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Intro
Normally I'm not an extrovert person but I was lying in bed last night after reading one of Nani's disheartened tweets and I thought I ought to say thank you to someone who has been an inspiration to me while I still can. The first draft I did for this I had initially written quite a lot but I have decided to condense it to what I think has been most important about Naniwa's career to me thus far.
The first time I watched live competitive starcraft 2 was the TSL (3?) with the finals being Thorzain vs Naniwa, at the time I was having no luck vs T and seeing someone do incredible things I'd never even thought possible blew my mind. Even though Naniwa lost that final you could feel him caring through the game, of course seen through the infamous "chill - out" moment. Ever since then I've followed competitive starcraft but particularly every competitive match of Naniwa's I could find time for.
Following The Story
Since TSL what has been the most impressive thing about Naniwa is his consistency to perform at the highest level, from winning MLG to making serious runs in GSL then on to some of the most heart racing moments at Dreamhack I've ever had the pleasure to witness. The effort put into each game was tangible even to low level players like myself, each game strategically thought-out in advance, he showed he cared so much more than anyone else when he played and that's what makes a starcraft player truly exciting. This can be seen no instance better than if he loses. To draw comparison to another player one can look at Liquid'HerO physically shaking after each loss, similarly Naniwa after losing a (close) final at Dreamhack, was crushed. He made me care and rather than dismiss it as "a good run for a foreigner" it made me even more excited to watch the next tournament he would compete in because he had a legitimate chance to take it and you knew he cared.
Perhaps the most perfect thing about supporting/cheering Naniwa is, in fact, his imperfections. Watching him fight against his nature to speak his mind makes him even more amazing to follow as you can witness a person not only improving in the thing he loves, but improving himself. This makes him a polarising player with two sides, one loving him, one ..not so much. Regardless of which side you happen to fall on one can't argue that he is an important person for game
What I Wanted to Say
So Finally I've gotten to what I wanted to say, simply I just wanted to say thank you to someone who has provided me with so much entertainment and devoting so much to starcraft 2. While I know demuslim and Naniwa don't see eye-to-eye I thought it was admirable and sound advice from demuslim to suggest taking a break for a while and I sincerely hope that is decision Naniwa comes to (or at worst comes back when LOTV comes out). Whatever the decision he makes, if I were to put my selfish wishes aside, I want Naniwa to pursue something that he enjoys because, after putting in so much effort, he deserves it.
To end on a quote from Liquid'HerO's twitter (not the most profound source but I think very apt): "just enjoy"
Thank you Naniwa 
Maybe other people have players that they follow and have really been moved by them so let them know while you can.
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I couldn't agree more with the idea of this. Give the players more credit for beeing awsome personalities.
I am a great fanboy of the 2 kings of the north and the TSL3 Final game between Thorzain and Nani is one of my best memories of Starcraft!
GOGO NANI
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I agree. I get heartbroken every time I watch that video when NaNiwa loses at Dreamhack and walks away on his own, with noone cheering him up or anything. I hope people are there to support him in dark times like these. I sincerely hope he finds his motivation again, perhaps by the 10'000 screaming people in the audience of IEM.
Thank you NaNiwa for all the entertainment you've given us. I hope it isn't over yet!
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I remember the first time I saw him playing at a big tournament. He did well back then, and stayed on a high level ever since.
And after some time I came to the conclusion that we need more controversial people like Naniwa in the (mostly) boring esport scene. People like him make it fun to watch for people who want to learn from watching those games aswell as people who just watch for fun.
Gl in what comes next Naniwa.
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Isn't this what fan clubs are for?
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I have to agree with everytihing here. I've been so impressed with Naniwa over the years. The way he have planned out all of his games and beat so many koreans. His dedication have always been unquestionable. Thank you for all you've done Nani!
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TLADT24920 Posts
When I first read the title, I thought Naniwa was thanking the fan and I thought that was sweet lol. I was disappointed to see that it wasn't the case XD
On March 15 2014 00:33 sitromit wrote:
Isn't this what fan clubs are for?
pretty much this or blogs, not that there's anything with thanking a player.
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Naniwa basically saying "I don't even want to try" to everyone's face in IEM right now.
Not what I call sportmanship...
lol@Nerchio up my post
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This feels bloggish. Strike that, this is bloggish.
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On March 15 2014 00:58 Nerchio wrote:
Thank you naniwa hehehe
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but I sincerely hope its not.
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On March 15 2014 01:05 docvoc wrote:I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but I sincerely hope its not.
It's Nerchio, what do you think it is?
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Apocalyptic end to a great career...Best of luck
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I was more a fan of the way the Polish crowd thanked him. 
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You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
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On March 15 2014 01:05 docvoc wrote:I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but I sincerely hope its not.
