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blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
July 04 2016 19:14 GMT
#181
On July 05 2016 03:28 Masheyoon wrote:
It's not fair to flame Durant, in my opinion. The man wants championships under his belt and he joined the team that would best ensure his chances of that happening. Anyone of you (I think, lol) would do the same including me.


It's entirely fair to flame Durant. It's a bitch move from a beta player.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
July 04 2016 19:25 GMT
#182
On July 05 2016 04:14 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 03:28 Masheyoon wrote:
It's not fair to flame Durant, in my opinion. The man wants championships under his belt and he joined the team that would best ensure his chances of that happening. Anyone of you (I think, lol) would do the same including me.


It's entirely fair to flame Durant. It's a bitch move from a beta player.


Is it a bitch move because he lost to GS? Or is it because they're a 73-win team? Supposedly he's been considering a move to GS for some time now, so I don't see why that would matter.

Is what Lebron did really that different? They both joined super teams because they wanted to win. I mean, if I were a professional athlete obsessed with winning, I'd want to go to the top team as well.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17442 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-04 19:46:02
July 04 2016 19:44 GMT
#183
welp, Bogut is gone... and the Spurs went with plan "b". the media kept saying the Raptors and Spurs were front runners for Gasol. The Raptors have no cap space... must've been Gasol's agent trying to create a fake bidding war.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
July 04 2016 19:46 GMT
#184
On July 05 2016 04:25 Masheyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 04:14 blobrus wrote:
On July 05 2016 03:28 Masheyoon wrote:
It's not fair to flame Durant, in my opinion. The man wants championships under his belt and he joined the team that would best ensure his chances of that happening. Anyone of you (I think, lol) would do the same including me.


It's entirely fair to flame Durant. It's a bitch move from a beta player.


Is it a bitch move because he lost to GS? Or is it because they're a 73-win team? Supposedly he's been considering a move to GS for some time now, so I don't see why that would matter.

Is what Lebron did really that different? They both joined super teams because they wanted to win. I mean, if I were a professional athlete obsessed with winning, I'd want to go to the top team as well.


Yes it's a bitch move because he joined a team that he choked against in the WCF and in doing so admitted he isn't good enough to be a champion even with a legitimate MVP candidate on his team.

Lebron's move was at least motivated by the fact that Cleveland constantly failed to surround him with any semblance of a talented/decent roster. Compare the Cleveland teams LBJ played on to the OKC teams KD played on, it's no contest. While I don't particularly like what Lebron did at least its understandable because Cleveland gave him a bunch of bums to play with, KD left because of his pathetic "if you can't beat em join em" beta mentality.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
July 04 2016 19:48 GMT
#185
On July 05 2016 00:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't think it works. Unless they changed the rules, there's still only one ball on the court.


the same thing was said when the Heatles was formed.

granted they only won 2 out of the 4 years, but this time, the Splash family is a lot better and more expectations riding on their backs.

75-7 seasons and championships
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-04 20:21:16
July 04 2016 20:19 GMT
#186
On July 05 2016 04:48 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 00:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't think it works. Unless they changed the rules, there's still only one ball on the court.


the same thing was said when the Heatles was formed.

granted they only won 2 out of the 4 years, but this time, the Splash family is a lot better and more expectations riding on their backs.

75-7 seasons and championships


Bosh basically had to reinvent himself as a player. And Miami would be a one ring team if it weren't for that 3pter...

I could be wrong though. I know a lot less about basketball than most folks here, but I'm feeling Lakers more than Heat here.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17442 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-04 20:33:02
July 04 2016 20:28 GMT
#187
On July 05 2016 04:48 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 00:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
I don't think it works. Unless they changed the rules, there's still only one ball on the court.


the same thing was said when the Heatles was formed.

granted they only won 2 out of the 4 years,


the Heat never really dominated. they deserved to be champs, but no one should mistake any of the Heat teams with the '96 Bulls.
1 of those 2 championships was a 7 game cliff hanger... and the next year they won they were down 3-2 to Boston in the ECF.

with 8 players locked up GSW is $6M under the Cap.... i guess that is why they had to unload Bogut.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-04 20:37:31
July 04 2016 20:32 GMT
#188
On July 05 2016 04:46 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 04:25 Masheyoon wrote:
On July 05 2016 04:14 blobrus wrote:
On July 05 2016 03:28 Masheyoon wrote:
It's not fair to flame Durant, in my opinion. The man wants championships under his belt and he joined the team that would best ensure his chances of that happening. Anyone of you (I think, lol) would do the same including me.


