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BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) — Planned changes to the Republican Party's presidential selection process are part of a rebuilding process that will strengthen the GOP brand and hopefully make its presidential nominee more competitive in 2016, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told California Republicans on Friday, calling the GOP's current primary process "a complete disaster."
Priebus said shortening the primary process by moving up the national convention at which the nominee is typically selected to June and cutting the number of debates are "not an establishment takeover. This is using your brain. Everything's not a conspiracy."
"I think a traveling circus of debates is insanity in this party," Priebus told about 200 delegates. "We're proposing to have fewer than 10, and this time around, we're going to pick the moderators."
Priebus is proposing to hold just 10 debates for the would-be GOP nominees in 2016, compared with the 27 held ahead of the 2012 race in which former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was eventually selected as the party's nominee.
The chairman also touted a key victory this week in a hard-fought Florida congressional race that is seen as a possible bellwether of November midterm election. Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink in a special election Tuesday that largely turned on President Barack Obama's health care law.
This is a bold move that is clearly aimed at being anti-teaparty. Tea party candidates tend to throw a huge fit and make their more reasonable counterparts look weak or lacking in fortitude. This will allow the GOP to basically make sure only a moderate will be able to make a big impact.
Edit: And with this in mind, am I the only one crazy enough to think that the GOP may end up needing to have a candidate who is pro gay marriage and pro marijuana legalization? I think this change to their primary may indicate that they are finding they need to have a democratic way of making sure that happens.
I think your second point is crazy-ish because social conservatives are still the bed rock of the parties support.
BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) — Planned changes to the Republican Party's presidential selection process are part of a rebuilding process that will strengthen the GOP brand and hopefully make its presidential nominee more competitive in 2016, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told California Republicans on Friday, calling the GOP's current primary process "a complete disaster."
Priebus said shortening the primary process by moving up the national convention at which the nominee is typically selected to June and cutting the number of debates are "not an establishment takeover. This is using your brain. Everything's not a conspiracy."
"I think a traveling circus of debates is insanity in this party," Priebus told about 200 delegates. "We're proposing to have fewer than 10, and this time around, we're going to pick the moderators."
Priebus is proposing to hold just 10 debates for the would-be GOP nominees in 2016, compared with the 27 held ahead of the 2012 race in which former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was eventually selected as the party's nominee.
The chairman also touted a key victory this week in a hard-fought Florida congressional race that is seen as a possible bellwether of November midterm election. Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink in a special election Tuesday that largely turned on President Barack Obama's health care law.
This is a bold move that is clearly aimed at being anti-teaparty. Tea party candidates tend to throw a huge fit and make their more reasonable counterparts look weak or lacking in fortitude. This will allow the GOP to basically make sure only a moderate will be able to make a big impact.
Edit: And with this in mind, am I the only one crazy enough to think that the GOP may end up needing to have a candidate who is pro gay marriage and pro marijuana legalization? I think this change to their primary may indicate that they are finding they need to have a democratic way of making sure that happens.
I think your second point is crazy-ish because social conservatives are still the bed rock of the parties support.
I think it actually makes sense. You're not going to win with someone who has 19th century attitudes towards social issues.There's also a giant group of non voters that just waits to be persuaded.
BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) — Planned changes to the Republican Party's presidential selection process are part of a rebuilding process that will strengthen the GOP brand and hopefully make its presidential nominee more competitive in 2016, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told California Republicans on Friday, calling the GOP's current primary process "a complete disaster."
Priebus said shortening the primary process by moving up the national convention at which the nominee is typically selected to June and cutting the number of debates are "not an establishment takeover. This is using your brain. Everything's not a conspiracy."
"I think a traveling circus of debates is insanity in this party," Priebus told about 200 delegates. "We're proposing to have fewer than 10, and this time around, we're going to pick the moderators."
Priebus is proposing to hold just 10 debates for the would-be GOP nominees in 2016, compared with the 27 held ahead of the 2012 race in which former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was eventually selected as the party's nominee.
The chairman also touted a key victory this week in a hard-fought Florida congressional race that is seen as a possible bellwether of November midterm election. Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink in a special election Tuesday that largely turned on President Barack Obama's health care law.
This is a bold move that is clearly aimed at being anti-teaparty. Tea party candidates tend to throw a huge fit and make their more reasonable counterparts look weak or lacking in fortitude. This will allow the GOP to basically make sure only a moderate will be able to make a big impact.
Edit: And with this in mind, am I the only one crazy enough to think that the GOP may end up needing to have a candidate who is pro gay marriage and pro marijuana legalization? I think this change to their primary may indicate that they are finding they need to have a democratic way of making sure that happens.
I think your second point is crazy-ish because social conservatives are still the bed rock of the parties support.
I think it actually makes sense. You're not going to win with someone who has 19th century attitudes towards social issues.There's also a giant group of non voters that just waits to be persuaded.
