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Table of Contents
I. Introduction
II. How to get to Master League with One Build
....A. Overview
....B. Deny Scouting
....C. Build an Army
....D. Move Out
III. Replays
I. Introduction
I came to this forum a month or so ago on a mission.
I wanted to learn how to Marine all-in. No, more than that. I wanted to be the very best, like no one ever was. And though you didn't help me in my time of need,*1 I am too big a man to hold a grudge.
I have returned to teach you how to play this game.
I've played around 200 games of SC2 since last month. Every game I played as Terran. Every game I built the same units. And every game I played, I learned.
I became faster; stronger; better. I shaved minutes, then seconds, then milliseconds off my build time. And I started to win. And win. Today I stand before you in full, veiny, triumphant glory. Bask in it.
It's true that I don't know the Terran tech tree. Truer still that I've only the faintest grasp of how to micromanage my units or macro-manage my economy, and that I only know one build order.
But it is also true that I can teach you to be like me. Sadly, you're not me, but if you absorb the information in this guide you can be a Master like me.
*1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414682#1
II. How to get to Master League with One Build
Overview
This build order requires you to deny scouting, to build an army, and to move out.
That's it. There is no need (or opportunity) to read and react to the opponent's build, no need (or opportunity) to switch tech, and no need (or opportunity) to micromanage your units.
You build your units behind a wall, attack move out, and collect your points.
A. Deny Scouting
You must not get scouted. Period. You will lose the game if the enemy sees inside your base between the four and six minute marks.
Fortunately for you, you can avoid getting scouted against any race on almost any map. Here's how.
Get your initial wall up. Follow the build order below - start/cancel a Supply Depot, and be ready to repair it if a worker comes to harass you before your Barracks finishes. If a worker gets in before that, it doesn't matter - your first Marine will come out long before you reveal your build.
Against Zerg, keep Marines on the edges of your base, especially the side where you've hidden your Barracks. (Don't send too many Marines to attack encroaching Overlords - that will tell them what you're doing as much as seeing the Barracks will. Gauge it and send the minimum number.)
Against Protoss, they have no shot. Get the wall up, rally Marines to the edge. Hide your Barracks in the back, just in case he tries to Mothership Core scout you.
Other Terrans are the toughest to deal with. It's hard to deny Reaper entry on some bases, and impossible on others. Further, a money scan will show him all of your goodies.
You've just got to learn how to place your Marines to help you deny Reapers, and where to place your Barracks so that the scan will probably miss them. Chain-watch replays of mine or someone else to see where Terrans tend to scan when they've been boxed out of a base, then don't build there.
All-in-all, you should be able to deny scouting 100% of the time against Protoss, 100% of the time against Zerg, and, I estimate, 70% of the time against Terran.
B. Build An Army
Time for the meat and potatoes, eh? What you're about to read is probably the easiest, most forgiving build order there is. You don't have to lift buildings, build more than one unit type, or even get gas. You build SCVs, Marines, Supply Depots, and Barracks. Literally, that's it, and here it is:
Constantly produce SCVs.
6/11: SCV
7/11: SCV
8/11: SCV
9/11: SCV
10/11: SD (use the SCV that you just built)
11/19: SCV
12/19: Barracks
13/19: SCV
@ 100 minerals: Halt Barracks, start/halt SD to finish wall, resume Barracks construction, queue worker to finish SD.
14/19: SCV
15/19: SCV
16/19: Upgrade CC to OC.
16/19: Marines - queue three off the bat & constantly produce them. Send the first to scout for Pylons, position for Overlord defense, or to your mineral line to defend against Reaper harass.
@ OC complete: Drop MULE every 50 energy & build SCV (stop chain queueing SCVs)
@ Second Marine: Scout the enemy for his position on a 4 player map.
@ 600 minerals: 4 Barracks, properly placed.
@ 50 minerals: SCV
@ 150 minerals: Barracks
Resume constant SCV production.
@ 100 minerals: SD, rally back to mineral line.
@ 100 minerals: SD, use this SCV to constantly produce SDs.
@ 4 Barracks' completion: Stop SCV production. Chain produce Marines from all six Barracks.
@ Barracks' completion: Chain produce Marines from all six Barracks.
@ Any time after SCV production stopped: Hotkey all except six workers.
@ ~6:30, or whenever a fresh wave of Marines pops out, move out.
Rally Barracks to outside enemy base; continue to chain produce Marines; stop SD production.
