EPTManner Muling! - Page 9
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Sated
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
On July 12 2013 19:44 Sated wrote: I disagree, I think they're exactly the same thing, and I always have. Because I think this, and since it seems like other people do as well, it's obviously not obviously not the same thing. Maybe in ladder, but you can´t do an offensive gg in a tournament. That would be stupid.. Perhaps a few very well known players can go through with this. | ||
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ChAoS-AnGeLs
Canada13 Posts
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Sated
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Crackpot
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 12 2013 19:53 Sated wrote: You're right, you generally can't offensive gg in tournaments... and so you shouldn't be allowed to manner MULE either. And who are you to tell people how to play the game? Often times manner mules are friendly banter between players. Its nowhere near offensive gg'ing. | ||
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Ficetool
Germany165 Posts
On July 12 2013 20:10 NarutO wrote: And who are you to tell people how to play the game? Often times manner mules are friendly banter between players. Its nowhere near offensive gg'ing. Ah, so THAT is why every caster out there interprets it as "get ouf of my game" which is.....HA....the exact same as an offensive gg :-O If you dont wanna tell anyone how to play the game, don't frown upon peole using BM or other stuff. Or at least, if you have no problem with BM, defend them as well. Because in the end: who are you to tell someone how to play the game? | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
On July 12 2013 20:11 Ficetool wrote: Ah, so THAT is why every caster out there interprets it as "get ouf of my game" which is.....HA....the exact same as an offensive gg :-O If you dont wanna tell anyone how to play the game, don't frown upon peole using BM or other stuff. Or at least, if you have no problem with BM, defend them as well. Because in the end: who are you to tell someone how to play the game? Just think about the reaction the crowed and casters make when someone manner mules and when someone GGs offensive... This can´t be considered the same. | ||
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robson1
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 12 2013 20:16 Sated wrote: And who are you to tell people that they can't offensive gg? I didn't? | ||
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DJFaqU
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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eGoRama
Bulgaria1542 Posts
You should not be irritated by such things, keep calm, call gg and continue. Staying calm to every situation = Success on ladder | ||
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priestnoob
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On July 12 2013 20:36 Sated wrote: I was replying to this: "You can´t do an offensive gg in a tournament. That would be stupid." If you're not taking up that same point, then you shouldn't have jumped into the middle of this conversation... or at least made your own position clear before being snarky. Might be best to quote the post you're actually responding to next time. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 12 2013 19:35 Ficetool wrote: I write offensive ggs =) It's basically the same thing: telling my opponent I dominated him and he is too bad to have another chance of winning the game. I like it. Makes me feel superior to those noobs I bash into the ground =) That's the dumbest stuff I have read in a while. It does not matter how you tell your opponent to get the f*uck out of your game. It is still the exact same message, lol. If it's dumb you'll have to point out why it's dumb, because what I said was totally correct. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 12 2013 20:36 Sated wrote: I was replying to this: "You can´t do an offensive gg in a tournament. That would be stupid." If you're not taking up that same point, then you shouldn't have jumped into the middle of this conversation... or at least made your own position clear before being snarky. I know what you were replying to and you said "you shouldn't be allowed to manner mule either". I believe the reason you cannot offensive gg in tournaments is simple, gg is sign of defeat and you probably would be accounted a loss for gg'ing ;-). Manner mules are no sign of defeat but celebration / ceremony / friendly banter. On July 12 2013 20:11 Ficetool wrote: Ah, so THAT is why every caster out there interprets it as "get ouf of my game" which is.....HA....the exact same as an offensive gg :-O If you dont wanna tell anyone how to play the game, don't frown upon peole using BM or other stuff. Or at least, if you have no problem with BM, defend them as well. Because in the end: who are you to tell someone how to play the game? As much as the tone can change the music and pronounciation can change the meaning of the exact same sentence, 'get out' can either be friendly banter or a douche move. I believe an offensive gg on ladder rarely is friendly banter but simple "get the fuck out" with bad intention while a manner mule might not be, and especially not in tournaments. As I already said, I didn't tell anyone how to play the game (especially on ladder, as I'm free to ignore the person) but tournaments have rules. GG comes from the loser as sign of defeat, would be hilarious to see an offensive gg accounted for as a loss. If you would forbid manner mules, you also need to forbid dancing, wiggling units, manner nexus, manner hatch, proxy command center..... etc, its dumb. | ||
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Melwach
Germany176 Posts
On July 12 2013 19:31 marvellosity wrote: Offensive gg'ing and manner muling are pretty different, for one reason - offensive gg'ing is using "out-of-game" stuff (verbal) to get a rise/take the piss. Manner mules are just using the mechanics of the game to say "look, don't even NEED these". Same with manner nexuses, manner mass-scans, */dances* or whatever. If you're using the mechanics of the game to demonstrate your superior position, then there shouldn't be a problem. Exactly my thoughts. There's just a different between direct verbal communication to show off your superiority and indirect communication via using the means of the game itself. | ||
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