It's entirely fair to flame Durant. It's a bitch move from a beta player.


Is it a bitch move because he lost to GS? Or is it because they're a 73-win team? Supposedly he's been considering a move to GS for some time now, so I don't see why that would matter.

Is what Lebron did really that different? They both joined super teams because they wanted to win. I mean, if I were a professional athlete obsessed with winning, I'd want to go to the top team as well.


Yes it's a bitch move because he joined a team that he choked against in the WCF and in doing so admitted he isn't good enough to be a champion even with a legitimate MVP candidate on his team.

Lebron's move was at least motivated by the fact that Cleveland constantly failed to surround him with any semblance of a talented/decent roster. Compare the Cleveland teams LBJ played on to the OKC teams KD played on, it's no contest. While I don't particularly like what Lebron did at least its understandable because Cleveland gave him a bunch of bums to play with, KD left because of his pathetic "if you can't beat em join em" beta mentality.


Skip Bayless, is that you?



In all seriousness, though, I'm following Brazil news because I had a few investments there. Between Zika, muggings, possible terrorist attacks and all sorts of potential shit, I'd be very nervous if I was the Warriors. They have three players there and it's going to be a shit show.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 04 2016 20:32 GMT
#189
On July 05 2016 04:46 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 04:25 Masheyoon wrote:
On July 05 2016 04:14 blobrus wrote:
On July 05 2016 03:28 Masheyoon wrote:
It's not fair to flame Durant, in my opinion. The man wants championships under his belt and he joined the team that would best ensure his chances of that happening. Anyone of you (I think, lol) would do the same including me.


It's entirely fair to flame Durant. It's a bitch move from a beta player.


Is it a bitch move because he lost to GS? Or is it because they're a 73-win team? Supposedly he's been considering a move to GS for some time now, so I don't see why that would matter.

Is what Lebron did really that different? They both joined super teams because they wanted to win. I mean, if I were a professional athlete obsessed with winning, I'd want to go to the top team as well.


Yes it's a bitch move because he joined a team that he choked against in the WCF and in doing so admitted he isn't good enough to be a champion even with a legitimate MVP candidate on his team.

Lebron's move was at least motivated by the fact that Cleveland constantly failed to surround him with any semblance of a talented/decent roster. Compare the Cleveland teams LBJ played on to the OKC teams KD played on, it's no contest. While I don't particularly like what Lebron did at least its understandable because Cleveland gave him a bunch of bums to play with, KD left because of his pathetic "if you can't beat em join em" beta mentality.

Lol it is pretty childish of you to call him a bad player for wanting to join a good team.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17442 Posts
July 04 2016 20:47 GMT
#190
On July 05 2016 05:32 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 04:46 blobrus wrote:
On July 05 2016 04:25 Masheyoon wrote:
On July 05 2016 04:14 blobrus wrote:
On July 05 2016 03:28 Masheyoon wrote:
It's not fair to flame Durant, in my opinion. The man wants championships under his belt and he joined the team that would best ensure his chances of that happening. Anyone of you (I think, lol) would do the same including me.


It's entirely fair to flame Durant. It's a bitch move from a beta player.


Is it a bitch move because he lost to GS? Or is it because they're a 73-win team? Supposedly he's been considering a move to GS for some time now, so I don't see why that would matter.

Is what Lebron did really that different? They both joined super teams because they wanted to win. I mean, if I were a professional athlete obsessed with winning, I'd want to go to the top team as well.


Yes it's a bitch move because he joined a team that he choked against in the WCF and in doing so admitted he isn't good enough to be a champion even with a legitimate MVP candidate on his team.

Lebron's move was at least motivated by the fact that Cleveland constantly failed to surround him with any semblance of a talented/decent roster. Compare the Cleveland teams LBJ played on to the OKC teams KD played on, it's no contest. While I don't particularly like what Lebron did at least its understandable because Cleveland gave him a bunch of bums to play with, KD left because of his pathetic "if you can't beat em join em" beta mentality.


