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Kamais Ookin
Canada591 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
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Kamais Ookin
Canada591 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:03 FallDownMarigold wrote: So much money is being spent on the jails in America anyways, I think that would be a good idea to have more thorough inspections via agencies and such.Stick cameras everywhere and have an unrelated agency make rounds on all prisons to review these tapes & interview detainees, etc, etc, a couple times per year. Problems like this won't happen. The catch: it will probably cost a lot. We get what we pay for! | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On June 18 2013 09:24 Bagration wrote: Stanford Prison experiment. The banality of evil. Considering how much people talk about rape occurring in prisons, I'm not surprised by these gruesome events, though disgusted. I was about to reference the same thing. Terrible but this happens but sadly it's not all that surprising when you know the psychology behind it. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:03 FallDownMarigold wrote: Stick cameras everywhere and have an unrelated agency make rounds on all prisons to review these tapes & interview detainees, etc, etc, a couple times per year. Problems like this won't happen. The catch: it will probably cost a lot. We get what we pay for! Essentially that's like hiring guards to watch over the guards. I like it :D | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On June 18 2013 09:53 Dreamer.T wrote: Rape occurs even in male prisons...I don't find this kind of thing surprising at all. Prison guards aren't exactly model citizens, so it's not above them to abuse their positions. Even? Rape has long been completely institutionalized in male prisons, and people make fun of male prison rape instead of expressing concern for it the way they instantly do when women are the victims. There's a reason why the term "rape culture" was first coined to describe prison rape, before the phrase was misappropriated by others... | ||
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:07 ZenithM wrote: Essentially that's like hiring guards to watch over the guards. I like it :D But who watches the watchers? O_O | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:12 Brett wrote: I like how so many people have immediately assumed that the claim is truthful... Suggesting that it clearly couldn't have happened? Even if this happens to be BS, the US is a nation of well over 300 millions. If it's not there, it's somewhere else. | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
Still, it wont surprise me if the claims are actually real. | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:07 NEOtheONE wrote: I was about to reference the same thing. Terrible but this happens but sadly it's not all that surprising when you know the psychology behind it. The Stanford prison experiment is commonly cited, but it was so flawed that its results are irrelevant. Small sample, no control, experimenter effects and plenty of ways for confirmation bias to come into play, etc. Another thing that goes unmentioned is that a third of the guards in the experiment were sadistic to begin with, and they convinced the other guards to participate. Having said that, that's probably what's happening here too. A few rotten apples to spoil the barrel. This story sounds pretty extreme, though. I wouldn't be surprised if they were making it up, and if they weren't, how long has it been going on? Why has it gone unreported? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Apparently all three guards were charged criminally with sexual assault in 2010 by two women who were not the ones suing in this case. While I can't find any decent information on that case, even to see what the verdicts were or if it's still ongoing, I have not seen anything suggesting the plaintiffs in this lawsuit involved themselves in the criminal case. More or less, two women accused these three guards or sexually assaulting them in 2010. Now, in 2013, two new women are stepping forward and are suing the guards, and the county, for money for being sexually assaulted in the same time period. I'm trying to figure out why these women would file a civil suit now, but would not involve themselves in the criminal case three years ago. However, it's not really a good reason to discount their story. Or I could be completely wrong...as I said, info on the 2010 charges are annoyingly hard to find. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:12 Brett wrote: I like how so many people have immediately assumed that the claim is truthful... Even if it was true, it wouldn't be surprising at all, and has probably been done before. Otherwise why would we want specifically female guards rather than male guards to guard women? | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 18 2013 09:32 dAPhREAk wrote: i am skeptical of this account. Same here truthfully. I highly doubt it played out like it was described | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:21 Demonhunter04 wrote: The Stanford prison experiment is commonly cited, but it was so flawed that its results are irrelevant. Small sample, no control, experimenter effects and plenty of ways for confirmation bias to come into play, etc. Another thing that goes unmentioned is that a third of the guards in the experiment were sadistic to begin with, and they convinced the other guards to participate. Having said that, that's probably what's happening here too. A few rotten apples to spoil the barrel. This story sounds pretty extreme, though. I wouldn't be surprised if they were making it up, and if they weren't, how long has it been going on? Why has it gone unreported? That's what I'm wondering.. how in the hell is all that going on for any amount of time without being reported lol | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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zbedlam
Australia549 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:22 ZenithM wrote: Even if it was true, it wouldn't be surprising at all, and has probably been done before. Otherwise why would we want specifically female guards rather than male guards to guard women? Because men are all sorts of stupid and gullible around pussy and it would be a security liability? On topic, don't go to prison - you get raped, it apparently applies to women now as well. | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
A man with power will abuse it that is just how humans work so this isn't surprising at all, but the inmates probably can't win a trial if the guards all say it never happend the system is just very biased like that. There are quite often reports that police violence cases that go to court are almost never won for the claimant and i doubt it will be much different for guards. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:19 Djzapz wrote: Suggesting that it clearly couldn't have happened? Even if this happens to be BS, the US is a nation of well over 300 millions. If it's not there, it's somewhere else. nobody would go broke betting against the veracity of plaintiffs' attorney's allegations in complaints. | ||
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