-level events and commitments with a more open mind, which includes people outside of preconceived ideologies. Hope Rus_Brain continues to run events in such a way that completely ignores the solitary and hyperbolic opinion of a person whose opinion doesn't matter whatsoever, and runs events in the way that he enjoys. Anyone who doesn't like it can find the door ^^; | ||
rararara
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Jealous
9974 Posts
On April 13 2021 07:58 rararara wrote: Yup, keep attacking and defaming, that'll do it. Don't really have to do anything because this has been an exercise in futility on your part from the beginning. That's why I'm just enjoying the journey. | ||
rararara
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Enjoy! | ||
Mqqrs
7 Posts
Thanks for releasing them | ||
Jealous
9974 Posts
On April 13 2021 09:45 Mqqrs wrote: Any idea on when the replays will be released? Bruh... EDIT: 😂 | ||
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