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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22048 Posts
September 29 2016 22:11 GMT
#3041
On September 30 2016 07:09 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2016 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 30 2016 03:28 NonY wrote:
On September 30 2016 02:49 dae wrote:
On September 29 2016 22:00 NonY wrote:
If you handle the spawning the shades perfectly, this is what happens. (shades one side, everyone else the other)

the DoT damage is unavoidable though right? Like there's an animation that seems to indicate a range but you can't range it can you? so getting them stacked all on one side just helps with dodging the other ability (lines of smoke on the ground)



Dot damage is reduced if your out of the circle that he puts - or its just a certain distance away, up to 50% of the max damage it can do.

that's good to know. dungeon journal doesn't describe it properly

i had a pug raid group, like multiple people in it, absolutely insist that nyth does a tail swipe "because all dragons do a tail swipe" but i couldnt find it in the ability list in the dungeon journal, which doesn't actually mean that it doesnt happen. always gotta actually check/test what's actually happening instead of trusting the tooltips and dungeon journal

There is no tailswipe on Nyth.

yup. idk what they were thinking

I would hazard a guess it is because of the limited room and the even more limiting factor of poison pools. A tail swipe would have removed another 1/5 of the room from use.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 29 2016 22:25 GMT
#3042
On September 30 2016 07:11 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2016 07:09 NonY wrote:
On September 30 2016 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 30 2016 03:28 NonY wrote:
On September 30 2016 02:49 dae wrote:
On September 29 2016 22:00 NonY wrote:
If you handle the spawning the shades perfectly, this is what happens. (shades one side, everyone else the other)

the DoT damage is unavoidable though right? Like there's an animation that seems to indicate a range but you can't range it can you? so getting them stacked all on one side just helps with dodging the other ability (lines of smoke on the ground)



Dot damage is reduced if your out of the circle that he puts - or its just a certain distance away, up to 50% of the max damage it can do.

that's good to know. dungeon journal doesn't describe it properly

i had a pug raid group, like multiple people in it, absolutely insist that nyth does a tail swipe "because all dragons do a tail swipe" but i couldnt find it in the ability list in the dungeon journal, which doesn't actually mean that it doesnt happen. always gotta actually check/test what's actually happening instead of trusting the tooltips and dungeon journal

There is no tailswipe on Nyth.

yup. idk what they were thinking

I would hazard a guess it is because of the limited room and the even more limiting factor of poison pools. A tail swipe would have removed another 1/5 of the room from use.

I mean IDK what these pugs were thinking. It's not in the journal and anyone who looked at a guide or did the fight before would know. But there were literally three people who said there was a tail swipe and no one said otherwise. Still I was just saying that you can't 100% trust the journal and if it's in the journal you can't assume you know everything about the ability. Another thing is frontal cones, does the mob track your position during the cast so you can't dodge it? Will it turn while channeling? These things have to be tested. The court boss says the storm damages all players but doesn't mention reduced damage at greater range even though other tooltips do mention that, like elerethe's vile ambush.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-29 22:37:05
September 29 2016 22:35 GMT
#3043
On September 30 2016 07:25 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2016 07:11 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 30 2016 07:09 NonY wrote:
On September 30 2016 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 30 2016 03:28 NonY wrote:
On September 30 2016 02:49 dae wrote:
On September 29 2016 22:00 NonY wrote:
If you handle the spawning the shades perfectly, this is what happens. (shades one side, everyone else the other)

the DoT damage is unavoidable though right? Like there's an animation that seems to indicate a range but you can't range it can you? so getting them stacked all on one side just helps with dodging the other ability (lines of smoke on the ground)



Dot damage is reduced if your out of the circle that he puts - or its just a certain distance away, up to 50% of the max damage it can do.

that's good to know. dungeon journal doesn't describe it properly

i had a pug raid group, like multiple people in it, absolutely insist that nyth does a tail swipe "because all dragons do a tail swipe" but i couldnt find it in the ability list in the dungeon journal, which doesn't actually mean that it doesnt happen. always gotta actually check/test what's actually happening instead of trusting the tooltips and dungeon journal

There is no tailswipe on Nyth.

yup. idk what they were thinking

I would hazard a guess it is because of the limited room and the even more limiting factor of poison pools. A tail swipe would have removed another 1/5 of the room from use.

I mean IDK what these pugs were thinking. It's not in the journal and anyone who looked at a guide or did the fight before would know. But there were literally three people who said there was a tail swipe and no one said otherwise. Still I was just saying that you can't 100% trust the journal and if it's in the journal you can't assume you know everything about the ability. Another thing is frontal cones, does the mob track your position during the cast so you can't dodge it? Will it turn while channeling? These things have to be tested. The court boss says the storm damages all players but doesn't mention reduced damage at greater range even though other tooltips do mention that, like elerethe's vile ambush.

In the Fat Boss video from alpha Nythendra has a tails swipe. I guess this is where they got it from.

Off-season = best season
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
September 29 2016 22:44 GMT
#3044
LFR Nythendra is a consistently amazing experience. One-tanking is fun
Writermaru pls
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 29 2016 22:58 GMT
#3045
LFR ilganyth was retarded. People dpsing the eye. Tank trying to tank the eye. Half the raid dying inside the room.

