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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 18 2013 01:34 GMT
#61
On June 18 2013 10:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 10:19 Djzapz wrote:
On June 18 2013 10:12 Brett wrote:
I like how so many people have immediately assumed that the claim is truthful...

Suggesting that it clearly couldn't have happened?

Even if this happens to be BS, the US is a nation of well over 300 millions. If it's not there, it's somewhere else.

nobody would go broke betting against the veracity of plaintiffs' attorney's allegations in complaints.

People's selective optimism amuses me...
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 18 2013 01:34 GMT
#62
On June 18 2013 09:26 Chrispy wrote:
Just curios but as there seems to be no mention of full on rape (ie penile insertion), what do you think is the reasoning behind this?

Terrible situation, I thought it was commonplace for female guards to guard female prisons.

To the guy thinking this was in any way shape or form justifiable: WTF?


STD fright is probably one reason
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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
June 18 2013 01:37 GMT
#63
Why am I not surprised that something like this has happened in Texas

On June 18 2013 09:24 Integra wrote:
I'm surprised they managed to do this, doesn't jails in US have rather strict controls so that crap like this cannot happen?

So naïve

In the US, prisons are listed on the stock market and rent out prison labor to boost corporate profits. What controls?
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 18 2013 01:38 GMT
#64
Prison rape is hugely prevalent but we should be skeptical that female inmates get harassed.

Our brave prison guards would never ever.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
betaflame
Profile Joined November 2010
175 Posts
June 18 2013 01:41 GMT
#65
Rape in prison happens in a lot of places but I think that the abuse of power is the ultimate issue here.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
June 18 2013 01:51 GMT
#66
I really hope that some sort of "action, law, or change" happens with the prison system to prevent prison rape universally for men and women, because it's sad that it needs to be a woman who is raped for prison rape to get exposure. Male rape has long been a problem in the US prison system and hasn't been addressed adequately.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 18 2013 01:55 GMT
#67
On June 18 2013 10:51 DonKey_ wrote:
I really hope that some sort of "action, law, or change" happens with the prison system to prevent prison rape universally for men and women, because it's sad that it needs to be a woman who is raped for prison rape to get exposure. Male rape has long been a problem in the US prison system and hasn't been addressed adequately.

there already is a law. its ineffective. there is also a law that makes prisons liable for rapes in their prison to some extent. its effectiveness is questionable.
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 02:03:21
June 18 2013 01:57 GMT
#68
I think one thing that's causing this problem is that far too many people look at prisoners as "less than human". I personally know a number of people who, upon hearing about something like this will just say "Well, that's what you get for committing a crime. If you don't like it, don't get sent to prison."

If we want to eliminate the problem we first have to rid our society of the idea that someone who has made a mistake in their life is less than human. Only then will our country care enough to properly scrutinize our jails.

Edit: minor typo
Procrastination is the enemy
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
June 18 2013 01:57 GMT
#69
On June 18 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 09:26 Chrispy wrote:
Just curios but as there seems to be no mention of full on rape (ie penile insertion), what do you think is the reasoning behind this?

Terrible situation, I thought it was commonplace for female guards to guard female prisons.

To the guy thinking this was in any way shape or form justifiable: WTF?


STD fright is probably one reason
You've heard of condoms right?
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
June 18 2013 02:00 GMT
#70
On June 18 2013 10:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 10:51 DonKey_ wrote:
I really hope that some sort of "action, law, or change" happens with the prison system to prevent prison rape universally for men and women, because it's sad that it needs to be a woman who is raped for prison rape to get exposure. Male rape has long been a problem in the US prison system and hasn't been addressed adequately.

there already is a law. its ineffective. there is also a law that makes prisons liable for rapes in their prison to some extent. its effectiveness is questionable.

Then we should make changes? I don't see why one ineffective law should stop us from looking for an effective solution.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
June 18 2013 02:02 GMT
#71
On June 18 2013 10:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 10:51 DonKey_ wrote:
I really hope that some sort of "action, law, or change" happens with the prison system to prevent prison rape universally for men and women, because it's sad that it needs to be a woman who is raped for prison rape to get exposure. Male rape has long been a problem in the US prison system and hasn't been addressed adequately.

there already is a law. its ineffective. there is also a law that makes prisons liable for rapes in their prison to some extent. its effectiveness is questionable.

