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On May 18 2013 00:52 Nimix wrote:
Well so far I played one guy with an auto inject hack (250 macro apm lawl), and two or three obvious maphackers in 1 year or so of playing the game. While I'm pretty sure there is a lot of hackers (like on all multiplayer games, there will be tons of pieces of shit that will feel better winning through hacks and insulting you than losing playing legitimately), it bothers me less than on FPS games where hackers totally prevent you from playing. I mean, you can't win against a wallhacker on CS, but you can win against a maphacker because he'll likely be bad anyway.
Something needs to be done of course, but I'm not sure something can be done because of the way hacks and anti hacks work. Anyway OP, to get that mad, either you're really unlucky, or you're just one of those guys that calls hack whenever he loses (I myself got told I was a hacker in a very straight up game where the guy played awfully and all I did was scanning his 4th xD)
(by the way OP might be just trolling seeing his following posts \o/)
I'm not trolling, i'm just pissed by the way blizzard handles hacking in general and decided to make a not so well thought out OP, fuck me right. Ill add in all the fluff TLers love so much @ later date, it will have jpgs and all kinds of crap =p
That last part was a troll in case you are really dense =p
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yay i write a comment :D
okay... there is no point in getting this frustrated about hackers, because everything a hacker does,
a very lucky opponent could do too. this is, after all, a strategy game... if you meet a maphacker in
diamond-league he probably is in diamond because of his hacks. but his maphacks did not get him into master-league. same goes for other leagues of course. Good players beat maphackers, because they play super safe and have super good mechanics... and if they lose? well then they watch the replay and think about what they could have done better.
and i really think that you should calm down. there are Some maphackers out there, yes, but they will never be able to enter big tournaments everyone is cheering for.
Ladder is for improvement... if you lose against a maphacker you probably did something wrong... find out what it was and optimize your build
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On May 18 2013 00:51 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:50 HardlyNever wrote:
I've only played one hacker this season. Reported him on b.net and in the TL hacker thread (he was already in there). While it sucks to be hacked, I have to say the number seems incredibly low. In over 3000 games, I'd say there are less than 30 that I feel like might have had some kind of hacker. Only about half of those would I say I am almost certain there were hacks being used. The other half are just likely, but luck does happen. We're talking about less than 1% of games I've played, and I've been playing since beta.
That said, I would like to seem them be a little more aggressive with obvious and repeat offenders. Hacking is what ruined the WC3 ladder, and they don't need to come anywhere close to repeating that mistake. Exactly, thank you. We don't need this to spiral out of control, blizzard needs to be more aggo.
Ok, but less than 1% of games is not "flooded with hackers." It is a very rare occurrence. You're blowing this way out of proportion because you got hacked once, maybe twice in one week (on a bad string of luck).
But it wouldn't hurt to keep a bug in David Kim's ear that we still see hackers every once in a while. Just don't make it out to be much worse than it currently is.
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LULZ again people with the hey you lost to hacker, you did something wrong. OF COURSE I DID, could I have won that game? Sure, Put my first pylon @ the edge of my base, so i see his probe coming in, AGAIN for the millionth time, This has NOTHING to do with game i played, and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that these hacks are out there, in the 1000's. Please you people stop lecturing me on game ethics, strategy of winning and learning to WHATEVER the fuck you are talking about.
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Why the fuck are you so aggressive in all your posts? I don't understand why you have to come off like a dick to make a point?
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On May 18 2013 00:58 HardlyNever wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:51 Moochlol wrote:On May 18 2013 00:50 HardlyNever wrote:
I've only played one hacker this season. Reported him on b.net and in the TL hacker thread (he was already in there). While it sucks to be hacked, I have to say the number seems incredibly low. In over 3000 games, I'd say there are less than 30 that I feel like might have had some kind of hacker. Only about half of those would I say I am almost certain there were hacks being used. The other half are just likely, but luck does happen. We're talking about less than 1% of games I've played, and I've been playing since beta.