Skip Bayless, is that you?
In all seriousness, though, I'm following Brazil news because I had a few investments there. Between Zika, muggings, possible terrorist attacks and all sorts of potential shit, I'd be very nervous if I was the Warriors. They have three players there and it's going to be a shit show.

the only thing that can stop the Zika virus right now is a good immune system.

i think the most entertaining sports are ones with "dynasty teams"//"dominant champions" in them. Watching the GSW was fun this year...every regular season game became an event. MMA got more mainstream coverage than it ever has because of Ronda Rousey. The New England Patriots draw either lovers or haters. The New York Yankees have been baseball's #1 draw for decades ...watching them lose to the low budget Tampa Rays( run by the #1 mind in baseball)? talk about sweet. On the other hand, the NHL has so much parity (and so little scoring) its boring.

Next year should be fun to watch.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 04 2016 21:55 GMT
#191
--- Nuked ---
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 04 2016 23:33 GMT
#192
wonder how they're gonna get a decent center to replace bogut, they got bodied pretty hard by adams/kanter.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 04 2016 23:39 GMT
#193
the only thing i have to say is

can i get my estro logo back pls
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 04 2016 23:41 GMT
#194
On July 05 2016 08:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
wonder how they're gonna get a decent center to replace bogut, they got bodied pretty hard by adams/kanter.


they just signed Zaza for 2.9 million. there u go!
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17442 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-05 01:43:06
July 05 2016 00:07 GMT
#195
On July 05 2016 06:55 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 05:47 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On July 05 2016 05:32 andrewlt wrote:
On July 05 2016 04:46 blobrus wrote:
On July 05 2016 04:25 Masheyoon wrote:
On July 05 2016 04:14 blobrus wrote:
On July 05 2016 03:28 Masheyoon wrote:
It's not fair to flame Durant, in my opinion. The man wants championships under his belt and he joined the team that would best ensure his chances of that happening. Anyone of you (I think, lol) would do the same including me.


It's entirely fair to flame Durant. It's a bitch move from a beta player.


Is it a bitch move because he lost to GS? Or is it because they're a 73-win team? Supposedly he's been considering a move to GS for some time now, so I don't see why that would matter.

Is what Lebron did really that different? They both joined super teams because they wanted to win. I mean, if I were a professional athlete obsessed with winning, I'd want to go to the top team as well.


Yes it's a bitch move because he joined a team that he choked against in the WCF and in doing so admitted he isn't good enough to be a champion even with a legitimate MVP candidate on his team.

Lebron's move was at least motivated by the fact that Cleveland constantly failed to surround him with any semblance of a talented/decent roster. Compare the Cleveland teams LBJ played on to the OKC teams KD played on, it's no contest. While I don't particularly like what Lebron did at least its understandable because Cleveland gave him a bunch of bums to play with, KD left because of his pathetic "if you can't beat em join em" beta mentality.


Skip Bayless, is that you?
In all seriousness, though, I'm following Brazil news because I had a few investments there. Between Zika, muggings, possible terrorist attacks and all sorts of potential shit, I'd be very nervous if I was the Warriors. They have three players there and it's going to be a shit show.

the only thing that can stop the Zika virus right now is a good immune system.

i think the most entertaining sports are ones with "dynasty teams"//"dominant champions" in them. Watching the GSW was fun this year...every regular season game became an event. MMA got more mainstream coverage than it ever has because of Ronda Rousey. The New England Patriots draw either lovers or haters. The New York Yankees have been baseball's #1 draw for decades ...watching them lose to the low budget Tampa Rays( run by the #1 mind in baseball)? talk about sweet. On the other hand, the NHL has so much parity (and so little scoring) its boring.

Next year should be fun to watch.



JimmyJ bringing out those "facts" again. in the last 8 years there have been only 4 cup winners with Chi winning 3 La 2 pens 2 and Bruins 1

Compare that to NBA with 6 different champions and the NFL with 8 different. MLB with 6 (giants 3 other teams each 1) So if dynasties turn you on should be into hockey and the Blackhawks with the MLB second.


NHL has had 14 champs in the last 23 years with 1 repeat in those 23 years. .. Detroit in '97 and '98. NBA has the Lakers and Bulls 3-peat. Miami, Lakers and Rockets repeating in that time span.

Every NHL team loses at least 25+ games a year. This year the most "dominant" NHL team lost 26 games. Last year 29 games. Every year more and more games end in a tie. and every year any one of 8 teams is 1 hot goalie away from an "improbable" run to the finals. That's parity.

This is nothing like the NBA. Nothing. The NHL has not seen a team like the Golden State Warriors or the mid-90s Bulls or even teh 2000 Lakers since the gretzky-Oilers of the 80s.

