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On March 04 2020 12:30 Nebuchad wrote:
On top of these valid points, he also has no clear path to win states that Hillary lost, and his mental state is obviously deteriorating, he frequently forgets words or produces incoherent sentences. That being said I'm sure Trump and the GOP will follow the lead of the liberal media and absolutely never mention that in the general, so you could be in the clear there.
lmao they are already on it. Here's Trump tweeting fox news compilation of Biden being Biden.
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Yea Biden has a much more positive public image than Clinton did.
People really, really hated Clinton. Biden looks more like an old fool.
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Dropping by, Warren is performing according to poll, Bloomber is crashing and Biden is maybe performing above average?
Still fairly ok for Sander with TX and Warren getting over 15% in a bunch of state right?
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Pretty disappointing that biden is winning this many states right now.
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On March 04 2020 12:32 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Yea Biden has a much more positive public image than Clinton did.
People really, really hated Clinton. Biden looks more like an old fool.
His net favorables are only a few points higher than Clinton at this point in 2016, still net negative though. Voters are bad pundits and they think Biden can win like they thought Hillary surely would.
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Biden is doing significantly better than Clinton did in 2016 so far. I feel like the primary of 2016 made a lot of Clinton's weaknesses obvious but she was so powerful it didn't matter.
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On March 04 2020 12:40 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2020 12:32 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Yea Biden has a much more positive public image than Clinton did.
People really, really hated Clinton. Biden looks more like an old fool. Old fools can be loveable at least. I mean it is not like Trump is young or appears smart when he talks, and he won. It is not like what ever Trump is saying about Biden right now he wouldn't have had something lined up if Sanders won. Worry about who Trump will insult the most is pointless he will do it to anyone he sees as a adversary. Hell he did it within his own party over and over again. It is strange to think he will some how do it better to Biden than to Sanders.
Biden will probably do worse because he has clearly noticeable cognitive decline related to his aging, whereas Bernie either doesn't or his is much less apparent. This will make Biden look foolish and much worse at defending himself.
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Biden is going to be absolutely wrecked in the general and anyone who doesn't see that is dangerously blind. Like much worse then Hillary bad.
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On March 04 2020 12:48 Sermokala wrote:
Biden is going to be absolutely wrecked in the general and anyone who doesn't see that is dangerously blind. Like much worse then Hillary bad.
Biden has a better shot than Bernie does imo.
I don’t get all this Hillary wa unpopular talk
She beat both Bernie and Trump in a popular vote lol
Trumps campaign was extremely well run though and he won where he needed to.
Biden was Obama’s no 2. Obama was insanely popular iirc
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On March 04 2020 12:48 Sermokala wrote:
Biden is going to be absolutely wrecked in the general and anyone who doesn't see that is dangerously blind. Like much worse then Hillary bad.
Much worse than Hillary?
Highly, highly doubtful.
The vast majority of the country is so polarized they'll vote against the opposing party no matter who it is.
Biden is currently polling fairly well in several battleground states.
I think it's much more likely that we see a repeat of 2016, with low voter turnout and narrow Trump wins in swing states.
Biden has a better shot than Bernie does imo.
I don’t get all this Hillary wa unpopular talk
She beat both Bernie and Trump in a popular vote lol
Trumps campaign was extremely well run though and he won where he needed to.
Biden was Obama’s no 2. Obama was insanely popular iirc
Hillary was really unpopular. I think it was making the rounds back then that the only presidential candidate less popular than Clinton during an election was Trump himself.
People hated Clinton and voter turnout was very poor compared to the Obama elections.
Biden is also not Obama. Obama was an extremely young, smooth, charismatic, and highly intelligent individual. He was also the country's first non-white president. Biden is exactly none of those things.
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Hard to imagine Biden's rambling doing more damage than "you should vote for me because I'm a woman" did. He's also capable of shouting on stage which should allow him to hit Trump harder where he's weak, like gun laws.
