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PissedOffEmo
Canada777 Posts
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draeger
United States3256 Posts
You have a few friends, try and rebuild those connections. You had a girlfriend for a year, which means that you have what it takes to meet people. You're in a slump right now that will improve. When you've hit rock bottom the only way to go is up, am I not correct? If you're chronically depressed, go seek professional help. That's why those people exist. Suicide is just the weak way out. There's a lot to live for and once you discover that again you'll realize how foolish your mindset is now. | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
 , I live in other end of the wet norway, close to Stavanger. If you wanna talk more PM and i give you my MSN | ||
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
I know it's selfish to kill myself, but I also don't know if it's actually the right thing to do. I'm having it so bad now it's hard to imagine. I don't know how to put words on it. Saying I'm seriously considering killing myself tomorrow morning should suffice, I guess. It's the easy way out, but right now the pain is nigh unbearable. I've tried hurting myself(not slitting my wrists, I'm not emo!  ) to make the physical pain override my mental pain but it doesn't work much. I've tried everything to get my thoughts away, but nothing helps, and I don't know WHAT to do. Getting a job, meeting new people, it's not the thing I can do. I mean I know it worked for a lot of you, but not me. All I really need is to feel important for someone who's not my parents.And vGI-CoW, I've tried turning my life around several times. Half a year back with my girlfriend who I hadn't met before, and both tiers of schools where no one in class knew me. It didn't work any of those times, people have always and always turned me down. And no, I'm not sure I'm strong enough to try once again. Edit: I'm trying to reply as fast as I can, thanks a LOT for your replies.. I haven't really found a solution to my situation yet but it actually helps reading your posts.. thanks again. | ||
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Cpt Obvious
Germany3073 Posts
Ethenielle, to make it clear: Nothing justifies to willingly end your life. All I tried to say was that I'm not thinking about killing myself no matter how hard life appears to be. I try to look at the bright side of things and make the best out of it. So why should you do it? So you think you are ugly? Guess what, I have acne too. If people judge you by your looks, they're not worth your attention, period. So you are lonely/sad, because your girlfriend dumped you? Guess what, you're not the first one ever to get dumped. You're gonna find another girlfriend sooner or later. Enjoy your freedom. So you think life sucks in general because you have no friends or no perspective for your future? Well, whose fault is that? Get off your lazy ass and do something about it. Go to college, get a job, whatever. It's not like you are some central african disabled, illiterate child who was a child soldier. Embrace what luck you had and still have. Thank God for giving you loving parents. I was not meaning to offend you in any way, and I truly feel you, for I myself have considered suicide a couple of times myself. There were occasions where the thought of my mother crying at my grave were about the only thing keeping me from doing it. Deal with it. It's going to get better soon. Just don't do it. Seriously. | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
some people have hard lives and deal with it just fine. some people have hard lives and it weighs down on them. the most important thing is that he makes it out of the depression, not that he learns how relatively easy his life is | ||
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Vi)Chris
United States700 Posts
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
You have shown that you are already better than many other people in this world. Hopefully, you can realize how important you are before deciding what to do with your life. | ||
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Lycaeus
United States1420 Posts
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Vi)Chris
United States700 Posts
Or maybe the Christians are right and you'll go to hell. | ||
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Cpt Obvious
Germany3073 Posts
On March 26 2007 10:23 Slithe wrote: You're obviously not worthless. You're worth a lot to your parents, and you can definitely be worth a lot to others as well. You've shown that you have a lot to offer already with your posts. You've shown courage by opening up to others, something that many people cannot do. You've shown love and caring by worrying for your parents' wellbeing. How can you say you are nothing when you are worth so much? You have shown that you are already better than many other people in this world. Hopefully, you can realize how important you are before deciding what to do with your life. Best post so far. It would be a pity to lose you. | ||
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Vi)Chris
United States700 Posts
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
My problem isn't material so to speak, it's more in my mind. I can live in a paper bag, I can eat shitty food all day, I can have one set of clothes, it doesn't matter at all! What matters to me is love. I've been picked on and stepped on my whole damn life and the only ones who truly care about me are my parents, and their love isn't something I have made, it's just natural. They can't help but love me. I want to be a person that SOMEBODY loves, but no one does. No one truly loves me(and I believed my girlfriend did - when she broke up she sort of triggered this whole thing). That's essentially my pain. And I don't want any attention. I'm not writing this because I'm emo, it's because I have no where else to go and I have this question, and I know there are very many intelligent people on this forum. I've been keeping my pain inside me for many, many years, but right now it's just breaking through, and I'm undecided whether I can take it anymore or not. Edit: and it's amazing so many replied so fast, it sort of makes me feel better even though I don't know any of you in real life. Thanks a lot for your replies, it really helps actually  | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On March 26 2007 10:22 Cpt Obvious wrote: Beyonder, my point was exactly what you told ME. There are situations worse than his. Ethenielle, to make it clear: Nothing justifies to willingly end your life. All I tried to say was that I'm not thinking about killing myself no matter how hard life appears to be. I try to look at the bright side of things and make the best out of it. So why should you do it? So you think you are ugly? Guess what, I have acne too. If people judge you by your looks, they're not worth your attention, period. So you are lonely/sad, because your girlfriend dumped you? Guess what, you're not the first one ever to get dumped. You're gonna find another girlfriend sooner or later. Enjoy your freedom. So you think life sucks in general because you have no friends or no perspective for your future? Well, whose fault is that? Get off your lazy ass and do something about it. Go to college, get a job, whatever. It's not like you are some central african disabled, illiterate child who was a child soldier. Embrace what luck you had and still have. Thank God for giving you loving parents. I was not meaning to offend you in any way, and I truly feel you, for I myself have considered suicide a couple of times myself. There were occasions where the thought of my mother crying at my grave were about the only thing keeping me from doing it. Deal with it. It's going to get better soon. Just don't do it. Seriously. Alright, just came across as weird to me. Maybe it's the my reading skill. | ||
