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They walk? Booh! What are they effing infernos from WC3? Jeez... and the way they attack... what's up with this one handed palm kungfu strike? Totoally half hearted.
I want archon to HOVER, not walk
I want Psionic energy and blue flame to gush out of the archon's eyes like what they do in SC1
I want archon to strike as he really mean it, reaching out with both hands kamehameha style.
Below is the current archon face, check out those gushing flames from the eyes! OMG bad ass!
Below is how I want the archon's handshape to be when he's attacking:
Like he really MEAN it! All out and rageful, clawed around a sphere of energy!
An extra thought:
Wouldn't it be extremely cool if archon's attack isn't just lightning looking but it actually concentrates some of the flames around him and push those blue matters out? Like you are projecting part of your own psionic energy forcefully upon your enemies.
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I want an archon to walk into enemies and melt them.
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On July 20 2007 00:07 MuShu wrote:
I want an archon to walk into enemies and melt them.
No no wtf they have HAVE LEGS now... that's just stupid...
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United States43796 Posts
I'd rather no form at all. Just a badass ball of psionic energy. I may stretch to a pair of glowing eyes but there wouldn't be any corporeal eyes there, just glowingness.
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United States7166 Posts
i also prefered the gliding/hovering archons too and their crazy huge arms and the motion they have while attacking looks nice
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On July 20 2007 00:13 Zelniq wrote:
i actually prefered the gliding/hovering archons too and their crazy huge arms and the motion they have while attacking looks nice
Yeah totoally! When you have 12 of them you KNOW those ultras gonna fry.
Ooooooooooh yeah!
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On July 20 2007 00:07 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2007 00:07 MuShu wrote:
I want an archon to walk into enemies and melt them. No no wtf they have HAVE LEGS now... that's just stupid...
Yea, I meant float rofl. Yea, float over a battlecow and melt it keke
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Germany1306 Posts
Yea was the first thing I noticed .. please remove the legs.
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Why are you complaining so much? They look absolutely okay in comparison with many other new units.
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On July 20 2007 00:18 Shauni wrote:
Why are you complaining so much? They look absolutely okay in comparison with many other new units.
Because blizzard will change it for the better if we are discussing it here. Blizz want all the inputs and feedbacks it can get, and we're doing just that.
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Canada7170 Posts
Doesn't make logistical sense, along with the shadow.
I will forgive Blizz if the archon says "You're dead mothaf'cka" or something though.
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the plagiarism in sc2 is unfuckingbelievable.
also when i looked at the "NEW TERRAN NEWS photos" i went lol 'n lol 'n so on
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yeah archons shouldn't have shadows if they're masses of light and psi energy
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United States12240 Posts
AIRCHON JORDAN UH YAY YAYEEEEE
What are you babbling about now evan, the Archon looks great =[
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I might be wrong on this, but I think twilight archons are the result of a dark templar and a high templar merging. It talks about the new ability to merge them together in the description. Now what I want to know is, what is the difference between a twilight archon and a regular archon besides the name?
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United States12240 Posts
On July 20 2007 00:39 Blind wrote:
I might be wrong on this, but I think twilight archons are the result of a dark templar and a high templar merging. It talks about the new ability to merge them together in the description. Now what I want to know is, what is the difference between a twilight archon and a regular archon besides the name?
Any two templar, high or dark (or both), makes the Twilight Archon.
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twilight archons walk
archons don't
its simple really, HTs float therefore archons float
DTs walk, there for twilight archons walk
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On July 20 2007 00:43 caution.slip wrote:
twilight archons walk
archons don't
its simple really, HTs float therefore archons float
DTs walk, there for twilight archons walk
Lol silly argument... Dark Archon walk by your logic then. :p
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they do, they just have really small feet and SC's graphical limitations couldn't display them
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On July 20 2007 00:06 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I want this.
I want that.
ME WANT!
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Is Blizzard recycling WC3 units?
The description of the Twilight Archon reafirms the fact that this is an energy entity so the art concept should reflect it.
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On July 20 2007 00:43 caution.slip wrote:
twilight archons walk
archons don't
its simple really, HTs float therefore archons float
DTs walk, there for twilight archons walk First of all, don't dark archons float?
Second, by your logic, if twilight archons walk, then they are made of 2 dark templars? But currently they make a dark archon, so what happened there? Not so simple.
The reason I was assuming it was a dark templar/high templar combination is because the twilight archon is a "new" unit, so it would presumably need a new combination as well.
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On July 20 2007 01:04 oshibori_probe wrote:
no shit duh? if we don't want blizz go bankrupt
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I don't want the new units to look the same as they did in brood war, why do you guys?