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On March 04 2020 12:40 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2020 12:32 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Yea Biden has a much more positive public image than Clinton did.
People really, really hated Clinton. Biden looks more like an old fool. Old fools can be loveable at least. I mean it is not like Trump is young or appears smart when he talks, and he won. It is not like what ever Trump is saying about Biden right now he wouldn't have had something lined up if Sanders won. Worry about who Trump will insult the most is pointless he will do it to anyone he sees as a adversary. Hell he did it within his own party over and over again. It is strange to think he will some how do it better to Biden than to Sanders. Edit: Show nested quote +On March 04 2020 12:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
No one will argue Biden is a better candidate than Hillary and she lost to a less popular/favorable Trump. Biden will obviously get trounced if he gets the nomination. Show nested quote +On March 04 2020 12:38 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 04 2020 12:32 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Yea Biden has a much more positive public image than Clinton did.
People really, really hated Clinton. Biden looks more like an old fool. His net favorables are only a few points higher than Clinton at this point in 2016, still net negative though. Voters are bad pundits and they think Biden can win like they thought Hillary surely would. Look in a couple of minutes we have already moved you from NO ONE could think Biden to beat Trump to MILLIONS of them do. If we can change you mind that fast I'm sure he has a chance with others! 
I said "no one will argue Biden is a better candidate than Hillary", not "NO ONE could think Biden to beat Trump" do you not see the difference?
At best they argue other people will see him that way despite it not being true.
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AP calls Massachusetts for Biden.
Ouch. Brutal for both Bernie and Warren.
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On March 04 2020 12:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
AP calls Massachusetts for Biden.
Ouch. Brutal for both Bernie and Warren.
How does the delegate math works out?
Does Warren+Bernie have more than Biden?
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On March 04 2020 12:52 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2020 12:48 Sermokala wrote:
Biden is going to be absolutely wrecked in the general and anyone who doesn't see that is dangerously blind. Like much worse then Hillary bad. Much worse than Hillary? Highly, highly doubtful. The vast majority of the country is so polarized they'll vote against the opposing party no matter who it is. Biden is currently polling fairly well in several battleground states. I think it's much more likely that we see a repeat of 2016, with low voter turnout and narrow Trump wins in swing states. Show nested quote +Biden has a better shot than Bernie does imo.
I don’t get all this Hillary wa unpopular talk
She beat both Bernie and Trump in a popular vote lol
Trumps campaign was extremely well run though and he won where he needed to.
Biden was Obama’s no 2. Obama was insanely popular iirc Hillary was really unpopular. I think it was making the rounds back then that the only presidential candidate less popular than Clinton during an election was Trump himself. People hated Clinton and voter turnout was very poor compared to the Obama elections. Biden is also not Obama. Obama was an extremely young, smooth, charismatic, and highly intelligent individual. He was also the country's first non-white president. Biden is exactly none of those things.
Idk...I can’t bring myself to call someone who stomped populists like trump and Bernie in the popular vote as unpopular.
People who want Obama’s America back will vote Biden
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On March 04 2020 12:58 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2020 12:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
AP calls Massachusetts for Biden.
Ouch. Brutal for both Bernie and Warren. How does the delegate math works out? Does Warren+Bernie have more than Biden?
We don't really know yet, but Bernie had a significantly higher chance of winning Minnesota, Massachusetts, and Maine than Biden did, and he has already lost 2 of the 3 and is trailing in Maine.
Biden may only come out with a slim lead tonight, but the narrative is going to be devastating and Bernie's chances of going into the convention with a plurality are now very, very poor.
Texas is also still a toss-up. If Biden somehow wins Texas, this night is pretty much worst-case scenario for Bernie.
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“He’s making a lot of promises that take more than four years to accomplish.”
This, right here, is why I am absolutely convinced that modern democracies are doomed to failure. We are simply incapable of any large-scale ventures that would take more than a single election cycle to come to fruition any more.
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