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EiBmoZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada235 Posts
July 20 2013 03:58 GMT
#121
drew doughty won a norris trophy?
EiBmoZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada235 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 05:36:34
July 20 2013 04:21 GMT
#122
On July 20 2013 12:52 Sub40APM wrote:
Drew Doughty is still considered as a top d man? why? 'cuz he won the Norris once and has Quick covering his ineptitude on the d end while his offenses has completely wilted? that guy is the definition of a one hit wonder,


he had 59 points the year he was on team Canada in the olympics, was nominated for the norris, then held out that summer for a $7mil/year contract. that year i remember picking him in my hockey pool an he sucked that whole year offensively. but all i kept hearing was he was still a beast defensively. but i don't know b/c i don't watch LA hockey. if he's still good defensively his speed will look good on olympic sized ice, an he'll probably be the 3rd pair defense as a shutdown guy, an killing penalties.

edit: he was asked to play a more defensive roll this year when Greene an Mitchell suffered year ending injuries.. an the only thing i've read about him needing to play better in his own end, was the 1st month of this year.. can you really hold that against him when it's pretty clear the only players that showed up in shape an ready to play wore chicago jerseys?

http://lakingsinsider.com/2013/06/26/player-evaluation-doughty-4/



PS this kid isn't even 24 years old yet, he's won a gold metal, stanely cup, an this past season he avg'd 26:23 TOI (good for 4th overall this year)
man i don't think i'd want that guy on my team... <snickers>
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 20 2013 04:42 GMT
#123
Showing that he can hit a guy from the blind side in open ice doesn't exactly show his prowess on the defensive end. Anyone can hit a guy from that angle.
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EiBmoZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada235 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 04:54:55
July 20 2013 04:48 GMT
#124
On July 20 2013 13:42 Slaughter wrote:
Showing that he can hit a guy from the blind side in open ice doesn't exactly show his prowess on the defensive end. Anyone can hit a guy from that angle.


find me a video of anyone hitting Datsyuk like that
an he back checked his ass off to make that hit
that hit was ranked 5th on best hits of the year

ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 11:14:13
July 20 2013 11:13 GMT
#125
Gotta say that the biggest losers of this postseason are the teams that got to Metro division. Plus I think somebody was drunk when assigning teams to the divisions, because it's quite silly, and it seems strange that East gets 2 more teams than West. We'll see how that works out. Good thing is every team will play any other team at least twice, so a little more diversity for everybody.

Really nice hits in the video, though I would expect all out brawl between DET and COL after the Kronwall hit
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 14:10:50
July 20 2013 14:09 GMT
#126
doughty reminds me of letang because of his skating and offensive skills, but he is way better in his own end. you dont log those kind of minutes if youre anything close to a defensive liability. his es/toi is 2nd in the league, plays 2/sh and 3/pp a game. top 3 toi/g league. that's all elite level stuff. and yeah like it was said, the decline in offensive performance had a lot to do with injuries and the role he moved into. still very easily an elite all around defender.

tt, i think he's only getting a chance if someone is in some real injury trouble. the dumb political comments, people will over look that because of his evident skill. what people wont overlook is how he walked out on boston, and then didnt play for the isles. that shit, combined with his age, if he gets any kind of look, it is only gonna be one year and heavy incentives. he dug that hole himself 100%
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 20 2013 23:32 GMT
#127
Sure you do, if you have the best goalie in the league covering up your errors and a huge salary that forces the coaches hand. The guy is ridiculously overrated, if he was Russian the media would take turns taking a shit on him but as a good old Canadian boy he gets the pass.

In other news, Gagner asked for 5.5 million at arbitration. lol is all i can write about that.
EiBmoZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada235 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 00:28:12
July 21 2013 00:25 GMT
#128
ya i'd love to see how well Quick would do without Doughty, Richards, Carter, ect, ect... oh wait we've seen that, an he couldn't even get LA into the playoffs. hell he wasn't even picked to be the number 1 goalie for the US last Olympics.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 00:37:18
July 21 2013 00:34 GMT
#129
On July 21 2013 09:25 EiBmoZ wrote:
ya i'd love to see how well Quick would do without Doughty, Richards, Carter, ect, ect... oh wait we've seen that, an he couldn't even get LA into the playoffs. hell he wasn't even picked to be the number 1 goalie for the US last Olympics.



well... Ryan Miller is the best goalie in the world when hes playing to his potential. And if you recall, that year he was. He was the only reason the US were even in the finals.

The conversation in this thread is scary, Quick and Doughty are both incredible hockey players, anyone who says otherwise is flat out wrong.

edit. Im not a kings fan. But I have followed hockey closer than most my entire life. Quick will likely start for Team USA this year.

