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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 14:56:31
December 07 2016 14:02 GMT
#4621
I mean monk might be good for it, don't know how the balance is but our current tanks are set up badly enough that they don't want to try it, traits around 32-34 and below average ilvl etc. We were progressing 2tank into a DPS wall that won't exist any more w/ 5% HP reduction for 2tank strat
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 07 2016 14:07 GMT
#4622
Other than "because thats the player we got" what would be a reason to bring any other tank than guardian druid to a raid? Like yeah pala is good for m+ rushes but i just dont see how they are even comparable to druid in raids.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 07 2016 14:20 GMT
#4623
Monks are currently one of the best tanks if you have a good one. They never spike in damage and can mitigate more damage than possibly any other tank with proper stats.

Community perception is bad on them because there are so few of them, and bad ones are really bad.

Druids are good, but I think people are really overstating their abilities at times. There are BrM out there in tough Mythic fights taking less overall damage than Druids while tanking more of the fight. The biggest problem BrM brings it that they have zero raid utility compared to other tanks. In 7.1.5 on the PTR atm my BrM is almost unkillable. I have 95% up front stopping power of magic and phsyical with 2 piece nighthold and my new 75 talent. You can soak any mechanic you want and then just clear half the damage instantly.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
December 07 2016 14:50 GMT
#4624
My brother started pretty late, so is only AK6, is there any catchup mechanic that will help him on the PTR? I'm a bit confused as I heard there are catchup for alts, which implies there needs to be a main that unlocks it, which sadly my brother has not.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 14:54:00
December 07 2016 14:53 GMT
#4625
On December 07 2016 23:50 crappen wrote:
My brother started pretty late, so is only AK6, is there any catchup mechanic that will help him on the PTR? I'm a bit confused as I heard there are catchup for alts, which implies there needs to be a main that unlocks it, which sadly my brother has not.


The researches are 1.67x faster for him until very high AK (already ingame)

I think 7.1.5 will let you skip some AK's with no other character but not 100% sure. It's there for new players / new mains etc as much (or even more) than it's there for alts
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 07 2016 14:54 GMT
#4626
Well, our monk tank is gladly a good one and one of the best geared in the world for most of our progress, maybe now people have caught up. Even tho there's no raid utility as such, they just don't spike in health ever, which makes it really easy to heal.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 07 2016 15:02 GMT
#4627
The only thing I am worried about for monks is that next patch is going to show how solid of a tank they are even more and likely get more people playing the class. This will either make our problem worse by having more bad players on the class and people alienating them more, or will make it show that we actually are really strong and likely to be nerfed (similar to WoD).

I love how sturdy we are though. We just take huge hits and its never a problem. I really like how BrM is playing compared to other tanks.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 07 2016 15:03 GMT
#4628
Ye that thing that makes stagger work full vs magic will be sick.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 15:26:57
December 07 2016 15:11 GMT
#4629
DH just gets 100-0'd so fast outside of demon spikes for fights like that, it was not designed to be solotanked like they said but the DPS check was tight and tank mechanic was not punishing enough
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 15:31:21
December 07 2016 15:30 GMT
#4630
every day before i turn in my cache quests, i say please god let me have a dps legendary

instead i got a fucking prydaz on my 818 ilevel rogue with <13 hours played this level
ffxiv enjoyer
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 07 2016 15:33 GMT
#4631
So apparently pvp trinkets can proc to have a second secondary. So you can get like 800versa 800haste/mast/crit/versa on top and then the 3k main stat proc. Pretty op. Last week the time walking dungeon had good trinkets but they got nerfed already so im glad i didnt waste time farming those (the 820 drop i got was better than my 850 horn of valor). Not so sure if they're gonna nerf the pvp trinkets though. I really dont want to do pvp sigh
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 07 2016 15:48 GMT
#4632
Yeah I got the 820 timewalking trinket (834 Crit, chance to proc 5500 agi for 15 seconds. Tested it out was, about 1 proc per minute so 25% uptime).

It quickly got nerfed (no notes about it of course) in like 2 days. Its only 3600 agi now so I sold it.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 16:07:11
December 07 2016 16:04 GMT
#4633
Any advice on how to farm legendaries? 3rd legendary is the main improvement I can realistically look for atm. 2nd one is pretty long ago so my chance should be decent.

I am mainly wondering about the drop chance in hc dungeons vs mythic vs mythic+ vs raids.
Also is the chance in low key M+ same as for higher keys?
Off-season = best season
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
December 07 2016 16:11 GMT
#4634
On December 08 2016 01:04 Redox wrote:
Any advice on how to farm legendaries? 3rd legendary is the main improvement I can realistically look for atm. 2nd one is pretty long ago so my chance should be decent.

I am mainly wondering about the drop chance in hc dungeons vs mythic vs mythic+ vs raids.
Also is the chance in low key M+ same as for higher keys?