I think the "hehehe" kinda tells... I don't think our community's thank is needed, he played for himself and had a lot of success, he never considered the fans and acted passive aggressive on many occasions like today.
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On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
Honestly, I've never seen booing more fitting than here.
He pissed off the fans.
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On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
That wasn't enough imo
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Oh god that was shameful. He could've at least played the games instead of blaming some made-up issues. Not the way of a champion.
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On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
Naniwa is the one at fault here, He just exploited his invitation for a free hotel. If he had any manners he would've conceded his invitation.
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Thank you Naniwa. You took a spot from a good willing player to throw it because you have mental issues.
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Such a shame, such a waste of a slot that so many fought hard in Open Bracket.
What a disgrace to Esports.
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Naniwa fighting! He was a great foreign protoss that gave his all in everything he played in.
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people should have booed him off stages long before.
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A really fitting ending for such a player.
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This thread might become the biggest train wreck on TL.
I'm sad Naniwa decided to end his career the way he did. But it's his choice. One of the biggest names in sc2 gone now.
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On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
Actually, this time around, it was well deserved. He basically wasted the slot he got in the tournament.
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Please don't derail this into a shit-on-Naniwa thread, this thread is OP's and it's about OP's experiences and feelings =/ Be nice.
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It's not an ending, I'm sure he'll come back again and do reasonably well in another foreign weekend tournament with a few new all ins, before the cycle repeats.
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You guys can stare yourselves blind on this particular event all you want. Of course he shouldn't have forfeit his games, everyone knows that. But I doubt he came to this tournament to win it, probably just show some fun games (which he failed in doing) and have a good time with friends.
But I can't understand that you're forgetting that no other foreigner has done as much for Starcraft as NaNiwa has. He's the best one we've had, and this whole thing is unfortunate, but I can't see how people can get so blind by this thing.
Oh well
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Naa na naa naa na na naa, heyyy heyy heyyy, goodbyeee!
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On March 15 2014 01:18 DrPandaPhD wrote:
This thread might become the biggest train wreck on TL.
I'm sad Naniwa decided to end his career the way he did. But it's his choice. One of the biggest names in sc2 gone now.
You shall be sad that he didn't finish himself earlier than Round of 16.
No sportsmanship, that's not only hurting those who didn't get in the top 16, but also hurt fans, hurt IEM, and hurt Starcraft in general.
He is worse than Idra, period!
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It's prolly good for him to quit for a while.
it's sad that he decided to forfeit but hey...
i guess he kinda deserved the booing, these people paid to see matches, player has to deliver.
gg wp, gl in the future nani
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Meh. All i remember of naniwa is bm, excuses(ALWAYS tweeting about his mouse/keyboard not working when he loses), hard work, and talent. It's a shame that all that hard work/talent went into somebody with a persona(i think this is the right word?) like him instead of somebody who could carry it better
On the other hand, i recall him saying his parents disowned him when he decided pursuing gaming. Is this true? If yes then i wonder what he will do now, with no life skills and not being able to return to his parents.
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Can somebody explain to me what happened with Naniwa regarding the recent tournament/his exit?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
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I hope that he never come back.
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I hope shares with us how much EG paid him to go out with the biggest drama factor ever.
I'm not saying they wanted him to forfeit a game he could win, but I'm sure they
a) urged him to go to the tourney instead of retiring beforehand
b) urged him to go out with a bang
They paid IdrA to be a drama-factory for years, so naturally that works for Naniwa as well.
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Maybe he's not a good player(for now), but he's always a man with great charisma. Happy bithday Nani, and wish you all good luck.
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On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
You don't whine/bitch/bm in a game against Polt with thousands of people watching and then forfeit the series, no matter what. Not nice, Naniwa.
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He plays sick sc2, but he has shown bad attitude and personality too often. Nothing to admire as a person imo...
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On March 15 2014 01:37 Penguinator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans. You don't whine/bitch/bm in a game against Polt with thousands of people watching and then forfeit the series, no matter what. Not nice, Naniwa.
That's not true. Whining about soundproofing is legitimate whine. I still don't think he should have forfeited, but we also don't know what was said between admins and NaNiwa.
You still don't boo the best foreigner Starcraft II has ever had off stage on his birthday. Show some gratitude for god's sake, he's done more for the Starcraft game that we all love than any of us or any of you.
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What? It's his birthday even? Jesus Crucifixion Gangbang Christ, what a day for the guy...
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For god's sake all these comments saying what a shame and whatnot are ridiculous. Then it might just be a mark of my apathy towards the game - but he earned that slot.
He worked harder than most everyone else. You cannot deny the results Naniwa has had.
And if he has decided that he dislikes the game (amen) I'm glad he has the balls to leave instead of torturing himself.