When has there been so much hype and focus around regular season games except during the '96 Bulls and '16 Warriors amazing runs? Never. The NHL has not seen anything like that since the 1978 Montreal Canadiens( TL has a user named Cam Connor.. btw).

Parity is boring. I like a league with a super elite team or the UFC when it has an amazing champion that wins in brutal one-sided fashion. And judging by the NBA and UFC's growth... so do other people. its not like i'm alone here.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
July 05 2016 00:29 GMT
#196
I'm interested in seeing the reaction to KD after pulling this move. Lebron basically got crucified for pulling something similar. What KD did was much worse, he joined a team that went 73-9 this season, and has also won a championship without him. As many on the internet have said, it's like prime Bird joining the Lakers or Malone joining the Bulls.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 05 2016 01:43 GMT
#197
On July 05 2016 04:46 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2016 04:25 Masheyoon wrote:
On July 05 2016 04:14 blobrus wrote:
On July 05 2016 03:28 Masheyoon wrote:
It's not fair to flame Durant, in my opinion. The man wants championships under his belt and he joined the team that would best ensure his chances of that happening. Anyone of you (I think, lol) would do the same including me.


It's entirely fair to flame Durant. It's a bitch move from a beta player.


Is it a bitch move because he lost to GS? Or is it because they're a 73-win team? Supposedly he's been considering a move to GS for some time now, so I don't see why that would matter.

Is what Lebron did really that different? They both joined super teams because they wanted to win. I mean, if I were a professional athlete obsessed with winning, I'd want to go to the top team as well.


Yes it's a bitch move because he joined a team that he choked against in the WCF and in doing so admitted he isn't good enough to be a champion even with a legitimate MVP candidate on his team.

Lebron's move was at least motivated by the fact that Cleveland constantly failed to surround him with any semblance of a talented/decent roster. Compare the Cleveland teams LBJ played on to the OKC teams KD played on, it's no contest. While I don't particularly like what Lebron did at least its understandable because Cleveland gave him a bunch of bums to play with, KD left because of his pathetic "if you can't beat em join em" beta mentality.


You're absolutely right. It's a totally "beta" (you ought to be ashamed for even using this term. What is wrong with you?) to be given several options of winning a championship and picking the best one out of the lot. How dare he do that right? A super competitive guy take every chance he's got to win generally speaking. Beta mentality or not...

Seriously who uses beta anymore?

You know what though? This r/nba/ style flaming shit show aside you're kidding yourself if the NBA actually wants parity. Nobody actually wants parity if you're interested in sports. Sure, they say they do, but they really don't judging by how the ratings shoot up when super teams are formed. There is a reason those 96 Bulls had such an insane rating. There is a reason why good super style teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid fill up stadiums. People love the super team. An equal amount love to watch them crash and burn.

So sit back and fucking relax already. You're either about to see the best basketball you have ever seen this season or you're going to see what should be the greatest basketball team in history crash and burn in glorious flames.

Either appeals to me personally. It's not as if Durant owes me anything.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17442 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-05 02:11:51
July 05 2016 02:06 GMT
#198
On July 05 2016 10:43 Jayme wrote:
There is a reason those 96 Bulls had such an insane rating. There is a reason why good super style teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid fill up stadiums. People love the super team. An equal amount love to watch them crash and burn.

So sit back and fucking relax already. You're either about to see the best basketball you have ever seen this season or you're going to see what should be the greatest basketball team in history crash and burn in glorious flames.


from what i've read ... and heard from older relatives ...there was nearly a parade after the '96 Raptors beat the Bulls in a regular season game... its party time in Toronto.. teh Raptors won a regular season game!

lol
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 05 2016 02:59 GMT
#199
While it's a super-team, expect the first half of the season to be pretty rocky. It's going to take a while for them to work together, and the reason the Warriors could score so much was their ball & player movement. KD was in the least ball movement team in the league last year. Everyone is going to need to sacrifice touches and shots, which will take time to learn.

Don't be surprised if the team is around .500 at Christmas. Also, their defense will have to be changed around as well.
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
July 05 2016 03:20 GMT
#200
Fans are roasting Kevin Durant for this tweet from 2010 criticizing superteams
Dude made a decisions for championships, can't help but think this limits his potential legacy. Either way it's pretty weak after his previous tweets and choking at the end this year.
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