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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 07 2016 17:02 GMT
#4641
I'm sad Blizzard nerfed the Guarm solo tanking strat, was kinda looking forward to try that as BrM.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 07 2016 17:28 GMT
#4642
I mean depends how serious you are about it? I havent done normal EM more than one or two times because its boring AF and i have 3 legendaries on one char. I do hc every week cause it's still somewhat likely to also get upgrades from titanforges + trinkets there. If i had all 880 in every slot i wouldnt bother just for the legendary drop. If you want that legendary really really badly then i guess you should do everything.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 17:34:23
December 07 2016 17:34 GMT
#4643
On December 08 2016 02:28 Warri wrote:
I mean depends how serious you are about it? I havent done normal EM more than one or two times because its boring AF and i have 3 legendaries on one char. I do hc every week cause it's still somewhat likely to also get upgrades from titanforges + trinkets there. If i had all 880 in every slot i wouldnt bother just for the legendary drop. If you want that legendary really really badly then i guess you should do everything.


When your 2 legendaries are Pyrdaz and Sephus you do everything you can QQ...
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 07 2016 17:52 GMT
#4644
Yeah i dont even know what ill do now if the 4th isnt the pants for prot pala. I have 2 ret legendaries by mistake and prydaz. If the next one arent the pants i might just have to reroll a new pala or quit. Blizz said they removed the cap of 4 but theres still no one who has 5. I dont know what the fuck they are doing this expansion but codewise they seem to be completely incompetent monkeys this time. I dont remember there ever being this many bugs, especially this many gamebreaking ones.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 18:19:59
December 07 2016 18:09 GMT
#4645
On December 08 2016 01:55 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 01:11 nimbim wrote:
On December 08 2016 01:04 Redox wrote:
Any advice on how to farm legendaries? 3rd legendary is the main improvement I can realistically look for atm. 2nd one is pretty long ago so my chance should be decent.

I am mainly wondering about the drop chance in hc dungeons vs mythic vs mythic+ vs raids.
Also is the chance in low key M+ same as for higher keys?


IMO you should just do the content you enjoy so you don't burn yourself out while grinding. Every time you don't get a legendary you accumulate more of the "bad luck protection", so I suppose the most efficient way would be to do the things that go fastest.

Yeah I am aware of how that works which is why I believe I can farm it and it should not take too long. Question is basically where I can accumulate the chance the fastest.
Regarding enjoyment, I already slowed down on M+ recently so I am again motivated to do a few. Although there is not really a difference in fun between lower and higher M+. Especially as healer it all depends on the group you get, I had +2 runs that were more demanding than others that were +9. From my experience there does not seem to be a drop chance difference between low and high M+ but it would be really useful to know this for sure.

What I hate doing though is raid finder and normal raids. Those are simply a chore. EN hc being not much better now. So I am wondering if I can skip on those or not.


I do EN normal every week, takes about 30-50 minutes depending on the group quality.

You can get that chance from mythic+ instead but it may take waaaaaaaaay longer for a similar%. AFAIK a raid boss on normal-mythic difficulty is worth a lot more than an entire mythic+ - If it were 3x more for example, that'd be like completing 21 mythic+ runs in 45 minutes. You obviously can't get anywhere remotely close to those rates with the repeatable farming content outside of raids because it's so high.

agree on the heroic, it's a pain if your guildies don't legendary/ap farm too.

----

Blizz said they removed the cap of 4 but theres still no one who has 5


That's not true AFAIK, many of the highly active people who were stuck at 4 got an extra legendary or two since then and i have not seen anything to suspect that 5-8 is still slower than 2, 3 and 4. When they re-enable the droprate multiplier it still takes a long time to add up, 2-3 weeks for very high activity players and over a month for lower activity.

Farming out an entire legendary takes a while unless you get quite lucky or have an exception like the first legendary on a new character
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 07 2016 18:43 GMT
#4646
On December 08 2016 02:52 Warri wrote:
Yeah i dont even know what ill do now if the 4th isnt the pants for prot pala. I have 2 ret legendaries by mistake and prydaz. If the next one arent the pants i might just have to reroll a new pala or quit. Blizz said they removed the cap of 4 but theres still no one who has 5. I dont know what the fuck they are doing this expansion but codewise they seem to be completely incompetent monkeys this time. I dont remember there ever being this many bugs, especially this many gamebreaking ones.