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On March 15 2014 01:20 sd_andeh wrote:
You guys can stare yourselves blind on this particular event all you want. Of course he shouldn't have forfeit his games, everyone knows that. But I doubt he came to this tournament to win it, probably just show some fun games (which he failed in doing) and have a good time with friends.
But I can't understand that you're forgetting that no other foreigner has done as much for Starcraft as NaNiwa has. He's the best one we've had, and this whole thing is unfortunate, but I can't see how people can get so blind by this thing.
Oh well
Pretty ironic that you use blind so many times in this post.
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On March 15 2014 01:39 sd_andeh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 01:37 Penguinator wrote:On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans. You don't whine/bitch/bm in a game against Polt with thousands of people watching and then forfeit the series, no matter what. Not nice, Naniwa. That's not true. Whining about soundproofing is legitimate whine. I still don't think he should have forfeited, but we also don't know what was said between admins and NaNiwa. You still don't boo the best foreigner Starcraft II has ever had off stage on his birthday. Show some gratitude for god's sake, he's done more for the Starcraft game that we all love than any of us or any of you.
No one is booing Stephano here.
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On March 15 2014 01:44 Shortizz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 01:20 sd_andeh wrote:
You guys can stare yourselves blind on this particular event all you want. Of course he shouldn't have forfeit his games, everyone knows that. But I doubt he came to this tournament to win it, probably just show some fun games (which he failed in doing) and have a good time with friends.
But I can't understand that you're forgetting that no other foreigner has done as much for Starcraft as NaNiwa has. He's the best one we've had, and this whole thing is unfortunate, but I can't see how people can get so blind by this thing.
Oh well Pretty ironic that you use blind so many times in this post.
I am not blind to NaNiwa's bitching, don't worry. I still love him as a player though, and I don't wish being boo'd off stage on their birthday on anyone, be it NaNiwa, Stephano, IdrA or whoever.
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On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
It was totally deserved for how he acted.
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On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
Fuck I missed it... that scrub deserved it.
Byebye Naniwa, don't come back.
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Like i said in the article, he is a polarising player and it makes it exciting as a spectator to watch. having said that his actions were unfortunate but demuslim made an excellent tweet earlier saying that he should not have been playing in that condition anyway. point of this was to thank someone who has been inspirational, not really to debate about whether you like or dislike nani. regards to the "he played for himself" I'm well aware of this, in fact i think he said so on itmejp's interview with him, but that doesn't mean that I can't say thank you for enjoying his work.
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On March 15 2014 01:11 sd_andeh wrote:
You don't boo a player off stage, no matter what. Not nice, Polish fans.
Not only polish fans would have boo him out.
He was being disrespectful to the whole tournament and just forfeits which is just hugely disrespectful to anyone watching the games and anyone who has tried so very hard just for his spot.
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On March 15 2014 01:48 sd_andeh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 01:44 Shortizz wrote:On March 15 2014 01:20 sd_andeh wrote:
You guys can stare yourselves blind on this particular event all you want. Of course he shouldn't have forfeit his games, everyone knows that. But I doubt he came to this tournament to win it, probably just show some fun games (which he failed in doing) and have a good time with friends.
But I can't understand that you're forgetting that no other foreigner has done as much for Starcraft as NaNiwa has. He's the best one we've had, and this whole thing is unfortunate, but I can't see how people can get so blind by this thing.
Oh well Pretty ironic that you use blind so many times in this post. I am not blind to NaNiwa's bitching, don't worry. I still love him as a player though, and I don't wish being boo'd off stage on their birthday on anyone, be it NaNiwa, Stephano, IdrA or whoever.
It doesn't matter if it is his birthday or not. This is a tournament and competition. Such a poor showing from Naniwa regardless. If all he came to do is show fun games and not try to win, then why he is there? Forfeit his spot if that is all he is going to do. It's like he didn't even try, which is the worst thing. It also doesn't matter what he has done for SC2, what he did there at that time, was/is incredibly disappointing.
Those boos were because of the poor showing and the poor sportsmanship that Naniwa showed. I would say they are deserved especially from the fans that came to see him. Again it does not matter if it was his birthday or not. Any sports fan for any sport would boo for that kind of showing.
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I will miss Naniwa, he made me laugh many times. Yes he could be a douche but he provided entertainment and at least he was one of the few foreigners in the last couple of years who when he goes to tournies you feel like he can progress and take a series or two from top Koreans. Unlike a lot of other foreign "pros" who are usually just making up the numbers in the group stages.
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Germany25657 Posts
Closing this thread before it becomes baaaaaaaaad.
Feel free to post this in his fan club thought, it is a fine post, it is just getting ruined by what just happened -.-
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