Pay2Play SC2?

On May 20 2007 17:35 vGl-CoW wrote:
hahaha are you insane

On May 20 2007 17:28 jtan wrote:
wow I just realized theres like 60 threads in the sc2 already!

On May 20 2007 17:38 KodoU- wrote:

is who insane?

and i dont know, like i said if SC 2 ends up being P2P it could determine whether alot of people play it or not. but yes if we have to pay than "the blizz support would probably be better, and no hackers or bad patches"

But i have come to the conclusion that Blizz doesnt really care about customers anymore and what they want or dont want. my example
Diablo II
they have a ladder season thats supposed to roll like every 6 months? its been around for almost 3 years and its rolled over once.
Apparantly Blizzard is running low on its ability to give Customer satisfaction.

On May 20 2007 17:50 DrainX wrote:
Has there ever been a non MMO game that cost to play? You know MMOs have a monthly fee for a reason its not only the develepors being greedy (Although thats a factor too )

On May 20 2007 17:38 .kaz wrote:


Hell, it's about time.

On May 20 2007 17:52 Zironic wrote:


Halo 2 will have an optional subscription service when it comes out and so will Hellgate: London (FPS and Diablo clone respectively)

On May 20 2007 17:49 Fen wrote:
It would be very dangerous for blizz to make p2p. Because you dont play RTS games like you do with MMO's and RPG's. Some months youll play heaps, some months you wont play much at all. If you gotta pay money for a couple of games at the end of the month, people just arent going to be bothered and starcraft 2 will die.

Also, with wow your paying your monthly fee for a world that is interactive and can be played single player. In an RTS multiplayer environment you are relying on other players for your entertainment. Do you get a refund if your opponents are noobs?

On May 20 2007 18:15 Lemonwalrus wrote:

In SC, thus far, computer opponents have been very predictable and easy to beat, once you've played them enough times. I currently gain very little, if any enjoyment playing a computer opponent.

On May 20 2007 17:59 mahnini wrote:
Especially when there's hamachi around.

On May 20 2007 18:09 KodoU- wrote:
Fen, heres what i think

Play for 4 hours at the end of the month for that months payment, everyone you play with is newby. okay
play four games of sc2 at the end of the month for that months payment, everyone you play with is newby. okay again.

whats the difference?
you dont get your money back in WOW for not being active.


You dont rely on other people for your entertainment all the time on either of the games WOW or SC

Wow you go off and adventure on your own. Entertainment.
SC you can go play the campaigns, or make maps or some other shit. Entertainment.

Wow you play in a party to complete some random quest. Entertainment
SC you play an 8 person FFA or some random UMS game. Entertainment


the games are basically Split in possibility whether to entertain yourself or go play with other people

and one last thought in essance you said you have to play with other people. have you ever heard of a "Computer"
Just a quick question.

On May 20 2007 18:47 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Maybe I should just go to bed and stop f5ing the SC2 forum..

On May 20 2007 19:46 Tarte wrote:
Sc2 is already lame enough, having to pay every month for it would make this impossibly ridiculous.

On May 20 2007 19:46 Tarte wrote:
Sc2 is already lame enough, having to pay every month for it would make this impossibly ridiculous.

On May 20 2007 19:50 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:




Or let the anti-sc2 whiners

On May 20 2007 22:13 Excalibur_Z wrote:
You guys are looking at this the wrong way. There are two different kinds of pay-to-play. There's a monthly subscription like WoW, then there's an unlimited subscription for a one-time fee, like Kali.

I noticed this the day Starcraft II's website came up. Nowhere does it mention Battle.net is free in the press release. Nor in the FAQ. At first I was concerned that it would be pay-to-play, but now that doesn't seem to be a problem. I'm 100% convinced this will be the new plan for Battle.net:

- Out of the box, the game will cost about $50-60. For this, you get the single player campaign, the ability to play against the AI, the map editor, and LAN/Hamachi play. This is already what most games offer.

- For an extra $10-20, you can register an SC2 Battle.net account. This is for several reasons:

- This is primarily to deter hackers and pirates. If you are caught hacking in the new system (it's going to happen, the best they can do to fight it is proactive moderation) you are banned, and must pay again for a new account.

- As for pirates, generating CD-Keys is something that can be done for any game. Having to register an account is something that can't be circumvented. Repeat or grievous offenders may also have their CD-Key banned, forcing them to buy a new game. I see this as less realistic though.

- The new Battle.net will have additional features. Presumably this will include active hack scanning, a routed peer-to-peer system such as the one War3 uses, a tournament system a la War3, continuous ladders such as War3, possibly with the added benefit of cross-Ladder season-final tournaments.

Another, less likely scenario is that Battle.net will actually be split between general multiplayer and competitive multiplayer. This would mean that serious Ladder players would pay a registration fee and would gain access to Ladder-exclusive events and games. I don't see this happening though since that would deter novice players from attempting the Ladder and improving their skill.

In any case, it's not reasonable to ask for a monthly subscription for an RTS game. It's not feasible for the consumer or the developer. It's not going to happen, so relax.