I agree that you dont, which is why I think the Democrats will win the presidency in '16 despite everything assuming Hillary runs, but the power structures in the Republican party are set up in favor of more conservative groupings. Romney was the most moderate person outside of Huntsman in their primary and he basically 'won' by default -- everyone else in there at some point was ahead of him, even total fraudsters like Herman Caine. And when he lost members of the GOP said something like 'we went with a moderate and we lost because Democrats already occupy that position, we need to be more extreme"
well duh their primary is a liability because they need to swerve far right to win that shit. if possible they'll probably want to have the RNC just be nice speeches and bullshit but keep the campaigning in invite only blackbox operations.
how many candidates were basically ruined because of fucking up in the debates? 27 public debates is really a lot of chances for people to make harmful slip-ups.
BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) — Planned changes to the Republican Party's presidential selection process are part of a rebuilding process that will strengthen the GOP brand and hopefully make its presidential nominee more competitive in 2016, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told California Republicans on Friday, calling the GOP's current primary process "a complete disaster."
Priebus said shortening the primary process by moving up the national convention at which the nominee is typically selected to June and cutting the number of debates are "not an establishment takeover. This is using your brain. Everything's not a conspiracy."
"I think a traveling circus of debates is insanity in this party," Priebus told about 200 delegates. "We're proposing to have fewer than 10, and this time around, we're going to pick the moderators."
Priebus is proposing to hold just 10 debates for the would-be GOP nominees in 2016, compared with the 27 held ahead of the 2012 race in which former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was eventually selected as the party's nominee.
The chairman also touted a key victory this week in a hard-fought Florida congressional race that is seen as a possible bellwether of November midterm election. Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink in a special election Tuesday that largely turned on President Barack Obama's health care law.
This is a bold move that is clearly aimed at being anti-teaparty. Tea party candidates tend to throw a huge fit and make their more reasonable counterparts look weak or lacking in fortitude. This will allow the GOP to basically make sure only a moderate will be able to make a big impact.
Edit: And with this in mind, am I the only one crazy enough to think that the GOP may end up needing to have a candidate who is pro gay marriage and pro marijuana legalization? I think this change to their primary may indicate that they are finding they need to have a democratic way of making sure that happens.
I think your second point is crazy-ish because social conservatives are still the bed rock of the parties support.
I think it actually makes sense. You're not going to win with someone who has 19th century attitudes towards social issues.There's also a giant group of non voters that just waits to be persuaded.
I agree that you dont, which is why I think the Democrats will win the presidency in '16 despite everything assuming Hillary runs, but the power structures in the Republican party are set up in favor of more conservative groupings. Romney was the most moderate person outside of Huntsman in their primary and he basically 'won' by default -- everyone else in there at some point was ahead of him, even total fraudsters like Herman Caine. And when he lost members of the GOP said something like 'we went with a moderate and we lost because Democrats already occupy that position, we need to be more extreme"
It may sound ridiculous but the only way I think the Republicans are going to win again is if they become some kind of grassroots, "down to earth" party. Like socially progressive and libertarian, in favor of giving rights to the states and the people or something like that.
From a foreigners perspective I find it really surprising that they still get the votes they get, but I think it's reasonable to assume that their voter-base is eroding.
On March 16 2014 13:28 SnipedSoul wrote: Republicans need to stop alienating women, minorities, gays, and poor people if they want to win the 2016 election.
One thing they should start doing more of is to stop listening to the political analysts that tell them they'll alienate women, minorities, gays, and the poor. If we need anything now it's less Balkanization and more rejuvenating the economy for everyone. Only some vocal parts of these labeled parties like being coddled in that manner, not majorities.
BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) — Planned changes to the Republican Party's presidential selection process are part of a rebuilding process that will strengthen the GOP brand and hopefully make its presidential nominee more competitive in 2016, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told California Republicans on Friday, calling the GOP's current primary process "a complete disaster."
Priebus said shortening the primary process by moving up the national convention at which the nominee is typically selected to June and cutting the number of debates are "not an establishment takeover. This is using your brain. Everything's not a conspiracy."
"I think a traveling circus of debates is insanity in this party," Priebus told about 200 delegates. "We're proposing to have fewer than 10, and this time around, we're going to pick the moderators."
Priebus is proposing to hold just 10 debates for the would-be GOP nominees in 2016, compared with the 27 held ahead of the 2012 race in which former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was eventually selected as the party's nominee.
The chairman also touted a key victory this week in a hard-fought Florida congressional race that is seen as a possible bellwether of November midterm election. Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink in a special election Tuesday that largely turned on President Barack Obama's health care law.
This is a bold move that is clearly aimed at being anti-teaparty. Tea party candidates tend to throw a huge fit and make their more reasonable counterparts look weak or lacking in fortitude. This will allow the GOP to basically make sure only a moderate will be able to make a big impact.
