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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 22:25:11
March 14 2014 22:08 GMT
#6041
On March 15 2014 06:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yeah man, you got to hate those ethnically different people living in their homeland with their free money, yet decide to move to cities as migrant workers living in horrible conditions in the same country. Can't have that! Don't come or else there will be problems.


It was so bad that i almost laughed.

They're ethnically different? Yes, i have nothing against it.
They live in their homeland? Yes, i have nothing against it.
With their free money? There is a common joke in Russia when we're speaking about regions who're getting 100% donated from budget. Once after Terek's game in RFPL (club from Grozny, capital of Chechnya republic), journalist asked Ramzan Kadyrov (president of Chechnya and Terek as well) about where are they getting money from.
You know what did Ramzan answer? "Allah gives money to us".

No, you don't understand. Big amount of those Chechens/Northern Caucasian guys who cause chaos in Moscow and St.Petersburg (there's way less) are kids of senior officials who thinks that they're kings of this land and because of it they can say "fuck the rules i will do like i want". But migrant workers are here as well, and i'm not sure about horrible conditions and do they really care about it because there is law about amount of possible prescribed residents in one flat and it's definitely not 40-50 as much as i know our laws.

On March 15 2014 06:27 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
I always thought that it's reasonable advice. If you come to work, you at least can understand language and you're peaceful guy, then it's one case.


On this part, i'm with you. Immigration without integration is a stupid thing. And yes, that's a big political problem in germany as well, i suppose it is everywhere. I wouldn't say we don't like "alot of migrants", we just don't like the leeches, as you do, as far as i understood you.


Thank God, someone can understand it and not call me as xenophobic cunt.
I'm scared what could happen if it wasn't thread about Ukraine but about something like gay rights lol.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 22:14:00
March 14 2014 22:11 GMT
#6042
I'm scared what could happen if it wasn't thread about Ukraine but about something like gay rights lol.


I'm all for it (gay rights). /thread.

edit

More reasons for Russia to come in and `protect its compatriots'.


Small summary what happened? Who attacked what, in specific, since the only sense i could make of some things is "bandera", since something gets translated into "Baender" (which would mean "strings" in germany, but this refers to one of the groups, so it most likely won't make sense).
On track to MA1950A.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 22:20:54
March 14 2014 22:20 GMT
#6043
If i understood stuff correctly about Kharkiv, Right Sector tried to kinda ambush defenders of Kharkiv (pro-Russian guys i assume).
Right now Right Sector did retreat but said they won't surrender according to VK pages.

Btw, about Firtasch who appeared few pages before.
He got released by 125 millions euro pledge in Vienna.

http://www.vedomosti.ru/companies/news/24011311/firtash-osvobozhden-pod-zalog-v-125-mln-evro

On March 15 2014 07:11 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'm scared what could happen if it wasn't thread about Ukraine but about something like gay rights lol.


I'm all for it (gay rights). /thread.


No, thanks, lol.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 22:32:00
March 14 2014 22:31 GMT
#6044
On March 15 2014 07:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
If i understood stuff correctly about Kharkiv, Right Sector tried to kinda ambush defenders of Kharkiv (pro-Russian guys i assume).
Right now Right Sector did retreat but said they won't surrender according to VK pages.

Btw, about Firtasch who appeared few pages before.
He got released by 125 millions euro pledge in Vienna.

http://www.vedomosti.ru/companies/news/24011311/firtash-osvobozhden-pod-zalog-v-125-mln-evro

Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 07:11 m4ini wrote:
I'm scared what could happen if it wasn't thread about Ukraine but about something like gay rights lol.


I'm all for it (gay rights). /thread.


No, thanks, lol.


Can anyone find any more links about Kharkiv? A lot of different statements being thrown out. Nothing I would be able to verify.

+ Show Spoiler +











Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 14 2014 22:35 GMT
#6045
On March 15 2014 07:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 07:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
If i understood stuff correctly about Kharkiv, Right Sector tried to kinda ambush defenders of Kharkiv (pro-Russian guys i assume).
Right now Right Sector did retreat but said they won't surrender according to VK pages.