This build order tells you what to build, where to send your units as they're created, and how and when to hotkey your units. The above description is exhaustive - there is nothing else to be said or done. Do the above and you're doing this build as well as anyone can.
C. Move Out
It's 6:30. A wave of five Marines just popped out of your Barracks and they've got itchy trigger fingers. Oblige them. Put a group of five Marines or so near your wall, and the rest of your Marines (there should be about fifteen) toward the back of your base.
Lower the Supply Depot wall, press F2 to select all Marines, and attack-walk toward your enemy's base. Wait a few seconds and send your hotkeyed SCV group - all except six - in the same direction. (You send the SCVs afterward because they run faster than Marines, so wait longer on large maps.)
Note: Your SCVs and MULEs will give you enough income to chain produce Marines, so make sure you do.
When you get to the enemy base, attack walk your way to victory. Or lose to a completely turtled-up one base player. Either way, win or lose before the 8:00 mark, and get into the next game.
Enjoy the Master league. You earned it.
III. Replays
Here are some sample replays.
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What if they're a cheesy toss and go 6 minute DT rush? How often do you win against that?
Do you ever try to build bunkers (esp vs hellions)?
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Yeh, that link is in the original post. You a wizard or a detective or something?
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You've made this thread like 10 times already man. Gasless raxes for easy wins, we get it. Thank you for your contributions to TL no more threads about gasless rax pushes will be necessary. Again we thank you for your contributions now please if I could stop reading about this very easy to execute build every week that would be fantastic. Thank you!
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this build is a piece of shit i don't know how u got to masters doing it but im just saying its just stupid
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Terrible post! And if you start playing normal you will be demoted to Plat... LOL!
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Idk how this would hold up against planetary nexus or any amount of bunkers or tanks...
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So you got to Master's using 6 rax every game. Good job, now i know what to build to blind counter you when we meet on the ladder 
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you can hit master's league cannon rushing too what's your point.
didn't someone get GM six pooling.
whats your point, people have done easier builds and taken them to much higher levels.
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On June 18 2013 15:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:So you got to Master's using 6 rax every game. Good job, now i know what to build to blind counter you when we meet on the ladder
build a mother ship core and force field the marines out forever?
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The same way I cannot understand why some people always seem to allin on ladder, I cannot understand why you would want to reach masters on one build that purely relies on your opponent to make horrendous mistakes. Your master rank will be worth nothing and master in itself is not worth a lot. How could anyone be proud on this? I'd rather struggle to get masters as beginner and learn solid play that I can base my "future play" on instead of cheesing and then falling behind once I reached masters.
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Stop moralizing everything, people. Everybody has it's own reasons and if you have nothing to contribute to the thread just avoid it for the better of all of us.
I'd like to know though how this build fares vs Protoss in HotS - because when I think about MotherShip Core and its spells I'm not sure if this can be successful if the Protoss doesn't screw up. Any experience with this?
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On June 18 2013 15:33 _indigo_ wrote:
Stop moralizing everything, people. Everybody has it's own reasons and if you have nothing to contribute to the thread just avoid it for the better of all of us.
I'd like to know though how this build fares vs Protoss in HotS - because when I think about MotherShip Core and its spells I'm not sure if this can be successful if the Protoss doesn't screw up. Any experience with this?
If you get caught with your pants down and aren't looking when the marines run up your natural ramp and kill the sentries you have there, yeah you're pretty screwed.
But against competent Protoss play, something as simple as zealot/stalker/MSC pressure should scout this build...so your stalker is picking away at their wall-off. We know that marines can't actually defend the wall-off from behind the wall because stalker range, so what is the Terran going to do? move out with marines so the stalker can kite the marines forever? not move out and lose the wall allowing the Protoss to poke in and see your mass barracks building (yeah, Zealot/stalker/core should hit while the 6 rax is not operational yet) and then make forge, cannons, and you lose?
Even just keeping the stalker outside their base will be good enough, upon seeing the move out, you kite them all the way back to your base. With a rush distance of around 40 seconds on most maps, the stalker should be able to kill over half of the marines before they even reach your base...
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Northern Ireland25659 Posts
Say what you want about the build, or the general concept but it's a well-written and thought-out guide that pisses over a lot of guide posts here.
