EPTi'm not sure what this means tbh
US Politics Mega-thread - Page 8296
| Forum Index > Closed |
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please. In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up! NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action. | ||
|
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
i'm not sure what this means tbh | ||
|
zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On August 04 2017 05:03 ticklishmusic wrote: https://twitter.com/kasie/status/893192475837378560 i'm not sure what this means tbh it means very little of note. setting up a grand jury is very routine for any major (involving a felony) investigation. | ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
| ||
|
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
| ||
KwarK
United States44286 Posts
| ||
|
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
| ||
|
Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On August 04 2017 05:03 ticklishmusic wrote: https://twitter.com/kasie/status/893192475837378560 i'm not sure what this means tbh There was already a Grand Jury, used against Michael Flynn, that Mueller was then using, located in VA. Opening one directly in DC means he needs more testimony and subpoenas, and this will give him quicker, more immediate access. He is also continually hiring more people. Many of the people he's hired are people who've directly worked in cases surrounding Trump in the past. For example, the attorney responsible for making Felix Sater's plea-deal to the FBI is working with Mueller. The last guy he just hired is a prosecutor from the DoJ who worked on foreign-bribery cases. FCI = Counter-intel. So this guy is saying this proves the investigation is no longer just about Russia, but is seeking criminal indictments in the U.S. Also, Senate introduced a bill today immunizing Mueller from being fired by Trump without first going through court-oversight. Trump is fucked. As he should be. I just, once again, find it pathetic that we're jumping through all these hoops before we impeach him. We strip him of his Presidential powers, investigate him for treason. He can't negotiate, he has no control of the military. He's just an embarrassment at this point, to everybody. Just impeach him first, would be the practical thing to do, if the House had a spine. | ||
|
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Federal investigators exploring whether Donald Trump's campaign colluded with Russian spies have seized on Trump and his associates' financial ties to Russia as one of the most fertile avenues for moving their probe forward, according to people familiar with the investigation. The web of financial ties could offer a more concrete path toward potential prosecution than the broader and murkier questions of collusion in the 2016 campaign, these sources said. One year after the FBI opened an investigation, the probe is now managed by special counsel Robert Mueller. Sources described an investigation that has widened to focus on possible financial crimes, some unconnected to the 2016 elections, alongside the ongoing scrutiny of possible illegal coordination with Russian spy agencies and alleged attempts by President Donald Trump and others to obstruct the FBI investigation. Even investigative leads that have nothing to do with Russia but involve Trump associates are being referred to the special counsel to encourage subjects of the investigation to cooperate, according to two law enforcement sources. www.cnn.com | ||
|
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
| ||
|
Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Bit of an addendum to the grand jury news | ||
|
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
| ||
|
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
| ||
|
m4ini
4215 Posts
Also, Senate introduced a bill today immunizing Mueller from being fired by Trump without first going through court-oversight. Is that already decided or are they gonna vote for it soon? | ||
|
IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On August 04 2017 06:12 ticklishmusic wrote: so does this mean that trump will blow up the sept of baelor soon? Only once bannon shows him the secret stash of wild fire | ||
|
raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
| ||
|
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
| ||
|
Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On August 04 2017 06:18 m4ini wrote: Is that already decided or are they gonna vote for it soon? Not voted on yet. But it was introduced with Lindsey Graham and several (R) co-sponsors, so I'm not worried about it. One of the measures, introduced by Senate Judiciary Committee members Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) and Chris Coons (D-Del.), would let Mueller challenge his firing by a panel of three federal judges — but only after he’s been terminated. By contrast, a different proposal from Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.) would force the top Justice Department officials who were tasked with firing Mueller to go before the judicial panel before he’s even terminated to explain their reasons for the move. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/03/robert-mueller-senate-bills-protection-241296 | ||
|
Biff The Understudy
France8184 Posts
On August 04 2017 06:12 ticklishmusic wrote: so does this mean that trump will blow up the sept of baelor soon? Too stupid for that. He might get Ned Stark beheaded though. | ||
|
m4ini
4215 Posts
This particular sanctions I think were a mistake by the US, because it could bring Russia and the EU closer. Doubtful. Not voted on yet. But it was introduced with Lindsey Graham and several (R) co-sponsors, so I'm not worried about it. Cheers, good to hear. Mainly because i know it'll drive Trump mad to see senate strip powers of any kind off of him. :D | ||
|
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 04 2017 06:22 raga4ka wrote: US's relations with the EU have taken a hit after Trump's policies of isolationism and the sanctions on Russia without consulting the EU first, potentially damaging EU's energy security. This particular sanctions I think were a mistake by the US, because it could bring Russia and the EU closer. Russia doesn't really need to improve the relations with the US right now that much even if they did exert effort to place Trump in the office. With Trump not being anti-russian and breeding in their neck at every move is enough. If Russia improves it's relations with EU, only the US will lose out. Sending weapons to Ukraine as well, could potentially worsen US EU relations if the conflict gets out of hand? What would you guys think? Russia is content with having satellite states around it's borders which wouldn't join NATO in the near future, I doubt they would escalate the conflict in Ukraine, having Crimea and supporting Donbas in to a deadlock, they would be happy to implement the Minsk agreement of piece right now. Appeasing aggressive dictators has a pretty spotty track record in general. | ||
| ||
