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Saryph
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Doodsmack
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ChristianS
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Artisreal
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thanks for clarifying. I thought he was was actually there and considered this to be a recent picture. Didn't think much of lightening it up a bit. Wherever the second, daker picture might've come from. I don't know when the game was supposed to start but the tweet with the picture is about 5hrs old according to twitter. If it was pre game he probably wanted to show support for his team and not fake his presence. seems kinda overblown from that perspective and without properly considering the timeline. e: just about the picture stuff. I still stand by my former statment about throwing money out of the window to divide the country further is not what the administration should do | ||
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Gorsameth
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On October 09 2017 05:24 ChristianS wrote: I thought for sure the "real conservatives" would like Corker for standing up for supposed conservative principles and opposing increasing the deficit. But Intro and Danglars seem more sympathetic to Trump's "Corker should get with the team and help us increase the deficit." Weird. Because its not about policy. Its about appearing united, 'winning' and pissing off liberals. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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On October 09 2017 05:24 Artisreal wrote: thanks for clarifying. I thought he was was actually there and considered this to be a recent picture. Didn't think much of lightening it up a bit. Wherever the second, daker picture might've come from. I don't know when the game was supposed to start but the tweet with the picture is about 5hrs old according to twitter. If it was pre game he probably wanted to show support for his team and not fake his presence. seems kinda overblown from that perspective and without properly considering the timeline. e: just about the picture stuff. I still stand by my former statment about throwing money out of the window to divide the country further is not what the administration should do that makes sense. I guess I should have done a little bit more research into it. game started at 10am pacific to basically 3.5 hrs ago.still seems like it's meant to be deceptive but I can see both sides. | ||
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Gorsameth
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On October 09 2017 05:24 Artisreal wrote: thanks for clarifying. I thought he was was actually there and considered this to be a recent picture. Didn't think much of lightening it up a bit. Wherever the second, daker picture might've come from. I don't know when the game was supposed to start but the tweet with the picture is about 5hrs old according to twitter. If it was pre game he probably wanted to show support for his team and not fake his presence. seems kinda overblown from that perspective and without properly considering the timeline. e: just about the picture stuff. I still stand by my former statment about throwing money out of the window to divide the country further is not what the administration should do The new tweet was half an hour, or an hour and a half before the game started. He was actually at the game and walked out after the anthem in 'protest'. If he was there in his teams jersey ready for a game he could have taken a new picture. He was however in his suit because he knew he wouldn't be staying, hence the need to use an old "I'm here to support my team" picture. | ||
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ChristianS
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On October 09 2017 05:26 Gorsameth wrote: Because its not about policy. Its about appearing united, 'winning' and pissing off liberals. That's more plausible to me for Danglars than Intro, but I guess I don't really know where Intro's coming from. I always got the impression he didn't go in for the "do stuff just to piss off liberals" or "winning is more important than being conservative" stuff. | ||
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mahrgell
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On October 09 2017 05:15 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: It's not relevant that the Vice President did a publicity stunt and pretended that a picture from 2014 was from today? Clearly they faked even being prepared to watch the game and were planning to walk out from the beginning. Also if you're doing a publicity stunt best not to make it obviously a publicity stunt. a) Is this a translation of your highly meaningful comment you added to the tweet, when you posted it? Ever read the mod note? b) Even ignoring the mod note, you don't think with the way tweets are embedded, it would have been useful to add a comment. Especially when you want to make the leaps you are making here in your thought. c) Yes, I consider his whole visit a stunt and staged and this tweet to be a part of that strategy. But no, I don't consider the usage of that old picture to be any issue and also not a proof of said strategy. He didn't say "Here is a picture of me sitting in the stadium right now". He says he wants to cheer for his team that day, and adds a picture showing his "fan'ness". HUGE DRAMA. Seriously. I don't see the issue. When I would make such a statement, I would also probably add a picture showing me in full fan clothing. You clearly had your conclusion first and then found an interpretation, how this fits the conclusion. But this isn't any better than all those bullshit youtube videos proofing how xy has been staged. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On October 09 2017 05:28 Gorsameth wrote: The new tweet was half an hour, or an hour and a half before the game started. He was actually at the game and walked out after the anthem in 'protest'. If he was there in his teams jersey ready for a game he could have taken a new picture. He was however in his suit because he knew he wouldn't be staying, hence the need to use an old "I'm here to support my team" picture. He was there in his suit, this proves he wasn't intending to stay. Seriously? Or is my sarcasm detector broken? | ||
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Artisreal
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On October 09 2017 05:28 Gorsameth wrote: The new tweet was half an hour, or an hour and a half before the game started. He was actually at the game and walked out after the anthem in 'protest'. If he was there in his teams jersey ready for a game he could have taken a new picture. He was however in his suit because he knew he wouldn't be staying, hence the need to use an old "I'm here to support my team" picture. Agreed. Though there's nothing outrageous to be found in posting an old picture to show support, @mahrgrell read his post on this page | ||
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Introvert
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On October 09 2017 05:29 ChristianS wrote: That's more plausible to me for Danglars than Intro, but I guess I don't really know where Intro's coming from. I always got the impression he didn't go in for the "do stuff just to piss off liberals" or "winning is more important than being conservative" stuff. Or perhaps the lefties in this thread are too quick to throw plaudits towards those Republicans who attack Trump without asking why or looking at the circumstances. I already said it but I'll say it again: 1. Trump is right, and Corker is right. 2. Trump is childish but Corker's spine appeared at an interesting time. | ||
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ChristianS
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On October 09 2017 05:40 Introvert wrote: Or perhaps the lefties in this thread are too quick to throw plaudits towards those Republicans who attack Trump without asking why or looking at the circumstances. I already said it but I'll say it again: 1. Trump is right, and Corker is right. 2. Trump is childish but Corker's spine appeared at an interesting time. Fair enough, I can understand that position. | ||
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NewSunshine
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Danglars
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On October 09 2017 03:55 LegalLord wrote: This "Resist 24/7" crap is getting quite annoying. Lends credence to the cultural aspects of the conservative criticisms at the very least. The scummiest of scum in Washington are expected to be supported uncritically because nothing is more important than stopping Trump. Tell me about it. But I hear this is part of a grand plan, so I'm just waiting for the genius third act to play out. On October 09 2017 05:40 Introvert wrote: Or perhaps the lefties in this thread are too quick to throw plaudits towards those Republicans who attack Trump without asking why or looking at the circumstances. I already said it but I'll say it again: 1. Trump is right, and Corker is right. 2. Trump is childish but Corker's spine appeared at an interesting time. Ask any conservative what Corker is famous for, and you'll hear his only standout act is surrendering the treaty power of the Senate to get Obama his Iran deal. We have a phrase for times when you show principle when nothing's on the line. It's called fair-weather friend. | ||
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KwarK
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The deal was good, good for America, good for the world, good policy generally. | ||
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