Btw, about Firtasch who appeared few pages before.
He got released by 125 millions euro pledge in Vienna.

http://www.vedomosti.ru/companies/news/24011311/firtash-osvobozhden-pod-zalog-v-125-mln-evro

On March 15 2014 07:11 m4ini wrote:
I'm scared what could happen if it wasn't thread about Ukraine but about something like gay rights lol.


I'm all for it (gay rights). /thread.


No, thanks, lol.


Can anyone find any more links about Kharkiv? A lot of different statements being thrown out. Nothing I would be able to verify.

+ Show Spoiler +


https://twitter.com/Ukroblogger/status/444600501234315265
https://twitter.com/SofiyaKatsunova/status/444600564736094209
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/444600559283474433
https://twitter.com/UkraineInEurope/status/444597963659436032
https://twitter.com/edwardlucas/status/444138177084010496
https://twitter.com/WeAreUkraine/status/444585978427355136



https://twitter.com/buritomexicano1/status/444601093319049218


http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1047523
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 14 2014 22:46 GMT
#6046
On March 15 2014 07:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 07:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
On March 15 2014 07:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
If i understood stuff correctly about Kharkiv, Right Sector tried to kinda ambush defenders of Kharkiv (pro-Russian guys i assume).
Right now Right Sector did retreat but said they won't surrender according to VK pages.

Btw, about Firtasch who appeared few pages before.
He got released by 125 millions euro pledge in Vienna.

http://www.vedomosti.ru/companies/news/24011311/firtash-osvobozhden-pod-zalog-v-125-mln-evro

On March 15 2014 07:11 m4ini wrote:
I'm scared what could happen if it wasn't thread about Ukraine but about something like gay rights lol.


I'm all for it (gay rights). /thread.


No, thanks, lol.


Can anyone find any more links about Kharkiv? A lot of different statements being thrown out. Nothing I would be able to verify.

+ Show Spoiler +


https://twitter.com/Ukroblogger/status/444600501234315265
https://twitter.com/SofiyaKatsunova/status/444600564736094209
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/444600559283474433
https://twitter.com/UkraineInEurope/status/444597963659436032
https://twitter.com/edwardlucas/status/444138177084010496
https://twitter.com/WeAreUkraine/status/444585978427355136



https://twitter.com/buritomexicano1/status/444601093319049218


http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1047523


Russian media seems to have been ready for this.



Other media is starting to cover it now:

http://www.unian.net/politics/896718-v-harkove-prorossiyskie-molodchiki-gromyat-ofis-prosvityi-slyishnyi-vyistrelyi-dva-cheloveka-pogibli-obnovlyaetsya.html
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 22:49:42
March 14 2014 22:49 GMT
#6047
On March 15 2014 07:46 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 07:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 15 2014 07:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
On March 15 2014 07:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
If i understood stuff correctly about Kharkiv, Right Sector tried to kinda ambush defenders of Kharkiv (pro-Russian guys i assume).
Right now Right Sector did retreat but said they won't surrender according to VK pages.

Btw, about Firtasch who appeared few pages before.
He got released by 125 millions euro pledge in Vienna.

http://www.vedomosti.ru/companies/news/24011311/firtash-osvobozhden-pod-zalog-v-125-mln-evro

On March 15 2014 07:11 m4ini wrote:
I'm scared what could happen if it wasn't thread about Ukraine but about something like gay rights lol.


I'm all for it (gay rights). /thread.


No, thanks, lol.


Can anyone find any more links about Kharkiv? A lot of different statements being thrown out. Nothing I would be able to verify.

+ Show Spoiler +


https://twitter.com/Ukroblogger/status/444600501234315265
https://twitter.com/SofiyaKatsunova/status/444600564736094209
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/444600559283474433
https://twitter.com/UkraineInEurope/status/444597963659436032
https://twitter.com/edwardlucas/status/444138177084010496
https://twitter.com/WeAreUkraine/status/444585978427355136



https://twitter.com/buritomexicano1/status/444601093319049218


http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1047523


Russian media seems to have been ready for this.

https://twitter.com/OS1954/status/444603682588725248

Other media is starting to cover it now:

http://www.unian.net/politics/896718-v-harkove-prorossiyskie-molodchiki-gromyat-ofis-prosvityi-slyishnyi-vyistrelyi-dva-cheloveka-pogibli-obnovlyaetsya.html


Lifenews is one of the most unreliable sources in whole country lmfao.
Absolute yellow press.
How do anyone still read them? And mainly - believe.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 14 2014 22:51 GMT
#6048
RT also already reporting on it.