Despite the sickening nature of the gasless 6 rax, it's pretty handy resource to have as a Protoss quite how people hide the build! Additionally, OP is much better than 'I need help vs X that I could find in 3 minutes if I bothered to look' threads clogging up the strategy forum. I'd love it if there were changes like an [H] sub-forum, would be super handy in cutting a bit of the clutter.
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LOL your name looked really familiar.
A few weeks ago I was playing Unranked and i got insanely BM'd by some toss who immortal/sentry all in'd me and expanded behind it, and when he lost called me a f@$$)% and blah blah, kept pestering me all through the next game. It was unranked so i was like, "meh, i'll argue with this guy". Meanwhile, I'm barely playing and just making drones, and all of a sudden 20 marines are at my natural! Totally remember backrap was the name. Thank god for unranked.
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You stole my old, year-old silver build/strategy, even up to the marine scouts vs ovies.
There were a lot more 1 base plays back then, had to abandon it. If you hit masters, its probably a metagame thing- everyone's into macro greed these days. Gratz. You still stole my strategy though...
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worst thing is, he copies the build from that poster that made a utube 1base builds for terran (also thread on tl). This is the bronze build
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I thought bit by bit prime did this when sc2 came out?
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wow. you're a guy that play starcraft only for a nice icon with your nick! Sad to see that you think you've done something great now! I hate to meet people like you on ladder :-/
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I don't even believe this will get you to masters. Anyone who is in diamond with half a brain should at least be able to scout that you have not expanded and will react accordingly. Terrans will make tanks/hellions/mines, Zerg will make ling/bling/spines/queens, and protoss will stop it with forcefield and nexus cannon. You will probably have a win-loss of 2-10 and regret ever trying out this dumb build.
Maybe you can get to plat with this, but masters? Sorry but........ nah.
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On June 18 2013 18:36 Clazziquai10 wrote:
I don't even believe this will get you to masters. Anyone who is in diamond with half a brain should at least be able to scout that you have not expanded and will react accordingly. Terrans will make tanks/hellions/mines, Zerg will make ling/bling/spines/queens, and protoss will stop it with forcefield and nexus cannon. You will probably have a win-loss of 2-10 and regret ever trying out this dumb build.
Maybe you can get to plat with this, but masters? Sorry but........ nah.
Yeah, sounds like a straight lie. Unless NA masters is really much lower than EU's (I don't think so). I'd just ovie scout at 5 min and either see a crapload of rax or get my ovy shot by too many marines.
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Northern Ireland25659 Posts
On June 18 2013 18:36 Clazziquai10 wrote:
I don't even believe this will get you to masters. Anyone who is in diamond with half a brain should at least be able to scout that you have not expanded and will react accordingly. Terrans will make tanks/hellions/mines, Zerg will make ling/bling/spines/queens, and protoss will stop it with forcefield and nexus cannon. You will probably have a win-loss of 2-10 and regret ever trying out this dumb build.
Maybe you can get to plat with this, but masters? Sorry but........ nah.
OP did apparently.
People severely underestimate how many people on ladder have a few stock, solid builds that they execute without really using their brains. Stands to reason that stuff like this could work
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This is well known strategy and I dont believe that by doing this you can get to masters. So many people did this and there has been quite a few posts about gasless marine all-in on TL forum that the community is well prepared for this. To name one - FilterSC (correct me if im wrong).
First time I encountered this build was when I was in silver league. Dude walled-in pretty quick leaving my no chance of scouting and for me this is first sign of cheeky play. I just simply put an SCV on his natural and a marine on xel'naga tower. When he left his base I had way enough time to build bunkers and defend that cheesy all-in. He obviously tried his backup plan teching up to stim and medivacs but before ge managed to do that he lost miserably.
Since then I have been marine all-ined many times and easy repelled these shenanigans. So again how is it even possible to get to masters with such well known strategy?
Also, most protosses in higher leagues if not all, move out with a zealot and a stalker and a MSC to check if an opponent expanded and if he did not build a bunker to punish him badly. That is enough to collect information about what is coming and prepare the defense. With nexus cannon and a bunch of zealots with stalkers it is easy peasy to stop that all-in.
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Of couse it can get you to masters, many people in diamond play in autopilot assuming you're gonna play standard and/or don't know the response to these builds that are not used much at all.
Gz dude you got a light blue portrait and you're still terrible, you also just made a guide for a build TLO did in the beta I believe or early WoL.