I don't ever want to LFR again.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
September 29 2016 23:01 GMT
#3046
They should put a level below LFR for people who don't want to research all the battles ahead of time. Maybe we can call it LFR lite or something like that. The only real problem I can see is people qualified to raid in the higher tiers giving LFR lite a try and then complaining that the players didn't know the mechanics ahead of time due to lack of researching all the battles.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 30 2016 00:52 GMT
#3047
gotta do LFR on reset day. smoother runs. scientifically proven
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
September 30 2016 01:11 GMT
#3048
all my bonus rolls in dragon has been gold so far. i fucking hate my life. i want the trinket so bad.
Skol
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 30 2016 02:15 GMT
#3049
FFffffuck doing m+10 at 5 am, shit's not easy >_< goddamn that double giant pull before the sea giant boss in EoA was harder than rest of the instance combined.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 04:20:15
September 30 2016 02:52 GMT
#3050
100% baseline mythic damage

200% after mythic10 modifier

280% after mythic10 trash damage affix

560% after enraging for double damage

affix that screws with healing

???

profit

They really nailed the "challenging" part and i think it'll be a while before we get our +15 keystone achievement



---

Some ST logs from today w/ best performing spec per class highlighted:

+ Show Spoiler +

Ursoc HC:
[image loading]

Nythendra mythic boss dmg:
[image loading]

It's not entirely fair as you absolutely can't switch specs on a whim and parsed DPS is not everything but i think it's important to spend some time looking at performance on a class by class basis rather than the spec by spec that many people seem to default to

And also.. ~96% of mages are fire on those Ursoc logs (4.8k mages) and under 1% are frost. Daaamn.

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 30 2016 12:14 GMT
#3051
You should look at the whole week for Nythendra though, since both nerf and mythic has been up the same time. And range classes/specs maybe should get discarded too. Still quite big difference between the top and pack.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 30 2016 12:24 GMT
#3052
On September 30 2016 11:52 Cyro wrote:
100% baseline mythic damage

200% after mythic10 modifier

280% after mythic10 trash damage affix

560% after enraging for double damage

affix that screws with healing

???

profit

They really nailed the "challenging" part and i think it'll be a while before we get our +15 keystone achievement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJVRgun7M7c&t=10s

---

Some ST logs from today w/ best performing spec per class highlighted:

+ Show Spoiler +

Ursoc HC:
[image loading]

Nythendra mythic boss dmg:
[image loading]

It's not entirely fair as you absolutely can't switch specs on a whim and parsed DPS is not everything but i think it's important to spend some time looking at performance on a class by class basis rather than the spec by spec that many people seem to default to

And also.. ~96% of mages are fire on those Ursoc logs (4.8k mages) and under 1% are frost. Daaamn.


There are only ~400 affliction lock parses on some fights.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 12:45:31
September 30 2016 12:29 GMT
#3053
I wonder what fraction of the fire mage representation is purely from it being the best performing spec versus how many people just genuinely enjoy it. It's probably a combination of the two because in the past you'd still see plenty of people turn up with the suboptimal specs, at the normal/heroic level at least. And those graphs above have multi-spec representation from the other classes even though some underperform.

I think fire is just a combo of great spec to play right now and also performing very well. I've been having a blast with it in Legion. It's always been my favorite of the three specs as a long time mage but there were certainly spans of time where I didn't play fire despite that because it was just lackluster or boring or whatever. Now it's really good and a pleasure to play imo, it's no wonder it's so popular. And I'm not going to be participating in any heroic/mythic parses any time soon lol. Even if they nerfed it a bit in some capacity I think there would still be a lot of representation. Arcane is probably close to being good as well, but frost is just awkward from the little bit I've tried it. Really couldn't mesh with it at all.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
September 30 2016 12:48 GMT
#3054
Is there an easy way to get order resources?

I'm only level 75, but I'm running out of them now because I can't play often and use the companion app a lot.
I mean, eventually I will out of rare mobs anyway, no?
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
September 30 2016 12:53 GMT
#3055
Pugged the first five bosses in heroic EN, got cenarius to 7 percent twice. Goddamn, that fight can be hella frustrating when dude spawns his cleansed trees in random places sometimes lol.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 30 2016 12:58 GMT
#3056
On September 30 2016 21:48 DickMcFanny wrote:
Is there an easy way to get order resources?

I'm only level 75, but I'm running out of them now because I can't play often and use the companion app a lot.
I mean, eventually I will out of rare mobs anyway, no?

Questing generally gives a lot, and world quests give a ton at 110. I assume you mean you're 105. The world quests are often to go find rare mobs and kill them (again).
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
September 30 2016 15:06 GMT
#3057
On September 30 2016 21:53 farvacola wrote:
Pugged the first five bosses in heroic EN, got cenarius to 7 percent twice. Goddamn, that fight can be hella frustrating when dude spawns his cleansed trees in random places sometimes lol.

We had that issue this week on heroic. Last week was consistent. The pull tree / mobs was wtf random on pull for some reason.

We got M Nythendra down... I think we are gonna do Ursoc next instead of Elerethe.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
September 30 2016 15:45 GMT
#3058
My guild also had issues when the cleanse pools wouldnt spawn where they were supposed to. But it was only normal.
Skol
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
September 30 2016 21:02 GMT
#3059
[image loading]
Is this beauty available for plebs or is it npc only?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-30 21:04:51
September 30 2016 21:04 GMT
#3060
You're looking for Stormrune Edge.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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