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In BW Archons float. They don't have small invisible legs. Since Archons don't trigger spider mines they have no weight on ground therefore they float. Why would a floating creature need legs? To kick marines in the balls? They have a way more powerful attack.
In the first flash on the SC2 website they look like 2 ugly fats while walking and only because of the legs. Basically the unit looks fine but it needs some minor adjustments (no legs and two hand sphere ball attack).
Edit: On July 20 2007 01:29 Evilmonkey. wrote:
I don't want the new units to look the same as they did in brood war, why do you guys?
A unit should look as cool as possible. It is my opinion (and not only mine) that the legs make it really uncool.
The Col is the same. I don't like the pointy-egg shape of the top part. I believe a more sphere like shape (resembling the SC alpha Science Vessel with legs)would be better.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
wow i never noticed in BW that archons dont have shadows omgLOL
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On July 20 2007 01:50 alffla wrote:
wow i never noticed in BW that archons dont have shadows omgLOL
Uhh... nothing had shadows in bw :p
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On July 20 2007 01:29 Evilmonkey. wrote:
I don't want the new units to look the same as they did in brood war, why do you guys?
It's not about same or different, it's about how good it looks. New archon imo looks worse than old archon, and archon should be with no legs. IMO such attributes bring out the characters of a true archon. And thus I want such attributes restored.
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actaly archons is my favorite unit .
I want to be the same in sc2
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MURICA15980 Posts
Exactly, the archons should be growling and be blasting their enemies with a THICK powerful attack instead of a sissy one-handed lightning strike.
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Archons have legs. They're thin and bent at the knees so they still float.
Edit: and I'm pretty sure the foot looking things on the Twilight Archon are actually knee armor band kinda things... not boots.
Edit Edit: Blizzard even changed the Twilight energy cloud graphic to make it more energy-cloudy. Compare the update on the official site to the old video in which they were introduced.
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On July 20 2007 00:06 evanthebouncy! wrote:I can live with the feet, but the head should defently be more like SC1. Agree with evanthebouncy, the attack is too weak. It should be more Energy at display here.. somthing real badass flame & lightning shit! I'm sure they will tweak the Twilight Archon around a bit more.. = ) They walk? Booh! What are they effing infernos from WC3? Jeez... and the way they attack... what's up with this one handed palm kungfu strike? Totoally half hearted. I want archon to HOVER, not walk I want Psionic energy and blue flame to gush out of the archon's eyes like what they do in SC1 I want archon to strike as he really mean it, reaching out with both hands kamehameha style. Below is the current archon face, check out those gushing flames from the eyes! OMG bad ass! Below is how I want the archon's handshape to be when he's attacking: Like he really MEAN it! All out and rageful, clawed around a sphere of energy!An extra thought: Wouldn't it be extremely cool if archon's attack isn't just lightning looking but it actually concentrates some of the flames around him and push those blue matters out? Like you are projecting part of your own psionic energy forcefully upon your enemies.
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meh blizz is totally gonna fuck this up :[
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MURICA15980 Posts
I think maybe one reason Archons attack like this might be because if they attacked the old way, all the new flashy graphics will make it hard to see what is going on the battle.
Still, I'm sure there can be a happy medium...
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While this thread is still on the list, does anyone else agree that they really do use a continuous laser attack? No joke, I was discussing this with Nvyone I think when the first video of the unit was released.
Most of the footage I've found has them killing marines, which makes it hard to determine if the attack lasts longer than a burst of some sort, but there is one clip in which it attacks a bunker, and continues to laser at it for some time.
Could be changed though, many things are...
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Why would the protoss sacrifice two precious templars if the archon is going to half-ass it with one hand? It should have a presence among other units, thus it should float.
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It's ok, if it has LAZERRRZZZ, PEW-PEW.
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This new archon sucks ass. Between this, the siege tank, the dt, my initial euphoria for SC2 has reverted back more to preferring an expansion on the existing BW engine.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On July 20 2007 02:08 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2007 01:50 alffla wrote:
wow i never noticed in BW that archons dont have shadows omgLOL Uhh... nothing had shadows in bw :p
thats false
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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the animation isn't too bad, but they seem like robots with those legs. they just look really mechanical to me, and they shouldn't... floating is the way to go for this unit. as for how they attack, i think that could use some tweaking to make it look more badass.
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at least they made the ballshape more distinct than in the preview, but I agree the legs shouldn't show. Hell, you should hardly see the physical body at all, they're supposed to be made up mostly of energy anyway 
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On July 20 2007 03:15 alffla wrote:SHADOWS BITCH :D
OMG!
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