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Why are so many players angry he contributed a guide? Sure, he got to masters, and it is a cheesy all-in build but at least he got a pretty flawless execution of it and shared it with us. Or are many players angry that it reinforces the notion that T/Marines is easy to play?
Props to you OP, I don't use marine all-in in my builds but I'll look at your timings and see if I can learn from it
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On June 18 2013 19:13 GhostOwl wrote:
Why are so many players angry he contributed a guide? Sure, he got to masters, and it is a cheesy all-in build but at least he got a pretty flawless execution of it and shared it with us. Or are many players angry that it reinforces the notion that T/Marines is easy to play?
Props to you OP, I don't use marine all-in in my builds but I'll look at your timings and see if I can learn from it
As i see it, he used a guide, and posted his experiences. thats totally different.
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Wow the last time I saw this.........TLO did this vs some zerg on metropolis top right vs bottom right spawn.
ITS THAT OLD
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6 rax WOL Beta build by TLO... cant think this will work in hots, but i think iam going to have some fun @ WOL Ladder with this again and make people rage :D
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I'm pretty sure this guide is meant to be tongue in cheek.
Enjoy the Master league. You earned it.
Gave me a chuckle
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On June 18 2013 19:40 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 19:13 GhostOwl wrote:
Why are so many players angry he contributed a guide? Sure, he got to masters, and it is a cheesy all-in build but at least he got a pretty flawless execution of it and shared it with us. Or are many players angry that it reinforces the notion that T/Marines is easy to play?
Props to you OP, I don't use marine all-in in my builds but I'll look at your timings and see if I can learn from it As i see it, he used a guide, and posted his experiences. thats totally different.
That and if you check his post history, all of his posts has been a way of trolling people about marine balance talk. He just got 'smarter' lately and instead of directly talking about marine being imba, now he's posting 'guides' (with build order from other guides...) to flamebait.
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Level of anger at the OP is amusing. Clearly the point is to demonstrate the incredible cost-efficiency and ease of execution of early marine rushes (although the topic has been done to death since WoL).
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6 pool and cannon rush are both more effective than this build, and lots of Protoss have managed masters and even GM with only cannon rush. 2 rax proxy actually requires more skill and is a much better Terran rush build, as well as having a viable transition, but Terran rushes are much weaker than Zerg or Protoss rushes, that's a fact. Cheese is cheese , but some cheeses are better than others.
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I got a much better build than this one:
10 supply
12 rax
15 oc
16 marine
17 cc
17marine
18 scv
19 scv
Then when you are supply capped at 19, save up 600 mins and drop 4 more rax for a total of 5.
Then drop another depot as your expo is finishing up, and keep building depots with this scv.
Once your oc's and rax are done, just pump marines and mule while throwing in scvs.
vP this build will pretty much kill any expo build they do or even stop oracles or 4 gates. bring an scv to bunker the nat if you want.
vT this build can kill any expo as well, esp if you bring some scvs for bunkers.
vZ sometimes you just straight up kill them and they gg lol
Best of all, its not compeltely all in because you will have an expo AND the ability to be offensive or defensive if need be. From here just drop as many gases as you think you need and start teching up into bio play.
PS: if you squeeze in a scout ( up to you) and see some early pressure coming, build another marine or two instad of scvs on your way up to 19/19. 2-4 marines is enough to stop any early pressure even without a bunker if you micro right. building your expo on the low ground + a small amt of marines will signal to your opponent that you are definately not rushing(but then you do) so remember to hide the extra rax and marines until you move out(usually at 12 marines).
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Funnily enough any at least somewhat solid build will get you to Masters if you execute it properly.
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I applaud your for not giving up, nay I respect you for trying over and over again. While I don't think this build is especially good, your eager persistence is something I envy.
GLHF my friend.
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I made master with proxy gateway all maps all races, vetoed the worst ones, i don't have very good micro either. What would be impressive is if you got grandmaster with 1 build all races all maps.
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On June 18 2013 19:49 padfoota wrote:
Wow the last time I saw this.........TLO did this vs some zerg on metropolis top right vs bottom right spawn.
ITS THAT OLD
i think that was the game against idra, but wasnt that 7rax? hihihi
anyway... my god, what's wrong with you people here? stop bashing him. this thread is obviously for comical value (plus the insight that you can get master this way)
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This thread is garbage and the OP is probably a troll.
FFS he posted the same shit for like 10 times already.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
If you post this "guide" again, I'll perm you from the strat forum.
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