That said, I would like to seem them be a little more aggressive with obvious and repeat offenders. Hacking is what ruined the WC3 ladder, and they don't need to come anywhere close to repeating that mistake. Exactly, thank you. We don't need this to spiral out of control, blizzard needs to be more aggo. Ok, but less than 1% of games is not "flooded with hackers." It is a very rare occurrence. You're blowing this way out of proportion because you got hacked once, maybe twice in one week (on a bad string of luck). But it wouldn't hurt to keep a bug in David Kim's ear that we still see hackers every once in a while. Just don't make it out to be much worse than it currently is.
LOLLLLLL wow, so say I exaggerated this OP, which I may just fucking have. WHATS THE WORST that could happen if we blow this out of proportion. Blizzard actually changes there stance on cheating, and does more than just batch bans with not a single GM doing jack shit? TL please get real.
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post if im sick of hackers? I'm absolutely sick of everything that is related to blizzard in terms of customer service
they're a complete and total joke, their technical support forum is a laughing stock just go in there and look at all the frustrated people
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On May 18 2013 01:01 S2Lunar wrote:
Why the fuck are you so aggressive in all your posts? I don't understand why you have to come off like a dick to make a point?
Probably because people are completely ignoring his point. He said in his OP that LoL and Dota have a better system to deal with hackers and that it could be brought up on Sotg. But everyone replys with personal experience against hackers and criticizing his way of arguing, which should be pretty irrelevant.
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On May 18 2013 01:01 S2Lunar wrote:
Why the fuck are you so aggressive in all your posts? I don't understand why you have to come off like a dick to make a point?
Because that is how I roll. I'm an aggro boss, taking a stand in a mire of weird TL introverts. I'm blowing things way out of proportion to make a splash in a otherwise sea of people saying look the other way while people get raped right in front of your eyes.
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The thread title is misleading and the only reason you made this is because you are mad at losing, keep improving, get better and have more skill than the hacker , and you will win regardless.
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I've just played 1 hacker since HotS. I however have been called a hacker insanely many times. I just think psychologically people are looking for ways to be able to say "I played better than you even if I lost".
I don't mind Blizzard's approach. On one hand you have the way Blizzard does things, which is I believe better in taking the hackers out of the society eventually, on the other Blizzard would be more making examples out of hackers to try prevent people from hacking in the first place. This is just a lot harder task to do, since you are always chasing the hackers.
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On May 18 2013 01:03 shivver wrote:
post if im sick of hackers? I'm absolutely sick of everything that is related to blizzard in terms of customer service
they're a complete and total joke, their technical support forum is a laughing stock just go in there and look at all the frustrated people
Thank you your post is respected, unlike the other people here trying to attack me in every which way possible. Not to say I don't deserve a little of it. I KNOW I KNOW my post sucks shit. OK I GET IT. Now lets get to what really matters. Killing these fucking hackers dead.
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On May 18 2013 01:05 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 01:01 S2Lunar wrote:
Why the fuck are you so aggressive in all your posts? I don't understand why you have to come off like a dick to make a point? Because that is how I roll. I'm an aggro boss, taking a stand in a mire of weird TL introverts. I'm blowing things way out of proportion to make a splash in a otherwise sea of people saying look the other way while people get raped right in front of your eyes.
You could have simply said that you were pissed off, but instead you opted to insult your readers. Nice choice :D
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On May 18 2013 01:06 GGzerG wrote:
The thread title is misleading and the only reason you made this is because you are mad at losing, keep improving, get better and have more skill than the hacker , and you will win regardless.
GGZerg Please take your high horse and GTFO please. Again IT WAS UNRANKED. I WAS OFFRACING. I DONT CARE THAT I LOST. I DO CARE THAT SOMEONE IN DIAMOND COULD LOSE TO HIM. I DO CARE THAT THESE HACKS EXIST. GGzerg you are so odd.