of course there's no way to know if it's actually working properly now but people definitely do have 5
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
December 07 2016 19:23 GMT
#4647
There's a guy in my guild with 6, and there has never been a hard cap, he actually had 5 before the soft cap was even removed
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 19:46:35
December 07 2016 19:44 GMT
#4648
With a base drop rate of 1 per 1000-2000 mythic+ runs(?) it's not really farmable so you were highly reliant on luck (or inhuman farming) to break past soft cap. The system that increases multiplier on failed attempts makes that rate much higher though and i think it is actually back on now
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 07 2016 19:51 GMT
#4649
The people who have 5 had more than 1 before the first bug was fixed though, right?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
December 07 2016 20:00 GMT
#4650
Some of the extremely active players (like doing 20 mythic+ a day every day) got 5'th at appropriate times after the blue post was made
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
December 07 2016 20:15 GMT
#4651
You could still get 5 after getting 4, you just didn't have bad luck protection any more. It's not as set as 'you only have 5 if you got more than 1 during the bug'
Moderator
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 20:25:12
December 07 2016 20:24 GMT
#4652
Kinda inappropriately named though if it gives 3-5x dropchance modifier to everybody even with average luck
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 20:36:59
December 07 2016 20:35 GMT
#4653
On December 08 2016 04:51 Warri wrote:
The people who have 5 had more than 1 before the first bug was fixed though, right?

i've got 5 and didn't get more than 1 before that bug was fixed.

On December 08 2016 05:00 Cyro wrote:
Some of the extremely active players (like doing 20 mythic+ a day every day) got 5'th at appropriate times after the blue post was made

yeah, this is pretty much all that needs to be said. it seems like they're dropping appropriately now. but still pretty damn hard to "farm" for anyone but the most dedicated
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 22:24:06
December 07 2016 22:12 GMT
#4654
On the Q&A when Ion mentioned viewing talent selections on warcraftlogs i went to take a look, first thing i checked (Guarm) there's 300-something kills with demon blades and 0 kills with demon's bite lol (same or very close to it on many mythic fights..)

It's interesting to see that Felblade still hasn't caught on outside of active theorycrafters because it hasn't been good/known for long enough i guess - and it'll probably stay that way with 7.1.5 around the corner to delete the current playstyles, too. 2-5% usage not deserved at all for what is definitely the best talent on some of these fights
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 07 2016 22:40 GMT
#4655
He also made comments on how classes should be able to compete without legendaries but the only Outlaw rogues in the top parses are with the bracers. And thats on live, they are buffing the bracers another +300% damage so it will be even further apart than what the base class can do. He said they should nerf the item and buff the class (but are doing the opposite for this)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 23:24:23
December 07 2016 23:24 GMT
#4656
Another 10.5% buff to chaos strike damage and 16.67% buff to demonic appetite talent - i like those kinds of changes going out w/ frequent builds
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 07 2016 23:40 GMT
#4657
On December 08 2016 07:40 Alventenie wrote:
He also made comments on how classes should be able to compete without legendaries but the only Outlaw rogues in the top parses are with the bracers. And thats on live, they are buffing the bracers another +300% damage so it will be even further apart than what the base class can do. He said they should nerf the item and buff the class (but are doing the opposite for this)


They just undid the buff to those wrists right now. So I guess theyknow about it atleast;
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 01:53:05
December 08 2016 00:37 GMT
#4658
Anger of the Half-Giants - Changed back to be identical to live.


There's one of the changes that i was expecting

The ring used to be highly dominant (+16% DPS) back when it gave +10.5 fury on average. A little while ago on live it was nerfed to give +6.5; on PTR it was nerfed again to +3.5

If that nerf had gone to live today, the ring would have gone from effectively +16% on Patchwerk at its best to winning by about 2.5 - 5.5% depending on the talents that it was competing with. It needed to be nerfed hard but +16% to +3% is too much :D

I do hope that DH works well with & without ring and that the fury gen in 7.1.5 is okay

DBlades has really destroyed DBite. I have not really considered Bite as a viable option for a while which was my favourite style (much less random) but damn - 80% of normal ursoc logs, 90% of heroic ursoc logs and 98.2% of mythic ursoc logs using DBlades. Those are some pretty crazy stats for an ability that's supposed to be a choice and a choice favoring DBite by blizzard's previous comments.

--

And good luck with blizzcon 2017, NonY :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
December 08 2016 09:12 GMT
#4659
So pvp season ends this week. Was 2496 on Sunday. Tanked 100 pts and mage/priest raged at each other. So anyone wanna play with a feral druid to push gladiator? Alliance side btw.
NrG.Kvz
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 08 2016 11:56 GMT
#4660
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5h4d4n/my_trinket_randomly_lost_882_vers_yesterday_for/
^ trinket stuff already fixed. that was pretty quick.
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