On February 08 2016 13:07 giftdgecko wrote:
Cam Newton still not good enough, so many missed opportunities and then throwing a tantrum at the end like it's 3 years ago.

I mean, he was good enough against every other defense in the league. You could probably roll the dice against next year and they'd still be favorites to win it all.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

February 08 2016 04:21 GMT

#5206

On February 08 2016 12:44 y0su wrote:
when's the 2016 thread going up?

I'll probably wait a few days while people discuss the super bowl and some offseason news before I go around making it. if someone else wants to make it though be my guest. I didn't really do anything in the OP in this thread anyway so if someone wants to be more on top of it like the soccer thread or something they can go ahead and do it.

QuanticHawk

United States32130 Posts

February 08 2016 04:33 GMT

#5207

On February 08 2016 11:31 Elurie wrote:
Pats pitiful offense with zero running game actually got more done couple weeks ago. I'm shocked.

And this Superbowl Babies commercial is creepy as hell.

act like seal dont make panties drop across the world

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

February 08 2016 04:53 GMT

#5208

On February 08 2016 13:07 giftdgecko wrote:
Cam Newton still not good enough, so many missed opportunities and then throwing a tantrum at the end like it's 3 years ago.

Cam had a bad game, but, really he needed a WR that could get open by running real routes (not Ted Ginn). Also, Karma means that Ted Ginn can never win a title, as he is now 0/3 in championship games NFL & College.

QuanticHawk

United States32130 Posts

February 08 2016 05:00 GMT

#5209

imagine this team with kelvin benjamin

i felt bad for cam right up until he bitched out on the strip fumble that was totally up for grabs.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

February 08 2016 05:11 GMT

#5210

How much do you guys buy into losing Benjamin helped Cam develop as a passer by being forced to use more options? I don't watch a ton of Panthers games so idk but I've read people say that. could just be people talking out their ass though

QuanticHawk

United States32130 Posts

February 08 2016 05:15 GMT

#5211

eh it's not like he was a 1 read go crap QB like Kap. He was always looking at other options, it just forced the playcalling to get a little more creative if anything imo

Grettin

42384 Posts

February 08 2016 05:59 GMT

#5212

Grats to Denver.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

February 08 2016 06:31 GMT

#5213

On February 08 2016 14:11 Shellshock wrote:
How much do you guys buy into losing Benjamin helped Cam develop as a passer by being forced to use more options? I don't watch a ton of Panthers games so idk but I've read people say that. could just be people talking out their ass though

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Honestly, this year is the Cam we would have expected (when he got drafted) had once he got used to the NFL. Obviously there was always the chance he would go Johnny Manziel on us or just be totally overwhelmed by defensive sophistication, but I think he still has a lot of room to grow. I don't buy the narrative that Cam is a frontrunner.

However, I do think that Cam has almost the perfect setup for an elite QB right now and it would be a mistake to try to give him more weapons. Brady and Manning and Wilson and Big Ben and Eli and Brees have all won their titles when their defense was sick, and for most of those the offense surrounding them was ok, but not great. But GMs get tricked into drafting offense to "surround" their QBs, while they should draft defense, and the occasional Offensive lineman.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

February 08 2016 06:43 GMT

#5214

Cam just couldn't beat the power of Disney. Arguably him + Luck (if he can recover properly) and Stafford are far and away the two best young QB's out there. If team management doesn't completely suck, I expect all of them to get rings.

EDIT: Also Jimmy Graham probably goes to bed and dreams of catching passes from Drew Brees. The trade may not have worked out great for the Saints, but it sure as hell didn't work for the Seahawks.

giftdgecko

United States2126 Posts

February 08 2016 07:16 GMT

#5215

I'll be curious these next few weeks just how much money von miller and norman get. Deep defenses about to go deep into the pockets of a few teams.

Cam probably has a similar offense next year but with benjamin, which is solid. That defense and line is more important to keep then to fish for another wr. His issues when he came in was reads and attitude (it's obvious when losing) iirc and he seems to have come a long way on his reads. He had his chances tonight, couldn't make the throws.

Odds on the NFC south going belly up again next year? I never know what to expect from that division...

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

February 08 2016 07:34 GMT

#5216

seeing a lot of Von Miller getting franchised tagged which would be around $14 mil next year I think. Then people saying he'll probably be the highest paid defensive player after that or at least close to it

y0su

Finland7871 Posts

February 08 2016 08:40 GMT

#5217

Cam was hit and hurried from the start. On the few plays that he might have actually had time he was expecting pressure. The run game didn't take any pressure off of him either.

sung_moon

United States10110 Posts

February 08 2016 13:33 GMT

#5218

I love the fact that Eli looked legit saddened that Peyton bought to win his 2nd Super Bowl too. No Eli has nothing over Peyton now

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

February 08 2016 13:45 GMT

#5219

On February 08 2016 22:33 sung_moon wrote:
I love the fact that Eli looked legit saddened that Peyton bought to win his 2nd Super Bowl too. No Eli has nothing over Peyton now

Feeling in his hands and feet?