Edit: And with this in mind, am I the only one crazy enough to think that the GOP may end up needing to have a candidate who is pro gay marriage and pro marijuana legalization? I think this change to their primary may indicate that they are finding they need to have a democratic way of making sure that happens.
The GOP establishment has always wanted to pick their candidates. They want the moderates with syrupy amnesty schemes for business and no strong positions on social issues. It sure worked well with McCain and Romney. I wonder if they'll get a third chance to muck it up with Christie as a nominee.
BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) — Planned changes to the Republican Party's presidential selection process are part of a rebuilding process that will strengthen the GOP brand and hopefully make its presidential nominee more competitive in 2016, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told California Republicans on Friday, calling the GOP's current primary process "a complete disaster."
Priebus said shortening the primary process by moving up the national convention at which the nominee is typically selected to June and cutting the number of debates are "not an establishment takeover. This is using your brain. Everything's not a conspiracy."
"I think a traveling circus of debates is insanity in this party," Priebus told about 200 delegates. "We're proposing to have fewer than 10, and this time around, we're going to pick the moderators."
Priebus is proposing to hold just 10 debates for the would-be GOP nominees in 2016, compared with the 27 held ahead of the 2012 race in which former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was eventually selected as the party's nominee.
The chairman also touted a key victory this week in a hard-fought Florida congressional race that is seen as a possible bellwether of November midterm election. Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink in a special election Tuesday that largely turned on President Barack Obama's health care law.
This is a bold move that is clearly aimed at being anti-teaparty. Tea party candidates tend to throw a huge fit and make their more reasonable counterparts look weak or lacking in fortitude. This will allow the GOP to basically make sure only a moderate will be able to make a big impact.
Edit: And with this in mind, am I the only one crazy enough to think that the GOP may end up needing to have a candidate who is pro gay marriage and pro marijuana legalization? I think this change to their primary may indicate that they are finding they need to have a democratic way of making sure that happens.
I think your second point is crazy-ish because social conservatives are still the bed rock of the parties support.
I think it actually makes sense. You're not going to win with someone who has 19th century attitudes towards social issues.There's also a giant group of non voters that just waits to be persuaded.
I agree that you dont, which is why I think the Democrats will win the presidency in '16 despite everything assuming Hillary runs, but the power structures in the Republican party are set up in favor of more conservative groupings. Romney was the most moderate person outside of Huntsman in their primary and he basically 'won' by default -- everyone else in there at some point was ahead of him, even total fraudsters like Herman Caine. And when he lost members of the GOP said something like 'we went with a moderate and we lost because Democrats already occupy that position, we need to be more extreme"
It may sound ridiculous but the only way I think the Republicans are going to win again is if they become some kind of grassroots, "down to earth" party.
Thats what the tea party in theory was trying to be, here is Herman Caine's anthem he used in the campaign:
And ya, see Danglers' response to you, I think his viewpoint is probably reflective of a large minority of current Republican voters and I'd say that group is also the most likely to show up and vote.
The whole idea of political parties existing as private organizations seems absurd to me, considering how thoroughly intertwined they are with the apparatus of government.
I wonder what the republican party will turn into in the future; it does seem to be about due for an evolution of its form.
Wouldn't they always be private organizations, considering that private individuals elect some from their ranks to public office? In fact, to my memory, the only public organizations running candidates seem to be the likes of Kim Jong-Un, or maybe the ranks of the People's Republic of China. It is kind of a tricky business.
On March 16 2014 13:28 SnipedSoul wrote: Republicans need to stop alienating women, minorities, gays, and poor people if they want to win the 2016 election.
Or they could come up with a plausible way to unleash economic growth and win in a landslide.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, minutes after the Friday announcement, tweeted: “Every American should worry about Obama giving up control of the Internet to an undefined group. This is very, very dangerous.” And that’s just a start. “This is red meat for the base,” said former Rep. Mary Bono (R-Calif.), who sponsored a resolution in 2012 aimed at keeping the Internet free of governmental control. “We’re at a critical time where [Russian President Vladimir] Putin is proving he is capable of outmaneuvering the administration. … As they digest it, I think people are going to be very upset.”
I think the GOP doesn't really know what the internet is and what the ICANN does. Could someone please enlighten me how giving the authority to handle the webs identifiers, domains and adresses to a UN non-profit leads to Vladimir Putin controlling the internet?
On March 17 2014 01:48 Nyxisto wrote: I think the GOP doesn't really know what the internet is and what the ICANN does. Could someone please enlighten me how giving the authority to handle the webs identifiers, domains and adresses to a UN non-profit leads to Vladimir Putin controlling the internet?
It doesn't but it removed power from the US which is (almost) always against the GOP interests.
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