News ready before eye-witness reports?

First signals from local officials:

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 22:58:38
March 14 2014 22:57 GMT
#6049
Helen Mess
Ohio, USA

lol, keep up the brilliant sources, I'm sure espreso tv is very non-biased.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 14 2014 23:01 GMT
#6050
On March 15 2014 07:57 zeo wrote:
Helen Mess
Ohio, USA

lol, keep up the brilliant sources, I'm sure espreso tv is very non-biased.


What the fuck does it matter which of the 100 identical tweets linking to espreso.tv I linked?

And your snide comments are at least consistent, but I don't think you'll find that the governor of Kharkiv did NOT say that. Or do you think he did not?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 14 2014 23:01 GMT
#6051
[image loading]

That's pic from VK's community it seems.
Misanthropic division is part of Right Sector to clarify.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 14 2014 23:03 GMT
#6052
Just for Zeo:





Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 14 2014 23:05 GMT
#6053

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
March 14 2014 23:07 GMT
#6054
Euromaidan PR is hardly a non-biased source, as for these Prosvita fellows wikipedia says they are some sort of Rusophile organization from Lviv.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 14 2014 23:09 GMT
#6055
It seems that there were some pro-Russian separatists, according to Metallist Kharkiv ultras.
But noone really sure because police don't touch them as well.

Also they're not sure about were there some victims or no.
That's kinda it.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
March 14 2014 23:17 GMT
#6056
On March 15 2014 08:07 zeo wrote:
Euromaidan PR is hardly a non-biased source, as for these Prosvita fellows wikipedia says they are some sort of Rusophile organization from Lviv.


So based on that we agree that basically every statement of rt.com has to be disregarded until further investigation, correct?
On track to MA1950A.
kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 23:21:24
March 14 2014 23:20 GMT
#6057
On March 15 2014 08:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
[image loading]

That's pic from VK's community it seems.
Misanthropic division is part of Right Sector to clarify.


So the Right sector poster is saying looks like we got two of them, everyone ok on our side.
Am I reading this right?
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
March 14 2014 23:20 GMT
#6058
On March 15 2014 08:17 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 08:07 zeo wrote:
Euromaidan PR is hardly a non-biased source, as for these Prosvita fellows wikipedia says they are some sort of Rusophile organization from Lviv.


So based on that we agree that basically every statement of rt.com has to be disregarded until further investigation, correct?

And every statement that is not from RT should also be disregarded, yes, both should be disregarded.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 23:24:33
March 14 2014 23:23 GMT
#6059
On March 15 2014 08:20 kukarachaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 08:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
[image loading]

That's pic from VK's community it seems.
Misanthropic division is part of Right Sector to clarify.


So the Right sector poster is saying looks like we got two of them, everyone ok on our side.
Am I reading this right?


Right.

On March 15 2014 08:17 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 08:07 zeo wrote:
Euromaidan PR is hardly a non-biased source, as for these Prosvita fellows wikipedia says they are some sort of Rusophile organization from Lviv.


So based on that we agree that basically every statement of rt.com has to be disregarded until further investigation, correct?


To be completely fair, RT was always considered as pro-government source.
But it seems, they're trying to be better.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 23:30:36
March 14 2014 23:24 GMT
#6060
On March 15 2014 08:20 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 08:17 m4ini wrote:
On March 15 2014 08:07 zeo wrote:
Euromaidan PR is hardly a non-biased source, as for these Prosvita fellows wikipedia says they are some sort of Rusophile organization from Lviv.


So based on that we agree that basically every statement of rt.com has to be disregarded until further investigation, correct?

And every statement that is not from RT should also be disregarded, yes, both should be disregarded.


Okay, i'll keep that in mind.

To be completely fair, RT was always considered as pro-government source.
But it seems, they're trying to be better.


Yeah, i know that a state-funded television-channel is not the source of information, but many of the discussions in the last 300+ pages were based on articles from there (just recently by MikeMM, citing it in regard of the language-law, turning out to be bullshit as well).

This will make future arguments easier to solve, if even zeo admits that rt as a source is completely pointless.
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