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On September 17 2006 03:59 baal wrote:
apparently you cant tell the difference between a prank (faking to be a girl cybering, like that ninja dude and his wizard robe) and sickening twisted mentally disturbed behaviou for 5 years.
i would love him to reveal dirty secrets tho :3
Oh come on. Like you Baal don't like sick and twisted shit? I mean... so he was really quite sad enough to lie for half a decade on his identity. I say cool, go be an actor. #1 black artist on TL net is ZIa. Props are due imo.
And Steve, if you pieced it together and what not while on staff, I will never look at you the same. I never thought you were so undercover detective~ chogosu~ Sugo. I just think everyone is really overreacting althought I guess people who were close for 5 years could be hit hard and be like whoa. Still... -_-;; It's internet Zia. ... lol I just can't relate cept have fun at this stuff. Maybe I'm just a horrible person.
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BingBong no I think his name is Teemu. Adam isn't a Finnish name anyways. But from what I know, the only interest we share is metal.
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Belgium6766 Posts
Dude adam is this you?
edit: Oh and I mean the guy on the right, duh.
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What ever fuckhead that posted that he isn't a man is right now invited to go to a gaybar with me.
Next thing. I feel good for you that you have well.. conquered yourself to finally tell us this. I therefore like you. you have balls. however I think you need to get help for this, cause this is a serieus matter. I will tell you right here, right now that you have my support if you want to share your difficulties with us. However visit a shrink.
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I can't believe people actually care about this guy and his pathetic life.
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On September 17 2006 10:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
Finally, the truth comes out!!!
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
Although I do not know your personality, I think someone who gets 'caught in the act' lying should just really give it up. You being a stable person; already knew some of the consequences that this 'double' life might lead you into. Personally I'd feel very embarrassed or degraded if this were to happen to me. Perhaps this was your way to get out of depression or suicide, if so then yes this action was a better choice than suicide. However I'd think you'd release if you did have these problems you'd get some professional help or look for some and not continue on this pseudo pursuit.
A dilemma I have though is how you come to think that apologizing is enough to clean your slate, and no one can have the right to say "you are blah blah blah" or w/e. Being humble as you said means you will not fight these words, you don't have to accept them but don't put in your pride. I know it is probably very hard to but if you want to be humble about it, then you have to swallow and not spit.
Further actions regarding ban or not ban is up to the admins. But I think that these 'gossips/rumors' IcedEarth holds shouldn't set them back or block their train of thought. No one is perfect, so don't be afraid if you are in the gossip. My personal advice to IcedEarth is to not fight the comments and suggestions to defend yourself, but to answer and be honest. I can see how your reaction right away was to make amends and get everything clear, but now it is the time to answer and let everyone think about it and have their say. You can't blame them since 5 years they were led to think something, but now it wasn't as it seemed.
Lots of interesting reads though, good luck.
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On September 17 2006 09:52 Asho wrote:
What ever fuckhead that posted that he isn't a man is right now invited to go to a gaybar with me.
Next thing. I feel good for you that you have well.. conquered yourself to finally tell us this. I therefore like you. you have balls. however I think you need to get help for this, cause this is a serieus matter. I will tell you right here, right now that you have my support if you want to share your difficulties with us. However visit a shrink.
This is an intersting sight, just tell me what he would need to visit a shrink 
For me it's just something he has done because he found it funny. I really don't know why he would me mad, if he enjoys playing a role then I don't know why he should'nt do it.
Do you realize that you guyz think he is mad, and that almost every single person watching TV programs on "GAMING ADDICTS" are persuaded that we ALL ARE FUCKED UP IN OUR HEADS!
Yeah They do judge you and me without knowing us, and that dude it's called racism !
Don't judge someone you don't know :/ your mother never told you that ?
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Uhh I just want to know exactly why Manifesto got suspicious and ran the IP check or whatever to bust this dude.
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On September 17 2006 09:40 IcedEarth wrote:
Oh and seriously, textual flames don't affect me. Anything that you say involving that just washes over.
I don't even know about "Zia" until your post that thread about your busted knees. I also didn't pick up the fact that you were supposed to be female until i've read through about 3-4 pages. I felt very sorry for "Zia", but beyond that I wasn't in the least bit invested in, much less hurt by, the character you made up.
However, I think you definitely ought to be banned, simply because you DON'T care about text in a world where it is the only medium of exchange. What makes TL net so great is the fact that we are a community of mostly sensible and honest people, behavior that comes from acting as we would most do in real life, and from CARING about our e-actions and persona. This great community is built upon the meaning within those "useless text". You have denied that, and by doing so denied the community.
P.S.: I thought at first (and part of me still does) that it would be cool to keep IcedEarth around and that it would make TL a even more varied and fun place than other forums. But no amount of novelty is worth the indiginity of this. Please ban him.
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
On September 17 2006 10:23 X_LiNe wrote:
So he made up something a lot more complicated than you or I did but it's all the same because it's THE INTERNET and because we are all playing a role at different levels.
This isn't an mmorpg, so what if it is the Internet. You can do the same in life go get a makeover and act like whatsoever. I dislike how since it is the Internet you and go around everywhere and do whatever you want. Why don't you be a rebel somewhere else, if you'd have the guts to do it only online then well sorry you aren't what you are. However there is a difference between actually seeing yourself as a girl then giving a persona of one. When you make a post or write something up you think of it in your head, and that is the difference. The problem is not so much you can't see how you look, but you believe in what you write.
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On September 17 2006 10:23 X_LiNe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2006 08:43 zergc1 wrote:
Icedearth i dont want to judge what you ve done or what kind or person you are because it will be useless and i have absolutely no clue about it.
