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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 25 2013 18:02 GMT
#201
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JimmiC
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Canada22817 Posts
July 25 2013 18:08 GMT
#202
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 19:04:14
July 25 2013 18:41 GMT
#203
leafs apparently have signed nonis to a five year extenson, and he still has 2 years on this deal

i don't even know what to say at this point lol

e: gunnarsson apparently got a 3.15m deal or so. i didnt see the term but just saw it on another forum. that is fair for him. solid defensemen if unspectacular.
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sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
July 26 2013 03:44 GMT
#204
I have to imagine TOR will do well despite the odds, just to piss off their fans who actually know something about hockey. Nonis or potato? Definitely potato.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
July 26 2013 05:19 GMT
#205
That's really the only way this whole thing can get more silly. THe team makes playoffs in spite of the underlying stats saying they should, they reward more shitty players/sign more expensive unnecessary players, and price themseleves out of resigning the handful of good players theyve got

so i didn't see it mentioned much, but jagr on the devils isn't gonna replace kovy, but it could be interesting. at the very least, ill be happy because I get to see him get at least one more year in of being jagr. Even at this old age, the way that due just dominates posession, esp on the circles on the pp, just so awesome
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
July 26 2013 15:25 GMT
#206
I think the small taste of playoffs has caused Toronto to do some colossally dumb things this off-season. They dealt with their possession problems by bringing in even shittier possession players and letting better ones walk. The rewarded a good season from a good goaltender by again making him question the stability of his job.

This is Edmonton circa 2006-2007 - letting a little bit of improbable success dictate the notion that you're better than you actually are. It has taken Edmonton nearly 10 years to crawl out from the contractual mess they created that summer by assuming that they were magically going to be competitive every year.
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
July 26 2013 15:32 GMT
#207
Also, hockey porn:

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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 15:46:54
July 26 2013 15:44 GMT
#208
On July 27 2013 00:25 Flaccid wrote:
This is Edmonton circa 2006-2007 - letting a little bit of improbable success dictate the notion that you're better than you actually are. It has taken Edmonton nearly 10 years to crawl out from the contractual mess they created that summer by assuming that they were magically going to be competitive every year.

Yeah shit that is spot on hahaha. Speaking of Tay Tay, did you see his stick skill video on that roller rink where he was screwing around with a golf ball?? I want the Oilers to get good so all of those great offensive players can finally get recognition.


so bure is gonna get his number retired by the nucks next year. about goddamn time. dude was one of my favorite non rangers growing up. in nhl video games, i used 96 a lot because of him. why i used the number he wore for a very short amount of time, i dont know...

so in honor of that, and to get some videos in here, here is the best bure video



new game for the next page or two: post a video that in some way related to the one posted before yours

so for example, this could follow the bure vid



a solid excuse to post two of my favorite videos. today is a good day
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
July 26 2013 16:38 GMT
#209
Ah Tay Tay:

6th in the league in 5x5 pts/60, 2nd in the Western Conference
2nd in the league for LW in 5x5 pts/60, 1st in the Western Conference

All while playing for a shitty team that scored less goals than like 20 other teams.

Alas, not quite good enough to knock Ovechkin off of the first or second all-star team. And Lindy "Don't Call me Lindy" Ruff doesn't think he's that great. Hall may as well retire.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
July 26 2013 17:22 GMT
#210
I still don't understand how the fuck a team with that kind of talent in its top 9 finishes so low in goal scoring

I guess injuries and short season, but still
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
July 26 2013 17:42 GMT
#211
On July 27 2013 02:22 QuanticHawk wrote:
I still don't understand how the fuck a team with that kind of talent in its top 9 finishes so low in goal scoring


I think it's more like top 6, since the bottom 6 are, for the most part, pretty bad.

And to answer the question, it happens by getting 100% of your production from the top 6 and absolutely-sweet-fuck-all from the 3rd and 4th lines. If this were NHL '94 and line-changes were turned off, the Oilers would have been a decent team.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
July 26 2013 17:49 GMT
#212
That's true. I was thinking more about last year, when Hemsky and Paavarji occasionally, since they were getting railroaded out of edmonton. Perron's a nice move though.
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kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
July 26 2013 18:14 GMT
#213
That Bure video never gets old, he was and still is my favorite player.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
July 26 2013 21:19 GMT
#214
Apparently talks might be stalling with Franson now because Nonis thinks he is asking too much, per dreger

