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On May 18 2013 00:21 nkr wrote:
I've played one hacker so far, you must be very unlucky or very paranoid ;p
I'm with this guy, it seems OP acts like there's a > 50% chance of meeting a hacker on ladder which is ridiculous and makes me think you are the paranoid type who screams out 'HACKER' when someone intercepts one of your drops.
Can you provide evidence of the 'flood of hackers' you speak of (not just by pointing the TL hacker thread exists)?
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On May 18 2013 00:26 Skiblet wrote:
NA seems to have the most players on it. However even then playing at GM/high master I very rarely played against a hacker... maybe 1/40 games would be vs a hacker?
As it stands the NA ladder is VERY paranoid about hackers. I get called a hacker every single time I open robo and counter my opponents Dark templar rush in PvP. You to me seem like one of the people who would call someone a hacker purely because of paranoia.
Not saying you are, just the way you come off is like that.
No I do not just blame shit on hacks. Stop trying to turn this around on me. And just agree that the way blizzard deals with hacks is braindead.
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On May 18 2013 00:27 dani` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:21 nkr wrote:
I've played one hacker so far, you must be very unlucky or very paranoid ;p I'm with this guy, it seems OP acts like there's a > 50% chance of meeting a hacker on ladder which is ridiculous and makes me think you are the paranoid type who screams out 'HACKER' when someone intercepts one of your drops. Can you provide evidence of the 'flood of hackers' you speak of (not just by pointing the TL hacker thread exists)?
Can you people stop attacking me and fking accept the fact that this season has RIDICULOUS amounts of maphacks?
Watch any stream and witness how many hackers show up.
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On May 18 2013 00:28 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:26 Skiblet wrote:
NA seems to have the most players on it. However even then playing at GM/high master I very rarely played against a hacker... maybe 1/40 games would be vs a hacker?
As it stands the NA ladder is VERY paranoid about hackers. I get called a hacker every single time I open robo and counter my opponents Dark templar rush in PvP. You to me seem like one of the people who would call someone a hacker purely because of paranoia.
Not saying you are, just the way you come off is like that. No I do not just blame shit on hacks. Stop trying to turn this around on me. And just agree that the way blizzard deals with hacks is braindead.
Stawwp disagreeing and JUST AGREE!
This is how you sound, you make a poor thread and reply poorly too it and expect us all to bite, you sound more paranoid then not and frankly I have yet to really meet any hackers playing or even ones I'm suspicious of
TLDR; stop blaming hacking for your losses, get better and make better thread content
On May 18 2013 00:29 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:27 dani` wrote:On May 18 2013 00:21 nkr wrote:
I've played one hacker so far, you must be very unlucky or very paranoid ;p I'm with this guy, it seems OP acts like there's a > 50% chance of meeting a hacker on ladder which is ridiculous and makes me think you are the paranoid type who screams out 'HACKER' when someone intercepts one of your drops. Can you provide evidence of the 'flood of hackers' you speak of (not just by pointing the TL hacker thread exists)? Can you people stop attacking me and fking accept the fact that this season has RIDICULOUS amounts of maphacks? Watch any stream and witness how many hackers show up.
Link some proof.
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On May 18 2013 00:29 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:27 dani` wrote:On May 18 2013 00:21 nkr wrote:
I've played one hacker so far, you must be very unlucky or very paranoid ;p I'm with this guy, it seems OP acts like there's a > 50% chance of meeting a hacker on ladder which is ridiculous and makes me think you are the paranoid type who screams out 'HACKER' when someone intercepts one of your drops. Can you provide evidence of the 'flood of hackers' you speak of (not just by pointing the TL hacker thread exists)? Can you people stop attacking me and fking accept the fact that this season has RIDICULOUS amounts of maphacks? Watch any stream and witness how many hackers show up.
No one is attacking you, but people are attacking your arguments, which are none. Saying you are facing hackers doesn't mean that blizzard are doing a bad job, or that you are even facing hackers.
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On May 18 2013 00:29 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:27 dani` wrote:On May 18 2013 00:21 nkr wrote:
I've played one hacker so far, you must be very unlucky or very paranoid ;p I'm with this guy, it seems OP acts like there's a > 50% chance of meeting a hacker on ladder which is ridiculous and makes me think you are the paranoid type who screams out 'HACKER' when someone intercepts one of your drops. Can you provide evidence of the 'flood of hackers' you speak of (not just by pointing the TL hacker thread exists)? Can you people stop attacking me and fking accept the fact that this season has RIDICULOUS amounts of maphacks?
Can you people stop making threads like this and fking accept the fact that there aren't that many maphackers?
See how easy it is to make a claim like this without any proof whatsoever? 
