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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Slaughter
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Also i can battle cry the Light's Judgement :') | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On February 05 2018 00:23 Cyro wrote: I think the scaling is a bit off at 40-60, stuff suddenly becomes quite hard to kill at 40+ and then gets way harder up to 60. When you go to outland/northrend content you're doing more damage and the health of all of the mobs actually drops again (e.g. from 250k boss HP to 170k) Also i can battle cry the Light's Judgement :') I dont get why they frequently have so much trouble with this. There is noone more experienced with numbers scaling in gaming than Blizzard. They have mathematicians working for them I heard. And then there are mistakes in the game an intern with a pocket calculator could correct in a few seconds. | ||
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Still im "semi enjoying it" but its a big big grind! Oh we are double monk leveling with full heirlooms so the mobs and questing is extremely easy mobs melt. Pull as many mobs as we can, pop earth storm fire thing and press fist of fury and everything dies insta. | ||
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Cyro
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On February 05 2018 04:09 Redox wrote: I dont get why they frequently have so much trouble with this. There is noone more experienced with numbers scaling in gaming than Blizzard. They have mathematicians working for them I heard. And then there are mistakes in the game an intern with a pocket calculator could correct in a few seconds. Yeah, it's odd to see some of those numbers. Fixes probably inc, they just weren't as obvious as some of the other problems Was gonna queue into ZF at level 60 to compare health numbers first hand vs expansion content, decided not to, accidentally did it anyway lol first boss had 300k HP, hydra had 406k and this happened on overall dmg: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/3JWbaov.png) just deleting however many elites happen to be around within 3-5 globals, the full Fury(tm) experience  -------- Blood furnace eyeball boss had 116k HP at level 61, so uh, 3 - 4x less health than the classic bosses did! I'm sure that 40-60 on classic was really screwy now, level 39 and 61 played fine. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On February 05 2018 04:22 Cyro wrote: Yeah, it's odd to see some of those numbers. Fixes probably inc, they just weren't as obvious as some of the other problems Was gonna queue into ZF at level 60 to compare health numbers first hand vs expansion content, decided not to, accidentally did it anyway lol first boss had 300k HP, hydra had 406k and this happened on overall dmg: just deleting however many elites happen to be around within 3-5 globals, the full Fury(tm) experience -------- Blood furnace eyeball boss had 116k HP at level 61, so uh, 3 - 4x less health than the classic bosses did! I'm sure that 40-60 on classic was really screwy now, level 39 and 61 played fine. Bosses HP wont be fixed until Cata usually. Also Battlecry makes every ability 100% crit passives etc included idk why that would be shocking. As such its almost always been a complaint about BC/Wrath bosses having too little hp, i think you could probably quickly run every dungeon with 3 people and come out with pretty good xp imo | ||
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Cyro
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Also Battlecry makes every ability 100% crit passives etc included idk why that would be shocking. It has a lot of implications that people rarely talk about outside of their own class communities if at all --- As such its almost always been a complaint about BC/Wrath bosses having too little hp, i think you could probably quickly run every dungeon with 3 people and come out with pretty good xp imo Have you played them since the rework? I'd say that vanilla has too much hp and damage (400k) while wrath is pretty fine (250k) and TBC is on the low side (110k). Kill times range from about 20 seconds (TBC, high dmg group) to over 3 minutes (vanilla with sucky group) Having all of these different health and damage values at the exact same level and seemingly the same exp reward is really odd. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On February 05 2018 17:08 Cyro wrote: It has a lot of implications that people rarely talk about outside of their own class communities if at all --- Have you played them since the rework? I'd say that vanilla has too much hp and damage (400k) while wrath is pretty fine (250k) and TBC is on the low side (110k). Kill times range from about 20 seconds (TBC, high dmg group) to over 3 minutes (vanilla with sucky group) Having all of these different health and damage values at the exact same level and seemingly the same exp reward is really odd. Truthfully the last time I did any BC content they still had 20k hp when people were easily doing 1-2k at lvl 60 so i dunno. along with most mobs having 5-8k hp so being able to get one shot in most cases | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On February 06 2018 19:06 arb wrote: Truthfully the last time I did any BC content they still had 20k hp when people were easily doing 1-2k at lvl 60 so i dunno. along with most mobs having 5-8k hp so being able to get one shot in most cases Yeah, 110k or 250k is a big difference for that. People were still doing around 1k in my groups ST There were some class adjustments today, slight buff to fire (bugfix compensation, no dps gain) and bm (bit of a buff, slightly more worth t21) plus some healing reductions and DPS nerfs for affliction. They lost around 1.5% on ST and 4% on Coven from what i can tell. