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Karis Vas Ryaar
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Nevuk
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On October 09 2017 01:28 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/917045348820049920 In response to these tweets | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On October 09 2017 01:16 pmh wrote: Trump is just bluffing in the korea situation,not the first time. The only thing that will work obviously is to remove kim from power, This is just a meaningless aphorism unless you provide the actual way to achieve this goal. What are the steps to "remove kim from power" as you put it? Attacking Korea head on is pointless, because of their Nuclear capability, and they don't have a functional democracy or public discourse which can be influenced to push Kim out of power. In such a scenario, how does this obvious solution of yours work? | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On October 09 2017 01:28 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/917045348820049920 LOL now that is what I like to see. | ||
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Introvert
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zlefin
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farvacola
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On October 09 2017 01:59 Introvert wrote: Fake bravery from a man who recently decided not to run again. And Trump is right, Corker DID want to be SoS and he does shoulder a lot of blame for the Iran deal going through Congress the way it did. Both of these people are obnoxious. Trump appreciates your real bravery in the war against petty tweets, I'm sure. Bad Corker, Bad! | ||
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NewSunshine
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Introvert
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On October 09 2017 02:07 farvacola wrote: Trump appreciates your real bravery in the war against petty tweets, I'm sure. Bad Corker, Bad! Does this post have a point? | ||
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oBlade
United States6105 Posts
On October 08 2017 19:32 Leporello wrote: "only one thing will work", he says to the world. But not really saying it. Tweeting it. He wouldn't say those words. "Only one thing will work", work to do what? Was there some national discussion that I missed? As with Iraq (and what was once common-sense) waging a war doesn't prevent the use of WMDs (unless they're imaginary). That tweet seems mostly accurate, Bill Clinton's North Korea deal broke down, 6-party talks broke down, regime developed nuclear weapons in violation of international law, tested them breaking a line the Bush administration drew, which is before you remember this is one of the probably top 5 human rights offenders in history. Is there anyone who could get WMDs that you would be in favor of stopping? Or is that an empty set? On October 08 2017 19:32 Leporello wrote: So I just wanted to tell you guys, in case some of you didn't know: this is straight-up psychotic, for the President, who has not engaged verbally with the public at all about what he actually wants or proposes to do, to then engage the cultural world, on Twitter, making obscure comments and insults, on his own personal accord, about matters of mass-death and destruction. For the President of the United States to be this constantly two-faced and crazy: this is terrorism, and all of humanity is the victim. This is the most offensive, stereotyping, comic-cartoon's caricature of a Russian politician. Orwellian to the extreme. Everyday we're watching the most obvious sexist decry sexism, the most obvious racist deny racism, the most obvious war-monger crying about the "only thing". It's the ONLY THING. He exhausted all other options! It sounds to me like the gist of this is that he didn't repeat something verbatim to a camera that he tweeted, but I think this is reaching to create an issue because the tweet is on the same level as his actual rhetoric that comes verbally from his mouth, "fire and fury like the world has never seen," calm before the storm, and so forth, all the way back to 1999 him saying "better solve the problem now than solve it later." It may also be that as an anti-fan you're more prone to tuning out what he says anyway or not going out of your way to intently follow coverage of him and so wouldn't notice if it were the case that what he's saying on Twitter is par for the course with what he says offline. | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
You're defending the patently childish behavior of the head of our country, I'm suggesting that Corker's electoral position and game of tossing Trump's own medicine right back at him actually has nothing to do with this bit of Kabuki Twitter Theater. | ||
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Introvert
United States4951 Posts
On October 09 2017 02:20 farvacola wrote: You're defending the patently childish behavior of the head of our country, I'm suggesting that Corker's electoral position and game of tossing Trump's own medicine right back at him actually has nothing to do with this bit of Kabuki Twitter Theater. Both of these people are obnoxious. I defended two of the factual claims Trump made. Trump's tweets are stupid but Corker's decision not to run again clearly IS a large factor here. The timing and past events make that pretty obvious. Corker is right and I'm sure he's wanted to say this for a long time, but he hasn't. I'm open to hearing why this isn't the case, however. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 09 2017 01:59 Introvert wrote: Fake bravery from a man who recently decided not to run again. And Trump is right, Corker DID want to be SoS and he does shoulder a lot of blame for the Iran deal going through Congress the way it did. Both of these people are obnoxious. Corker doesn’t look good through this at all. It’s easy to take parting shots when you’re rolling on out of there, like a disgruntled employee that’s already put in his notice. Check mark on both obnoxious. | ||
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Saryph
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Plansix
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LegalLord
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 09 2017 03:26 Saryph wrote: How much does it cost taxpayers for Pence to go to an NFL game with the plan of walking out if anyone kneels? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917091286607433728 hard to estimate, a lot of expenses apply whereever pence goes anyways, hard to filter out the actual difference in such a situation. probably not too much, but I haven't thought carefully enough to get an accurate sense. I'm also disinclined to think pence would actually walk out if there's a kneel, does'nt seem like the strategy he's been going for. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
On October 09 2017 03:46 zlefin wrote: hard to estimate, a lot of expenses apply whereever pence goes anyways, hard to filter out the actual difference in such a situation. probably not too much, but I haven't thought carefully enough to get an accurate sense. I'm also disinclined to think pence would actually walk out if there's a kneel, does'nt seem like the strategy he's been going for. I don't get the last part of your post, do you mean that you think Trump ordered him to, or that he didn't walk out? | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 09 2017 03:48 Saryph wrote: I don't get the last part of your post, do you mean that you think Trump ordered him to, or that he didn't walk out? https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/917098725834743810 https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/917094805276168192 I hadn't heard that he in fact walked out; I only saw the tweet about trump saying pence would walk out. I don't see all in-thread tweets, since I had to disable some stuff or else TL just crashes. I'm surprised pence was willing to do that; Pence seems to have had a policy of staying out of the news as much as possible. | ||
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