By the way, if you think they're going away any time soon, you must be new to Blizzard's modus operandi. lol
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On May 18 2013 00:29 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:27 dani` wrote:On May 18 2013 00:21 nkr wrote:
I've played one hacker so far, you must be very unlucky or very paranoid ;p I'm with this guy, it seems OP acts like there's a > 50% chance of meeting a hacker on ladder which is ridiculous and makes me think you are the paranoid type who screams out 'HACKER' when someone intercepts one of your drops. Can you provide evidence of the 'flood of hackers' you speak of (not just by pointing the TL hacker thread exists)? Can you people stop attacking me and fking accept the fact that this season has RIDICULOUS amounts of maphacks? Watch any stream and witness how many hackers show up.
I'm getting the feeling that some among us don't feel this season has RIDICULOUS amounts of maphack. Incredible.
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Yeah you're really do seem like a guy whose just mad. Not trying to troll you but I am being serious. There is not a "flood" of hackers. Yes, I do 100% agree that the way blizzard deals with hackers is really stupid and ineffective. Like its ridiculous when a guy can stay in top 50 GM playing pros while they stream and they still maphack.
however you make it sounds as if this is a huge crisis in Starcraft 2 at the moment when it really isn't. Like I said, i get called a maphacker several times a day because I got a lucky blind counter on one of their builds.
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There should be a rule in the TL 10 commandments like 10.1 where if you have an argument or position, and it falls apart, following up with "accept the fact" is bannable : P I never thought I'd be so agitated by such a ridiculous assertion as if I were to accept some wood leagues excuse on hacking because he losses games and blames Blizzard for it, it's worse then balance threads.
We all agree Blizzard could either A) allow 3rd party (chaos plugin for BW) to be created or B) make warden ban upon hacking and not ban wave it but don't use this as a platform to cry fowl due to your poor play.
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Haven't had to play against a hacker so far after around ~200 ladder games. Not much I know, still no hackers in sight :D
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Wow I cant believe you people, ok let me give a replay. You want so damn glorious OP with img's and all this fluff for a simple point? http://drop.sc/335323 There witness that guys blatent fullblown working maphack.
BTW, dont lecture me on "playing better" I get by just fine in my day to day gaming. And my playing is not the issue here.
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On May 18 2013 00:35 Moochlol wrote:Wow I cant believe you people, ok let me give a replay. You want so damn glorious OP with img's and all this fluff for a simple point? http://drop.sc/335323 There witness that guys blatent fullblown working maphack. BTW, dont lecture me on "playing better" I get by just fine in my day to day gaming. And my playing is not the issue here.
One time is no time. Yes there are a few hackers out there and yes everyone will probably face them at one point, but you are doing nothing to change the minds of people
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On May 18 2013 00:35 Moochlol wrote:Wow I cant believe you people, ok let me give a replay. You want so damn glorious OP with img's and all this fluff for a simple point? http://drop.sc/335323 There witness that guys blatent fullblown working maphack. BTW, dont lecture me on "playing better" I get by just fine in my day to day gaming. And my playing is not the issue here.
Son, please... Take a minute, take a breathe and go outside to get your mind off things... Your rage will consume you almost worse then Twitch chat consumes eSports.
Now EVEN if that single link, which I highly doubt by how your posting holds up and IF it did then you could post it in the general hackers thread to get verified, that's a single case you've managed to scoop up and not this ridiculous assertion of >50% that you seemingly imply.
TLDR; All my posts (and most others) in this thread aim towards you just playing bad and blaming hacking when, in all likelihood, its just you playing poorly and getting beat.
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well, I played 450 games last season and about 100 this season and have had 0 hackers. Im on NA server btw too (maybe I should switch to KR or something lol). Or maybe I did play against hackers, but I mighta just beaten them anyways. BUT I have been called a hacker on quite the number of occasions after someone would lose, then flame me saying im a fucking hacker and a fucking scrub blah blah blah and then proceed to ignore me so I can't even msg them back explaining to them why the lost!
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On May 18 2013 00:34 Skiblet wrote:
Yeah you're really do seem like a guy whose just mad. Not trying to troll you but I am being serious. There is not a "flood" of hackers. Yes, I do 100% agree that the way blizzard deals with hackers is really stupid and ineffective. Like its ridiculous when a guy can stay in top 50 GM playing pros while they stream and they still maphack.
however you make it sounds as if this is a huge crisis in Starcraft 2 at the moment when it really isn't. Like I said, i get called a maphacker several times a day because I got a lucky blind counter on one of their builds.
Ok the title is extreme, and yes I am mad, and I am tierd and ranting. But STILL there are alot of hackers out there atm, something should be done. Just as you people say, I haven't played a hacker yet, i'm sure you have you just didn't watch the replay. The point is there is TONS of free working hacks for the current version of sc2, and batch banning is not very effective. Increasing defense system/adding Game Admins, should be taken seriously
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On May 18 2013 00:28 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:26 Skiblet wrote:
NA seems to have the most players on it. However even then playing at GM/high master I very rarely played against a hacker... maybe 1/40 games would be vs a hacker?