Besides it was his first few season in the NHL, a goalie cant be expected to carry a team to a championship,. Nor can you call a good goalie bad because he wasnt able to carry a bad team. what a ridiculous argument
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EiBmoZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada235 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 01:09:44
July 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#130
i really think the world of quick tbh. i think the world of doughty too. but hockey is a team game, quick without all the star players on la isn't going to carry any team to a cup, you need all the right pieces to win these days. but calling doughty a one hit wonder then praising quick, who's only had one good play off in his career, is laughable.
ps if la fans don't like doughty, we'll take him in detroit anyday =)
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 21 2013 02:59 GMT
#131
On July 21 2013 09:25 EiBmoZ wrote:
ya i'd love to see how well Quick would do without Doughty, Richards, Carter, ect, ect... oh wait we've seen that, an he couldn't even get LA into the playoffs. hell he wasn't even picked to be the number 1 goalie for the US last Olympics.

Since Doughty has mentally checked out once, Quick essentially is playing without him. Without Voynov, LA has no powerplay and even Quick's magic cant carry them into the playoffs.

As for Olympic goalie choices, what does that have to do with anything? Luongo was on the ice for the gold medal win, that makes him the gold standard for goaltending? Players grow grow into their roles, in the last two years Quick went from being a solid goalie on a mediocre team to an amazing goalie on a slightly above average team.

And no, as a Red Wings fan I wouldnt want Doughty on the team. There are enough soft turnover machines there already.
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
July 21 2013 05:58 GMT
#132
Drew Doughty is a fantastic hockey player. He led a pretty meh defense corps to a cup win. He's fairly good offensively, elite defensively, and logs a great deal of minutes. And the Kings were one of the best teams in the league that year after the Carter trade, they were a deserving winner that year. It was far from a goalie getting hot.

Couturier signs a 2 year extension at $1.75M AAV. I like this very much.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10052 Posts
July 21 2013 06:14 GMT
#133
On July 20 2013 11:42 P7GAB wrote:

lol


rofl
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
July 21 2013 13:52 GMT
#134
On July 21 2013 09:34 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 09:25 EiBmoZ wrote:
ya i'd love to see how well Quick would do without Doughty, Richards, Carter, ect, ect... oh wait we've seen that, an he couldn't even get LA into the playoffs. hell he wasn't even picked to be the number 1 goalie for the US last Olympics.



well... Ryan Miller is the best goalie in the world when hes playing to his potential. And if you recall, that year he was. He was the only reason the US were even in the finals.



What??? Miller had one season where he was most people would consider him to be in the top 5 discussion and since then he's never been more than average or slightly above. I dont doubt that part of that reason is that there has been varying degrees of shit in fornt of him for a defense, but guys like Lu and Vokoun thrived for years in FL under much worse conditions. And while he did play great in the olympics, there were several other players who brought their A game to get them there
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 16:27:47
July 21 2013 16:16 GMT
#135
It was pretty short-lived. During the Vancouver Games, yeah I'd say Miller was pretty frigging good back then and during the regular season leading up to it. I ran into Miller a few years back at a hotel I was staying at. When I walked by him I nodded and then I went, "Oh shit, that's Miller" and as I went for the second glance he got wide eyed and high tailed it. lol

Just ran into Deadmau5 last night too at the Cube. World's too small. >_<
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
July 21 2013 16:21 GMT
#136
the thought of miller's lopsided face getting wide eyed is just really amusing to me

i loved him right around olympics time but after that he just started getting really whiney to me. though to be fair, if i were stuck in the sabres org over the last few years id feel the same way too
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 21 2013 16:22 GMT
#137
On July 21 2013 15:14 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 11:42 P7GAB wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hExWEWUXkOA
lol


rofl


wtf was he drunk, trolling, or is he just like that? Never seen that LOL.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 21 2013 16:28 GMT
#138
On July 22 2013 01:21 QuanticHawk wrote:
the thought of miller's lopsided face getting wide eyed is just really amusing to me

i loved him right around olympics time but after that he just started getting really whiney to me. though to be fair, if i were stuck in the sabres org over the last few years id feel the same way too


That was in 2011 when he wasn't playing well so yeah he wanted to dodge everyone lol.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
July 21 2013 17:07 GMT
#139
I'm still at a loss for words at the idiocy of having a 16/14 team split. I think they picked the silly division names to distract people from this.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 17:16:47
July 21 2013 17:16 GMT
#140
It is stupid, but they really can't rectify it without adding two teams, dropping two teams, or only fixing one of cbj/det. I'm not really sure that 15/15 is better if each conference has an 8 and a 7 division though
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