IMO you should just do the content you enjoy so you don't burn yourself out while grinding. Every time you don't get a legendary you accumulate more of the "bad luck protection", so I suppose the most efficient way would be to do the things that go fastest.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 16:14:21
December 07 2016 16:12 GMT
#4635
It quickly got nerfed (no notes about it of course) in like 2 days


There was a note afterwards. With more than a few BIS-quality trinkets from timewalking it wasn't surprising

On December 08 2016 01:04 Redox wrote:
Any advice on how to farm legendaries? 3rd legendary is the main improvement I can realistically look for atm. 2nd one is pretty long ago so my chance should be decent.

I am mainly wondering about the drop chance in hc dungeons vs mythic vs mythic+ vs raids.
Also is the chance in low key M+ same as for higher keys?


Don't know / have not seen enough evidence for m+ different key levels. I think aiming as high as you can consistently 2chest is a solid bet.

Clear normal and heroic each week, the amount of legendary-multiplier-per-hour is very high and the AP that you get is even higher than mythic+ as well if you're quick about it. The chance seems to be tuned around people progress raiding or farming 1 difficulty rather than bulldozing through 20 bosses in 3 hours (sidenote, don't think LFR gives significant bonus)

Emissary cache, but you get those 1 per day and probably already did them all - after that it's mainly mythic+ farming
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22081 Posts
December 07 2016 16:34 GMT
#4636
On December 07 2016 23:50 crappen wrote:
My brother started pretty late, so is only AK6, is there any catchup mechanic that will help him on the PTR? I'm a bit confused as I heard there are catchup for alts, which implies there needs to be a main that unlocks it, which sadly my brother has not.

There are 2 catch up mechanics in the patch. One for alts and one for mains.

You can buy an item with order resources that will instantly teach AK to an alt if your main has it (up to AK20)
And you can buy instant AK for order resources up to AK15, useful for new players.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 16:46:30
December 07 2016 16:45 GMT
#4637
On December 08 2016 01:34 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:50 crappen wrote:
My brother started pretty late, so is only AK6, is there any catchup mechanic that will help him on the PTR? I'm a bit confused as I heard there are catchup for alts, which implies there needs to be a main that unlocks it, which sadly my brother has not.

There are 2 catch up mechanics in the patch. One for alts and one for mains.

You can buy an item with order resources that will instantly teach AK to an alt if your main has it (up to AK20)
And you can buy instant AK for order resources up to AK15, useful for new players.


O_O

oh damn

does that apply for offspecs on my main as well?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 16:48:15
December 07 2016 16:47 GMT
#4638
On December 08 2016 01:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 01:34 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 07 2016 23:50 crappen wrote:
My brother started pretty late, so is only AK6, is there any catchup mechanic that will help him on the PTR? I'm a bit confused as I heard there are catchup for alts, which implies there needs to be a main that unlocks it, which sadly my brother has not.

There are 2 catch up mechanics in the patch. One for alts and one for mains.

You can buy an item with order resources that will instantly teach AK to an alt if your main has it (up to AK20)
And you can buy instant AK for order resources up to AK15, useful for new players.


O_O

oh damn

does that apply for offspecs on my main as well?


AK level has nothing to do with your specc. If your main is at Ak15 you will get AP at that rate, what weapon you apply it to is upto you.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 07 2016 16:54 GMT
#4639
On December 08 2016 01:47 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 01:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 08 2016 01:34 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 07 2016 23:50 crappen wrote:
My brother started pretty late, so is only AK6, is there any catchup mechanic that will help him on the PTR? I'm a bit confused as I heard there are catchup for alts, which implies there needs to be a main that unlocks it, which sadly my brother has not.

There are 2 catch up mechanics in the patch. One for alts and one for mains.

You can buy an item with order resources that will instantly teach AK to an alt if your main has it (up to AK20)
And you can buy instant AK for order resources up to AK15, useful for new players.


O_O

oh damn

does that apply for offspecs on my main as well?


AK level has nothing to do with your specc. If your main is at Ak15 you will get AP at that rate, what weapon you apply it to is upto you.


Oh right. Yeah I'm an idiot, nvm. Still, nice for my DK
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 07 2016 16:55 GMT
#4640
On December 08 2016 01:11 nimbim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 01:04 Redox wrote:
Any advice on how to farm legendaries? 3rd legendary is the main improvement I can realistically look for atm. 2nd one is pretty long ago so my chance should be decent.

I am mainly wondering about the drop chance in hc dungeons vs mythic vs mythic+ vs raids.
Also is the chance in low key M+ same as for higher keys?


IMO you should just do the content you enjoy so you don't burn yourself out while grinding. Every time you don't get a legendary you accumulate more of the "bad luck protection", so I suppose the most efficient way would be to do the things that go fastest.

Yeah I am aware of how that works which is why I believe I can farm it and it should not take too long. Question is basically where I can accumulate the chance the fastest.
Regarding enjoyment, I already slowed down on M+ recently so I am again motivated to do a few. Although there is not really a difference in fun between lower and higher M+. Especially as healer it all depends on the group you get, I had +2 runs that were more demanding than others that were +9. From my experience there does not seem to be a drop chance difference between low and high M+ but it would be really useful to know this for sure.

What I hate doing though is raid finder and normal raids. Those are simply a chore. EN hc being not much better now. So I am wondering if I can skip on those or not.
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