As it stands the NA ladder is VERY paranoid about hackers. I get called a hacker every single time I open robo and counter my opponents Dark templar rush in PvP. You to me seem like one of the people who would call someone a hacker purely because of paranoia.
Not saying you are, just the way you come off is like that. No I do not just blame shit on hacks. Stop trying to turn this around on me. And just agree that the way blizzard deals with hacks is braindead.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411717
You should check out this thread.
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This guy is simply suggesting that we bring it up tonight on SOTG as it is obviously an important issue. Im so disgusted by the people here arguing that i normally wouldn't even bother getting into it; however, i feel strongly that hacking is an issue that needs to be addressed. He doesnt need to be in GM, he doesnt even need to prove that he played against maphackers himself. The fact of the matter is that Hackers Are An Issue. If you have half a brain and watch any of the featured streamers, they will ALL speak to this. If you respond to me prepare to get your asshole torn apart because you're wrong.
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On May 18 2013 00:37 Hitch-22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:35 Moochlol wrote:Wow I cant believe you people, ok let me give a replay. You want so damn glorious OP with img's and all this fluff for a simple point? http://drop.sc/335323 There witness that guys blatent fullblown working maphack. BTW, dont lecture me on "playing better" I get by just fine in my day to day gaming. And my playing is not the issue here. Son, please... Take a minute, take a breathe and go outside to get your mind off things... Your rage will consume you almost worse then Twitch chat consumes eSports. Now EVEN if that single link, which I highly doubt by how your posting holds up and IF it did then you could post it in the general hackers thread to get verified, that's a single case you've managed to scoop up and not this ridiculous assertion of >50% that you seemingly imply. TLDR; All my posts (and most others) in this thread aim towards you just playing bad and blaming hacking when, in all likelihood, its just you playing poorly and getting beat.
Exuse me? 50%? When did I say 50%? What the fck are you people talking about. I have played 3 hackers in about 50 games. Is that 50% where you comes from? Get real, AGAIN, stop attacking me, like you people always do. I have nothing to do with this, It IS an important topic, and it needs to be discussed and not just shoved under the rug LIKE IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
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Hacks have always been around and will always be around for games.
I don't disagree that a more active approach would be great but they are fighting a losing battle.
Ultimately streaming and the pro scene is the best deterrent. If you are hacking in lower leagues oh well that is just sad. If you are hacking to get to gm or even try and win events you will get found out and any chance of success ends. So ultimately you deal with the few hackers and move on. For the record I don't hack but have been accused in games before so sometimes you think someone is but they just got lucky or played well.
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On May 18 2013 00:40 Moochlol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 00:37 Hitch-22 wrote:On May 18 2013 00:35 Moochlol wrote:Wow I cant believe you people, ok let me give a replay. You want so damn glorious OP with img's and all this fluff for a simple point? http://drop.sc/335323 There witness that guys blatent fullblown working maphack. BTW, dont lecture me on "playing better" I get by just fine in my day to day gaming. And my playing is not the issue here. Son, please... Take a minute, take a breathe and go outside to get your mind off things... Your rage will consume you almost worse then Twitch chat consumes eSports. Now EVEN if that single link, which I highly doubt by how your posting holds up and IF it did then you could post it in the general hackers thread to get verified, that's a single case you've managed to scoop up and not this ridiculous assertion of >50% that you seemingly imply. TLDR; All my posts (and most others) in this thread aim towards you just playing bad and blaming hacking when, in all likelihood, its just you playing poorly and getting beat. Exuse me? 50%? When did I say 50%? What the fck are you people talking about. I have played 3 hackers in about 50 games. Is that 50% where you comes from? Get real, AGAIN, stop attacking me, like you people always do.
Maybe people "attack you" because you throw tantrums and it's entertaining to watch. It's highly unlikely you've played any hackers so get over it please and stop feeding the troll known as human enjoyment because this entire conversation I can just picture hands being thrown up and spit spewing from your mouth like a comic character as you yell with a lisp, this is how your position sounds to me as you type and it's quite comical to say the least. Stop getting so worked up and make a standing argument to support your case with proof; no one is just going to take your word there's this onslaught of hackers.
NOW IF you've been hacked a bunch, as I said, report it to the general hacking thread AND Blizzard but TL and it's community can't do anything on your "alleged" reports of hacking so why are you here making a separate thread from the general hacking thread and spamming the forums with a terrible thread, horrendous replies and an all around attitude that brings everyone back to 3rd grade.
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