What in the fuck is Nonis doing??? Franson is pretty good but I can't really give a good assessment because I don't watch him nightly like Leafs fans. BUt I do know that based on the organizational need for defensemen, particularly righties, that is silly.
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
July 26 2013 21:22 GMT
#215
Looool pretty good write-up about the Leafs and their amazing off-season:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/did-dave-nonis-justify-five-contract-extension-trending-135904744.html
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
July 26 2013 21:45 GMT
#216
Lambert can be hit or miss sometimes, but I enjoy his column generally and that was spot on haha. Ditto for the bit about cap recapture. I really do not like retroactively punishing things that are, to get all JJR for a moment, 'against the spirit' of the 'rules', but were actually 100% a-ok.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
July 28 2013 19:05 GMT
#217
On July 27 2013 06:45 QuanticHawk wrote:
Lambert can be hit or miss sometimes, but I enjoy his column generally and that was spot on haha. Ditto for the bit about cap recapture. I really do not like retroactively punishing things that are, to get all JJR for a moment, 'against the spirit' of the 'rules', but were actually 100% a-ok.

I dislike cap recapture as a means of making teams pay for the bonuses achieved by players. Cap hit should be calculated based on maximum possible salary. But the system was set up like that so teams could spend over. Wounder how long until some savy GM finds a way to up his payroll by 5-6 million a year via this system.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 22:44:17
July 28 2013 22:35 GMT
#218
On July 27 2013 06:19 QuanticHawk wrote:
Apparently talks might be stalling with Franson now because Nonis thinks he is asking too much, per dreger

What in the fuck is Nonis doing??? Franson is pretty good but I can't really give a good assessment because I don't watch him nightly like Leafs fans. BUt I do know that based on the organizational need for defensemen, particularly righties, that is silly.


Franson didn't really produce anything after the first 20 games so I would imagine negotiations would be stalled due to him asking for a raise when he did nothing the latter half of the season. Our defensemen prospect pool is good, just no one's really ready for the nhl yet. Franson has a wicked shot though, which Holzer and Kostka don't have, so I guess that's where the stalling comes from. ~1.5-2 million would be about right for Franson I think.

The problem is probably that we can't sign Kadri since Kadri will probably want around 3-4 million after this year, and Fraser still needs a raise too... Oh right, and someone needs to get rid of Liles.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 00:25:10
July 29 2013 00:18 GMT
#219
On July 29 2013 07:35 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 06:19 QuanticHawk wrote:
Apparently talks might be stalling with Franson now because Nonis thinks he is asking too much, per dreger

What in the fuck is Nonis doing??? Franson is pretty good but I can't really give a good assessment because I don't watch him nightly like Leafs fans. BUt I do know that based on the organizational need for defensemen, particularly righties, that is silly.


Franson didn't really produce anything after the first 20 games so I would imagine negotiations would be stalled due to him asking for a raise when he did nothing the latter half of the season. Our defensemen prospect pool is good, just no one's really ready for the nhl yet. Franson has a wicked shot though, which Holzer and Kostka don't have, so I guess that's where the stalling comes from. ~1.5-2 million would be about right for Franson I think.

The problem is probably that we can't sign Kadri since Kadri will probably want around 3-4 million after this year, and Fraser still needs a raise too... Oh right, and someone needs to get rid of Liles.


8 points in his last 10 regular season games and 6 points in 7 playoff games? 1.5-2 million? You think the top scoring defenseman on the team should be paid like a 5th-6th defenseman?
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 00:39:32
July 29 2013 00:32 GMT
#220
On July 29 2013 09:18 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:35 Blisse wrote:
On July 27 2013 06:19 QuanticHawk wrote:
Apparently talks might be stalling with Franson now because Nonis thinks he is asking too much, per dreger

What in the fuck is Nonis doing??? Franson is pretty good but I can't really give a good assessment because I don't watch him nightly like Leafs fans. BUt I do know that based on the organizational need for defensemen, particularly righties, that is silly.


Franson didn't really produce anything after the first 20 games so I would imagine negotiations would be stalled due to him asking for a raise when he did nothing the latter half of the season. Our defensemen prospect pool is good, just no one's really ready for the nhl yet. Franson has a wicked shot though, which Holzer and Kostka don't have, so I guess that's where the stalling comes from. ~1.5-2 million would be about right for Franson I think.

The problem is probably that we can't sign Kadri since Kadri will probably want around 3-4 million after this year, and Fraser still needs a raise too... Oh right, and someone needs to get rid of Liles.


8 points in his last 10 regular season games and 6 points in 7 playoff games? 1.5-2 million? You think the top scoring defenseman on the team should be paid like a 5th-6th defenseman?


Okay, so spend $3 million on him and now we lose Kadri or Fraser. His previous contract was $1.2 million for a couple years so he's asking for a huge raise, which he probably does deserve, but we don't have the cap space for him if he's jacking up the price so much unless something happens with Liles.

*whoa i read his stats upside down rofl

Okay yeah he needs more money but fuck Nonis we don't have the space.


http://theleafsnation.com/2013/7/26/fransontrade
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