Nevertheless I have one question to ask you : Why do you insist to stay here at TL.net while almost 99,9% think you are a sick mother fucker ?
Thats what i really dont understand... imo forget teamliquid and BW is the best choice for you.
Well I think that your 99,9% thing is overestimated. The only ones who can be mad at him are the ones who actualy knew zia. And I really don't think that zia knew 99,9% of this forum... If he has never done anything bad to you then just shut up you don't have the right to judge someone you don't know, that's all. And by the way every one here is playing a role on the internet and don't try to tell me i'm wrong, that's true. You're trying to act different than you are in real life and it's easy just because no one can see you and no one know you. IRL every one is judging every one just by what they look like etc... while it's not the case on the internet. So you act totaly different. I'm not the same, you're not the same, eri is not the same, mondragon isnt the same etc... And I can tell you that this guy is probably as normal as you are. The only difference between you and him is that he made up an entire character while you just made up for yourself a new style. So he made up something a lot more complicated than you or I did but it's all the same because it's THE INTERNET and because we are all playing a role at different levels. PS : And i'm sorry but for the one who say that his brain is all fucked up (I first said it on the last thread and I regret it) because he pretented to be someone else for 4/5 years then just watch carefuly yourself in the mirror i'm pretty sure that more than 50% or you on this forum (including me ) spent on the internet at least 3//4 hours/day for 4 5 years  For me a guy who's spending his time speaking on this forum (or playing or surfing on the net) and a guy who is pretending to be someone else to have fun it's pretty much the same thing. Grow up and stop judging people especially when you look like them ps : Sorry for my fucked up english 
assuming you are acting a different way on the internet your post pretending to be your own point of view on this situation is just a fake opinion based on your fake internet personnality. right?
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Internet is a HUGE MMORPG =]
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Hi adam, you are a homo.
Serious question though. Were you ever involved in a relationship and what kind of relation was it. Man to man or man to woman or other? If it's other please specify.
Im curious.
Btw intothewow skips college around 2 pm so he can walk at the streets. At 2pm the high schools in argentina are out so he passes college girls at the way home. Sometimes when he sees an attractive girl he walks after her and starts to make a conversation by scraping his throat to get attention first.Also he sometimes just stalks them all the way home so he can wait there in the morning, then he can watch them walk to school as well. One time wow got the attention of a girl and they ended up having sex, she was only 14.
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On September 17 2006 10:33 zergc1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2006 10:23 X_LiNe wrote:On September 17 2006 08:43 zergc1 wrote:
Icedearth i dont want to judge what you ve done or what kind or person you are because it will be useless and i have absolutely no clue about it.
Nevertheless I have one question to ask you : Why do you insist to stay here at TL.net while almost 99,9% think you are a sick mother fucker ?
Thats what i really dont understand... imo forget teamliquid and BW is the best choice for you.
Well I think that your 99,9% thing is overestimated. The only ones who can be mad at him are the ones who actualy knew zia. And I really don't think that zia knew 99,9% of this forum... If he has never done anything bad to you then just shut up you don't have the right to judge someone you don't know, that's all. And by the way every one here is playing a role on the internet and don't try to tell me i'm wrong, that's true. You're trying to act different than you are in real life and it's easy just because no one can see you and no one know you. IRL every one is judging every one just by what they look like etc... while it's not the case on the internet. So you act totaly different. I'm not the same, you're not the same, eri is not the same, mondragon isnt the same etc... And I can tell you that this guy is probably as normal as you are. The only difference between you and him is that he made up an entire character while you just made up for yourself a new style. So he made up something a lot more complicated than you or I did but it's all the same because it's THE INTERNET and because we are all playing a role at different levels. PS : And i'm sorry but for the one who say that his brain is all fucked up (I first said it on the last thread and I regret it) because he pretented to be someone else for 4/5 years then just watch carefuly yourself in the mirror i'm pretty sure that more than 50% or you on this forum (including me ) spent on the internet at least 3//4 hours/day for 4 5 years For me a guy who's spending his time speaking on this forum (or playing or surfing on the net) and a guy who is pretending to be someone else to have fun it's pretty much the same thing. Grow up and stop judging people especially when you look like them ps : Sorry for my fucked up english assuming you are acting a different way on the internet your post presuming to be your own point of view on this situation is just a fake opinion based on your fake internet personnality. right?
Funny guy, i've never asked you to agree with me =]
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On September 17 2006 10:23 X_LiNe wrote:
Well I think that your 99,9% thing is overestimated. The only ones who can be mad at him are the ones who actualy knew zia. And I really don't think that zia knew 99,9% of this forum...
If he has never done anything bad to you then just shut up you don't have the right to judge someone you don't know, that's all.
One can only hope that people as clueless as you aren't allowed on juries 
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Belgium6766 Posts
If he has never done anything bad to you then just shut up you don't have the right to judge someone you don't know, that's all.
So I dont have the right to judge say .... george bush because I dont know him personally or he hasn't directly changed anything in my life.
Right. Get it straight son,people can judge whoever the hell they want. Especially when its a person who has spent 5 years in a community you're involved with lying 100% about who he/she is. This isnt "roleplaying" anymore.
Oh and I've never spoken to "zia" before in my life. But that doesnt change the fact that I'm sickened by this. I feel appaled by people who do not care or defend.
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Belgium6766 Posts
Funny guy, i've never asked you to agree with me =]
You're a dork. Stay out of topics if you're gonna defend your statement with something like that.
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