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This threads getting out of control haha ^
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On May 18 2013 01:08 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 01:05 Moochlol wrote:On May 18 2013 01:01 S2Lunar wrote:
Why the fuck are you so aggressive in all your posts? I don't understand why you have to come off like a dick to make a point? Because that is how I roll. I'm an aggro boss, taking a stand in a mire of weird TL introverts. I'm blowing things way out of proportion to make a splash in a otherwise sea of people saying look the other way while people get raped right in front of your eyes. You could have simply said that you were pissed off, but instead you opted to insult your readers. Nice choice :D
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Insults readers, sometimes broadly sometimes specifically, then wonders why nobody is taking him seriously. Yeah I don't see this faring too well. ._.
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I'm not sure i'd say hacking is much more rampant then it was in wings. I probably hit over the course of 3 to 400 games a season 1 or 2 hackers in every 50 games. This is probably more visible and rampant the higher you get as most hackers reach masters or gm status before they get caught. If they can't at least hit masters they are a pretty terrible hacker, as even gold league mechanics with perfect information should get you to masters.
I'm not entirely sure there is much blizzard can do besides investigate reports and ban accounts. You have to remember though that the hacker can simply buy a new account and give it the same name and be back in business. Perfect example I was watching catz stream vs a hacker a few weeks ago. The hacker admitted to having something like 15 accounts ban in wings. So they obviously do ban the accounts but they don't ban the user, because that's really difficult to do.
At bare minimum by reporting you are increasing the cost to hack for the hacker. By getting accounts ban and forcing them to buy new accounts to continue to hack. If they are willing to go to that extent there is not really a whole lot else anyone can do. Aside from blizzard continuing to try to make warden a better cheat detection program of course.
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so can we get a few more replays while i go make some popcorn please?
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I have to attack you all, because you attack me. That is how this works. BTW when was the last batch ban. 2011?
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On May 18 2013 01:03 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:58 HardlyNever wrote:On May 18 2013 00:51 Moochlol wrote:On May 18 2013 00:50 HardlyNever wrote:
I've only played one hacker this season. Reported him on b.net and in the TL hacker thread (he was already in there). While it sucks to be hacked, I have to say the number seems incredibly low. In over 3000 games, I'd say there are less than 30 that I feel like might have had some kind of hacker. Only about half of those would I say I am almost certain there were hacks being used. The other half are just likely, but luck does happen. We're talking about less than 1% of games I've played, and I've been playing since beta.
That said, I would like to seem them be a little more aggressive with obvious and repeat offenders. Hacking is what ruined the WC3 ladder, and they don't need to come anywhere close to repeating that mistake. Exactly, thank you. We don't need this to spiral out of control, blizzard needs to be more aggo. Ok, but less than 1% of games is not "flooded with hackers." It is a very rare occurrence. You're blowing this way out of proportion because you got hacked once, maybe twice in one week (on a bad string of luck). But it wouldn't hurt to keep a bug in David Kim's ear that we still see hackers every once in a while. Just don't make it out to be much worse than it currently is. LOLLLLLL wow, so say I exaggerated this OP, which I may just fucking have. WHATS THE WORST that could happen if we blow this out of proportion. Blizzard actually changes there stance on cheating, and does more than just batch bans with not a single GM doing jack shit? TL please get real.
You need to grow up and learn how to communicate effectively on the internet. You're not helping your case by replying like a 10 year old. The issue you are talking about is real, just much less serious than you claim. Put yourself in Blizzard's shoes. If they see some 10 year old saying "omg lol I got hacked this game is crap its flooded with hackers blizz u suck dooo something nnnowowwww omg dota lol so much better lol" (this is how you sound, btw) are you going to take that person seriously? Are you going to take their problem seriously? Blizzard won't and I wouldn't blame them.
Blowing it out of proportion makes you seem like an immature, whiny asshole who is just complaining because he lost; not someone with a real problem that needs to be addressed.
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