I think one of the problems is that inmates are in an extremely vulnerable position being incarcerated and it's just far to easy for guards to take advantage of them. It's just far to easy for guards to use their power to keep such crimes secret, and if the inmate reports it they can just deny it and say that the inmate is lying. Sometimes I just think prison guards and police officers have too much power.
Procrastination is the enemy
Lockitupv2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States496 Posts
June 18 2013 02:03 GMT
#72
I have a hard time believing in forced oral sex.

I mean, wouldnt the girls just bite down on it?

Nevertheless, this is troubling. Life behind is a mystery to most people and things like this have a hard time getting out to the people who can do something about it.
That's right folks, I definitely heard an ethnic twang in that voice, so everyone put your guesses on the screen. It's everyone's favorite game, it's Guess the Minority!!!
izlong
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore108 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 02:07:36
June 18 2013 02:06 GMT
#73
On June 18 2013 11:03 Lockitupv2 wrote:
I have a hard time believing in forced oral sex.

I mean, wouldnt the girls just bite down on it?


And risk being physically and mentally abused even harder for doing that?
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Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
June 18 2013 02:06 GMT
#74
On June 18 2013 11:03 Lockitupv2 wrote:
I have a hard time believing in forced oral sex.

I mean, wouldnt the girls just bite down on it?

Nevertheless, this is troubling. Life behind is a mystery to most people and things like this have a hard time getting out to the people who can do something about it.
If there's a gun pointed at your head, do you bite or swallow?
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codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
June 18 2013 02:08 GMT
#75
On June 18 2013 11:03 Lockitupv2 wrote:
I have a hard time believing in forced oral sex.

I mean, wouldnt the girls just bite down on it?

Nevertheless, this is troubling. Life behind is a mystery to most people and things like this have a hard time getting out to the people who can do something about it.

The OP says the following:
The court document alleged that the guards would “facilitate their carnal impulses” by withholding food and water, physically abusing the women, threatening them and taking away privileges.

If the inmates had "[bitten] down on it" as you suggest, then the guards would have beaten them, or continued withholding food and water. When a guy who's armed and is bigger than you says they'll beat you if you don't suck on it, you're probably not going to want to "bite down on it".
Procrastination is the enemy
zbedlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia549 Posts
June 18 2013 02:09 GMT
#76
On June 18 2013 11:06 Kamais Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:03 Lockitupv2 wrote:
I have a hard time believing in forced oral sex.

I mean, wouldnt the girls just bite down on it?

Nevertheless, this is troubling. Life behind is a mystery to most people and things like this have a hard time getting out to the people who can do something about it.
If there's a gun pointed at your head, do you bite or swallow?


Good luck shooting someone after your dick was just bitten off.
Rainbow Cuddles
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States486 Posts
June 18 2013 02:10 GMT
#77
Can we not have this kind of stuff on TL? Even the title is triggering
Lockitupv2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States496 Posts
June 18 2013 02:12 GMT
#78
You 3 wouldnt happen to be women, would you? It would hurt them more than they could ever hurt you. They cant shoot the prisoner, that much is obvious.
That's right folks, I definitely heard an ethnic twang in that voice, so everyone put your guesses on the screen. It's everyone's favorite game, it's Guess the Minority!!!
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
June 18 2013 02:12 GMT
#79
On June 18 2013 11:09 zbedlam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:06 Kamais Ookin wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:03 Lockitupv2 wrote:
I have a hard time believing in forced oral sex.

I mean, wouldnt the girls just bite down on it?

Nevertheless, this is troubling. Life behind is a mystery to most people and things like this have a hard time getting out to the people who can do something about it.
If there's a gun pointed at your head, do you bite or swallow?


Good luck shooting someone after your dick was just bitten off.
That's true, but the point of the gun is the deterrent factor, with the goal in mind that they won't bite in the first place from fear.
MAL Profile: http://myanimelist.net/profile/Kamais_Ookin Twitch account streaming fighting games and PC games, etc twitch.tv/kamais_ookin
Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
June 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#80
On June 18 2013 11:10 Rainbow Cuddles wrote:
Can we not have this kind of stuff on TL? Even the title is triggering

The last time I checked, TL was supposed to be a place where any topic can be discussed objectively, in a level headed manner. Not a place where we pretend bad things don't happen, and only talk about how nice the world is. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one please.
Just break the rules, and you see the truth.
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