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
On March 26 2007 10:11 intrigue wrote: there are things worth living for, but it's fucking hard to see right now. living in itself is a form of hope - camus remarked famously 'there is but one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide.' yes, why bother living when life sucks? take the leap of faith and stick with us. your parents care dearly for you, and that is more than many people can say. you have friends, you've had a girlfriend, you've spent time on earth. to know happiness once is to know it always, and you will only find regret if you act upon this. when i watched people who had attempted suicide in the back of the ambulance, it was easy to tell apart those who meant it and those who didn't. something along the lines of 90% of suicide survivors relate that their last thought before unconsciousness was an overwhelming desperate hope to live, and you can see that right away in the daze and helpless relief in a survivor. look at you, you're nineteen, in the prime of your life about to kill yourself over a girl. what about education, movies, getting married, having kids? if you're really going to kill yourself, you would have done it instead of posting to hide behind the excuse of your mother. family is the most important thing in the world and if you can't find it in yourself to care about people that have spent every moment in their lives to culminate in this one moment of heartbreak, you are truly thankless and don't deserve to die. well, I don't know. to know happiness once and then lose it is, for me, desperation beyond belief more than anything else. I know I cannot ever be as happy as I was, and that.. is truly desperation. That ambulance thing.. I don't know, maybe that's the thing that will make me want to live again. I would have loved to have your experience. I don't know how it is to nearly die, I'm not sure I want to know. I'm not sure I want to "attempt" suicide only to maybe survive and get that feeling, the relief. And I don't know if I want to live with having a suicide attempt on my head, that's pretty shameful or what should I say. If I kill myself, it'll probably been under the train. It's sure and swift, which is what how I want my death. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
Get over it. Things happen, move on. You've gone through so much already and now you're just going to give up because one girl dumped you? Think to yourself, years ago, did you even see yourself having a girlfriend? Life goes on, situations improve, and things happen that you don't expect. Whether good or bad, you have to learn to take these things in stride. There is ALWAYS something good about life. So what, you don't have a girlfriend anymore? At least you know what it's like to love and be loved, at least you lived and learned from the experience. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, go for a walk, a stroll, take a look around you. Admire that which is life, stop sitting in your room in front of a computer and feeling sorry for yourself. Things don't come to you, you have to make things happen. With that being said, you should see a counselor anyway to get you through this hard time if you really feel that badly, and who knows you may be clinically depressed, I'm no doctor. All I know is, you need to spend a day outside, get up in the morning and watch the world waking up. Watch the birds, the animals, people getting up, children going to school, the beautiful fucking scenery of Norway, and think to yourself. | ||
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PissedOffEmo
Canada777 Posts
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
On March 26 2007 10:12 Liquid`Drone wrote: you're a smart guy something will come around finish highschool, start university in a different city. then make right every decision you feel you have made wrong. come to trondheim or whatever, no matter how socially inept you are you'll find someone with similar interests as yourself because we have student groups who engage in every thinkable activity. you need to move though, and then you need to make an effort. staying in the same environment will only be harmful, but through moving and starting university in a different city you can literally get a fresh start. assuming you don't live in trondheim, trondheim is a great place to start over. =P and if you do live in trondheim then pm me! I've actually thought about going to trondheim next year, but my grades aren't good enough. The fresh start thing though, I don't think that's what will help me. I've tried doing fresh starts a few times and it haven't worked so far. Maybe I'll try one more time.. I really can't decide. Oh and rpf.. I'll talk to a counselor before I attempt suicide. I've talked with my parents about it already. I don't know, talking with them doesn't help. They don't understand what I'm feeling and just keep saying you'll get through it. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 26 2007 10:22 Cpt Obvious wrote: this is not an ethical question, but really one like 'how to make him feel value for life' which simply saying 'you can't do this' would not provide.Beyonder, my point was exactly what you told ME. There are situations worse than his. Ethenielle, to make it clear: Nothing justifies to willingly end your life. All I tried to say was that I'm not thinking about killing myself no matter how hard life appears to be. I try to look at the bright side of things and make the best out of it. So why should you do it? So you think you are ugly? Guess what, I have acne too. If people judge you by your looks, they're not worth your attention, period. So you are lonely/sad, because your girlfriend dumped you? Guess what, you're not the first one ever to get dumped. You're gonna find another girlfriend sooner or later. Enjoy your freedom. So you think life sucks in general because you have no friends or no perspective for your future? Well, whose fault is that? Get off your lazy ass and do something about it. Go to college, get a job, whatever. It's not like you are some central african disabled, illiterate child who was a child soldier. Embrace what luck you had and still have. Thank God for giving you loving parents. I was not meaning to offend you in any way, and I truly feel you, for I myself have considered suicide a couple of times myself. There were occasions where the thought of my mother crying at my grave were about the only thing keeping me from doing it. Deal with it. It's going to get better soon. Just don't do it. Seriously. it would help if you could tell us about your outlook on life, just describe the metaphysics of it naturally. | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
I believe these things happen because living for yourself will give you the confidence and independence to draw people to you. Don't worry so much about making people come to you right now. If you can live independently of others and be happy with yourself, others will see your strength. Don't let others dictate your life, take control. | ||
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