EPT[G] TvE: Get to Master with One Build & < 50 APM - Page 2
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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Akaann
Switzerland82 Posts
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
Maybe you can get to plat with this, but masters? Sorry but........ nah. | ||
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Deleted User 261926
960 Posts
On June 18 2013 18:36 Clazziquai10 wrote: I don't even believe this will get you to masters. Anyone who is in diamond with half a brain should at least be able to scout that you have not expanded and will react accordingly. Terrans will make tanks/hellions/mines, Zerg will make ling/bling/spines/queens, and protoss will stop it with forcefield and nexus cannon. You will probably have a win-loss of 2-10 and regret ever trying out this dumb build. Maybe you can get to plat with this, but masters? Sorry but........ nah. Yeah, sounds like a straight lie. Unless NA masters is really much lower than EU's (I don't think so). I'd just ovie scout at 5 min and either see a crapload of rax or get my ovy shot by too many marines. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On June 18 2013 18:36 Clazziquai10 wrote: I don't even believe this will get you to masters. Anyone who is in diamond with half a brain should at least be able to scout that you have not expanded and will react accordingly. Terrans will make tanks/hellions/mines, Zerg will make ling/bling/spines/queens, and protoss will stop it with forcefield and nexus cannon. You will probably have a win-loss of 2-10 and regret ever trying out this dumb build. Maybe you can get to plat with this, but masters? Sorry but........ nah. OP did apparently. People severely underestimate how many people on ladder have a few stock, solid builds that they execute without really using their brains. Stands to reason that stuff like this could work | ||
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inkfected
England76 Posts
First time I encountered this build was when I was in silver league. Dude walled-in pretty quick leaving my no chance of scouting and for me this is first sign of cheeky play. I just simply put an SCV on his natural and a marine on xel'naga tower. When he left his base I had way enough time to build bunkers and defend that cheesy all-in. He obviously tried his backup plan teching up to stim and medivacs but before ge managed to do that he lost miserably. Since then I have been marine all-ined many times and easy repelled these shenanigans. So again how is it even possible to get to masters with such well known strategy? Also, most protosses in higher leagues if not all, move out with a zealot and a stalker and a MSC to check if an opponent expanded and if he did not build a bunker to punish him badly. That is enough to collect information about what is coming and prepare the defense. With nexus cannon and a bunch of zealots with stalkers it is easy peasy to stop that all-in. | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
Gz dude you got a light blue portrait and you're still terrible, you also just made a guide for a build TLO did in the beta I believe or early WoL. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
Props to you OP, I don't use marine all-in in my builds but I'll look at your timings and see if I can learn from it | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On June 18 2013 19:13 GhostOwl wrote: Why are so many players angry he contributed a guide? Sure, he got to masters, and it is a cheesy all-in build but at least he got a pretty flawless execution of it and shared it with us. Or are many players angry that it reinforces the notion that T/Marines is easy to play? Props to you OP, I don't use marine all-in in my builds but I'll look at your timings and see if I can learn from it As i see it, he used a guide, and posted his experiences. thats totally different. | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
ITS THAT OLD | ||
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Lephex
Germany153 Posts
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THE_oldy
Australia97 Posts
Enjoy the Master league. You earned it. Gave me a chuckle | ||
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Gaizokubanou
United States61 Posts
On June 18 2013 19:40 govie wrote: As i see it, he used a guide, and posted his experiences. thats totally different. That and if you check his post history, all of his posts has been a way of trolling people about marine balance talk. He just got 'smarter' lately and instead of directly talking about marine being imba, now he's posting 'guides' (with build order from other guides...) to flamebait. | ||
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ZealotMaster
United Kingdom15 Posts
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Lock0n
United Kingdom184 Posts
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
10 supply 12 rax 15 oc 16 marine 17 cc 17marine 18 scv 19 scv Then when you are supply capped at 19, save up 600 mins and drop 4 more rax for a total of 5. Then drop another depot as your expo is finishing up, and keep building depots with this scv. Once your oc's and rax are done, just pump marines and mule while throwing in scvs. vP this build will pretty much kill any expo build they do or even stop oracles or 4 gates. bring an scv to bunker the nat if you want. vT this build can kill any expo as well, esp if you bring some scvs for bunkers. vZ sometimes you just straight up kill them and they gg lol Best of all, its not compeltely all in because you will have an expo AND the ability to be offensive or defensive if need be. From here just drop as many gases as you think you need and start teching up into bio play. PS: if you squeeze in a scout ( up to you) and see some early pressure coming, build another marine or two instad of scvs on your way up to 19/19. 2-4 marines is enough to stop any early pressure even without a bunker if you micro right. building your expo on the low ground + a small amt of marines will signal to your opponent that you are definately not rushing(but then you do) so remember to hide the extra rax and marines until you move out(usually at 12 marines). | ||
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IMplying
Germany58 Posts
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KaiserKieran
United States615 Posts
GLHF my friend. | ||
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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beg
991 Posts
On June 18 2013 19:49 padfoota wrote: Wow the last time I saw this.........TLO did this vs some zerg on metropolis top right vs bottom right spawn. ITS THAT OLD i think that was the game against idra, but wasnt that 7rax? hihihi anyway... my god, what's wrong with you people here? stop bashing him. this thread is obviously for comical value (plus the insight that you can get master this way) | ||
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