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Warlocks but not paladins? :/ That sucks, i was really hoping to get to play a Zandalari paladin ever since i heard we would get to play as the Zandalari | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On February 07 2018 08:22 Unleashing wrote: https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/961008239558168576 Warlocks but not paladins? :/ That sucks, i was really hoping to get to play a Zandalari paladin ever since i heard we would get to play as the Zandalari Well warlock is probably the most fitting class for zandalari and paladin the least fitting, so really no surprise here. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On February 07 2018 15:08 Redox wrote: Well warlock is probably the most fitting class for zandalari and paladin the least fitting, so really no surprise here. Uh, what? We know that Zandalari paladins have existed since vanilla in Zul'Gurub where we were told of the Zandalari freethinkers who are their Paladin equivalent. Jin'rokh the Breaker to the Paladin player characters: You are a heathen. Heathens have a place in the tribe. Heathens are freethinkers of Zandalar. Freethinkers do not fear oppression. Freethinkers die for what they believe in. We know you would die for what you believe in. This earns our acknowledgement. This earns you a chance to prove yourself further. We must have the Paragons of Power. Go to Zul'Gurub. Kill the minions of Hakkar. Return when you have what I seek. Claim the first battle gear of a Zandalar freethinker. Go. https://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:Paragons_of_Power:_The_Freethinker's_Armguards And there were Zandalari paladin mobs in ToT: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=69927/zandalari-prelate In what way is that the least fitting? | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On February 07 2018 17:05 Unleashing wrote: In what way is that the least fitting? Because I dont think it fits with the whole vodoo / witchcraft theme they have. Paladin is about following strict rules, everything being out in the open etc, it would really be the last thing I would think of when thinking of zandalari. Did not know about those mobs though. But it would still strike me as weird. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On February 07 2018 18:01 Redox wrote: Because I dont think it fits with the whole vodoo / witchcraft theme they have. Paladin is about following strict rules, everything being out in the open etc, it would really be the last thing I would think of when thinking of zandalari. Did not know about those mobs though. But it would still strike me as weird. Idk, seems like you're confusing Zandalari with trolls like the Darkspear. Zandalari do not have a voodoo/witchcraft theme, their theme is based on the Aztec empire and the associated culture. Zandalari are all about zealous fervor and are a highly spiritual and religious people who live within a caste system(Also the most religious trolls by far). They're completely different from the other troll tribes and they value scholars and priesthood, they most definitely follow strict rules and order. Again, Zandalari paladins have been established since vanilla as their Freethinkers(what they call their paladin equivalent) were the first to lead the fight against Hakkar and the Gurubashi way way back when that clash began originally. Zandalari paladins definitely make a thousand times more sense than Tauren paladins ever did. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Though tbf blood elf paladins might be less fitting anyway. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
In reality any race that can wield the power of the Light as a priest should be able to be a Paladin. (Though the dumbest class/race combination is still forsaken being able to wield holy powers as priests since wielding holy powers is the same as torture to the forsaken) | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
For example I had actually never quested through Darkshore. And that area had like 120 quests and took me from 20 to 32. It is actually quite amazing how much questing content Blizz created with Cataclysm, and much of it was never looked at simply because leveling was so fast. Although even now it seems quite fast to me, I will probably only visit 4 areas before I hit 60. Tbf that is with heirlooms. | ||
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