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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 18:54:02
October 08 2017 18:53 GMT
#179021
thought this was funny

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 08 2017 18:55 GMT
#179022
This "Resist 24/7" crap is getting quite annoying. Lends credence to the cultural aspects of the conservative criticisms at the very least. The scummiest of scum in Washington are expected to be supported uncritically because nothing is more important than stopping Trump.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 08 2017 18:56 GMT
#179023
There is nothing better for a President slipping in the polls than a war. Unfortunately all Trump has is shitty culture wars.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 18:58:00
October 08 2017 18:57 GMT
#179024
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 19:00:34
October 08 2017 18:57 GMT
#179025
On October 09 2017 03:52 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2017 03:48 Saryph wrote:
On October 09 2017 03:46 zlefin wrote:
On October 09 2017 03:26 Saryph wrote:
How much does it cost taxpayers for Pence to go to an NFL game with the plan of walking out if anyone kneels?


hard to estimate, a lot of expenses apply whereever pence goes anyways, hard to filter out the actual difference in such a situation. probably not too much, but I haven't thought carefully enough to get an accurate sense.
I'm also disinclined to think pence would actually walk out if there's a kneel, does'nt seem like the strategy he's been going for.


I don't get the last part of your post, do you mean that you think Trump ordered him to, or that he didn't walk out?




I hadn't heard that he in fact walked out; I only saw the tweet about trump saying pence would walk out.
I don't see all in-thread tweets, since I had to disable some stuff or else TL just crashes.
I'm surprised pence was willing to do that; Pence seems to have had a policy of staying out of the news as much as possible.


Oh sorry about the tweets not showing up for you, i'll summarize:

WSJ: Vice President Pence's decision to leave the Colts game furthers the feud between the White House and the NFL http://on.wsj.com/2fWmArU

Peter Alexander (NBC National Correspondent): FLAG: Was Pence leaving Colts game a political stunt? Reporters were told to stay in van bc "there may be an early departure from the game."

So it comes across as planned out, so a counter-protest of sorts by the administration, which made me wonder how much we as taxpayers are paying for this publicity stunt.

Edit: Also, who thought this was a good idea with all the stories about wasted taxpayer money due to chartered flights?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 19:04:39
October 08 2017 19:02 GMT
#179026
As a pure guess, I'd say it cost ten grand;
I think the taxpayer waste topic won't come up; the flag/racial stuff overrides it. noone's gonna pay attention to the waste angle. at least not enough people to matter. politically, the trump base eats up nonsense actions like that. So I expect they won't suffer politically for it.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 19:15:41
October 08 2017 19:14 GMT
#179027
This administration is so incredibly petty it's sad.
Using government resources to divide the country even further. This is actually the only job they're doing rather well.
Although one could argue that these conflicts were brewing for years and years and are now being catalyzed and hopefully brought to a conclusion that befits society.
passive quaranstream fan
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 08 2017 19:21 GMT
#179028
Someone could try kneeling in the WH. Maybe they leave the WH then?
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
October 08 2017 19:39 GMT
#179029


"A C32 (AF2) costs $42,936/hour. Pence flew 2.5 hours from Vegas to Indianapolis and then flew back to LA"

Then security costs, etc etc.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22473 Posts
October 08 2017 20:03 GMT
#179030
When the anthem discussion was going on in this thread a Republican here was against it because it caused division when the country should be uniting.

The VP flew to a game with the sole purpose of making headlines by walking out on an inevitable protest.
Talk about artificially creating division.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 20:22:43
October 08 2017 20:03 GMT
#179031
We've officially entered the Groucho Marx Administration. Picture VP tweeted of him a the game is from 2014.

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 08 2017 20:05 GMT
#179032
I don't get it. Is there a point to the tweet?
passive quaranstream fan
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 20:07:55
October 08 2017 20:07 GMT
#179033
On October 09 2017 05:05 Artisreal wrote:
I don't get it. Is there a point to the tweet?


"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
October 08 2017 20:07 GMT
#179034
I assume the point is he posted a selfie from three years ago saying he was expectantly waiting for a game today to start.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 08 2017 20:09 GMT
#179035
Administration continues towing the line of keeping politics out of football.

Continues it by planning a protest leave with a politician.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 20:11:09
October 08 2017 20:10 GMT
#179036
On October 09 2017 05:05 Artisreal wrote:
I don't get it. Is there a point to the tweet?

I don't understand it either.

Edit : I see now
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 08 2017 20:12 GMT
#179037
You have to click it, to see the full tweet. Embedded it looks completely pointless.

And not sure why it was worth posting here. Also I guess the mod note on top of the thread is really meaningless nowadays.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22473 Posts
October 08 2017 20:14 GMT
#179038
On October 09 2017 05:12 mahrgell wrote:
You have to click it, to see the full tweet. Embedded it looks completely pointless.

And not sure why it was worth posting here. Also I guess the mod note on top of the thread is really meaningless nowadays.

The fact he reused a picture from 2014 for a tweet about the game today reinforced the fact that this was a planned publicity stunt to continue Trumps war on the NFL.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 20:17:05
October 08 2017 20:15 GMT
#179039
It's not relevant that the Vice President did a publicity stunt and pretended that a picture from 2014 was from today? Clearly they faked even being prepared to watch the game and were planning to walk out from the beginning. Also if you're doing a publicity stunt best not to make it obviously a publicity stunt.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-08 20:19:29
October 08 2017 20:18 GMT
#179040
First thing I thought when I saw the Pence headline (and only the headline) was that it was a stunt. He knew before the game that the protest would happen. Too obvious.
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