US Politics Mega-thread - Page 7611

On May 23 2017 11:35 biology]major wrote:
I hope sooner or later people will be able to overcome the pc labels and just use the terms radical islamism. It is time to just be honest and truthful rather than using vague terminology to avoid harming a minority group's feelings. I see this trend changing now, ever since trump it is actually being used more commonly. Just saw fareed zakharia say radical islamism/jihadism lol

On May 23 2017 11:38 xDaunt wrote:

Let's see whether blowing up a bunch of little girls makes a difference to our PC brethren.

It's not nearly as much of a problem to me personally as radical right wing christian extremists are. Both politically and physically I'm under threat by them, while Muslim terrorism seems limited to europe currently. It's nothing to do with PC to not care about what is a fundamentally European issue.

On May 23 2017 11:47 m4ini wrote:


Until the next two towers go down.

What kind of ridiculous statement is that? Do you think they're "done" with the US?

On May 23 2017 11:45 Nevuk wrote:

It's not nearly as much of a problem to me personally as radical right wing christian extremists are. Both politically and physically I'm under threat by them, while Muslim terrorism seems limited to europe currently. It's nothing to do with PC to not care about what is a fundamentally European issue.

R/The_Donald or the Redpill people are far more likely to be the source of the next terrorist attack on US soil, and definitely the next one to kill a massive number of people in the US. I've definitely heard of comment threads on the_donald about how to use violence to ensure that Trump remains in power indefinitely.

So I ask, why hasn't Mike Pence or Donald Trump come out and condemned these terrorist breeding grounds? Is he in favor of biblical rules against witches that would allow him to exsanguinate and burn political opponents alive? Why haven't they condemned far right conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones or Tuck Buckford?

On May 23 2017 11:49 xDaunt wrote:

I was really hoping that he'd expound on the dangers that Christianity poses to the Western world.

On May 23 2017 11:47 m4ini wrote:


Until the next two towers go down.

What kind of ridiculous statement is that? Do you think they're "done" with the US?

On May 23 2017 11:49 xDaunt wrote:

I was really hoping that he'd expound on the dangers that Christianity poses to the Western world.

On May 23 2017 11:52 RealityIsKing wrote:


The SJWs actually do the terrorism though, through violent protest of destroying other people's properties.

The Red Pill people are 100% less violent in their approach, just watch the difference between the feminist and the MRAs in The Red Pill movie.

It is pretty apparent.

On May 23 2017 11:54 biology]major wrote:


alex jones apparently is a threat that needs to be called out. Whoa, constant news cycles every few months of mass murder must be child's play to him. You can see the effects of ideology so clearly, when common sense starts to escape someone. Ask people to call radical islam by it's name and not vague bullshit like 'terrorism', response is "but what about christianity!!" If christians in the name of jesus are plotting and killing with coordination and end up on multiple news cycles, let me know, and we can call it out as well.

On May 23 2017 11:55 Nevuk wrote:

They're promoting slavery in the form of for profit prisons.

On May 23 2017 11:55 hunts wrote:


Except that most actual terrorist attacks by the definition of terrorism on us soil are done by far right people.

Ask people to call radical islam by it's name and not vague bullshit like 'terrorism', response is "but what about christianity!!" If christians in the name of jesus are plotting and killing with coordination and end up on multiple news cycles, let me know, and we can call it out as well.

On May 23 2017 11:57 m4ini wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_terrorism

Since you seem to know what many people disagree on, care to explain what the definition of terrorism is?

edit: nevermind, lets not go into semantics. The definition for terrorism doesn't exist. There's one that suits your argument, and one that doesn't. You just chose to take the one that suits you and paint it at the definition.

On May 23 2017 12:05 xDaunt wrote:

The bigger problem is the myopia of their argument. Yes, you can technically argue that radical Islam is not the biggest threat to America today, but you only get there by completely ignoring future expectations and the severity of the threat posed. I suspect that things will get a little more real over here as the situation in Europe continues to degenerate over the next generation or two.

On May 23 2017 11:55 hunts wrote:


Except that most actual terrorist attacks by the definition of terrorism on us soil are done by far right people.

Donald Trump will embrace hardline right-wing economics on Tuesday with a budget that proposes swingeing cuts to social safety net programmes while allocating $1.6bn to a border wall.

Millions of people would lose access to Medicaid, the government insurance programme for the poorest and many disabled Americans. Food stamps for people on low incomes would be cut over the next 10 years under the White House plan and the families of undocumented workers would be frozen out of key tax breaks.

“We are no longer going to measure compassion by the number of programmes or the number of people on those programmes,” budget director Mick Mulvaney told reporters. “We’re going to measure compassion and success by the number of people we help get off of those programmes to get back in charge of their own lives. We’re not going to measure our success by how much money we spend but by how many people we actually help.”

The Trump blueprint is unlikely to become law because it will face opposition from both moderate Republicans and Democrats worried about its social impact and from fiscal conservatives who fear it will increase the deficit.

Chuck Schumer, Democratic minority leader in the Senate, condemned the proposed cuts to Medicaid. “This would pull the rug out from so many Americans who need help: those suffering from opioid and heroin addiction, people in nursing homes and their families who care for them, the elderly, the disabled, and children,” he said on the Senate floor.
Medicaid helps not only the poor but increasingly the middle class, as well as 1.75m veterans, Schumer added. “Here’s what candidate Trump said when he campaigned: ‘I’m not going to cut social security like every other Republican and I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.’ He promised he would help take care of those suffering from opioid addiction. If it cuts Medicaid, he’s breaking that promise right in half.”

Economic experts were also quick to dismiss Mulvaney’s claims that Trump’s tax plans and budget would boost economic growth to 3%, balancing the federal budget within a decade.

Although Trump is an unconventional president, the budget shares much with the conservative orthodoxy of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. It is entitled “A New Foundation for American Greatness” and Mulvaney said if he had a subtitle it would be, “The taxpayer first budget”.

Cuts to Medicaid over the next decade exceed even the more than the $800bn reductions contained in a health bill passed by the House of Representatives earlier this month.

The president also aims to slash welfare by $274bn over a decade, including $193bn on food stamps, driving millions of people off the programme. This would be several times bigger than cuts attempted by House Republicans in the past. The number of people claiming food stamps spiked to 47m people at the height of the 2007-08 recession and had not come down as expected, still totalling 44m people, Mulvaney said, despite near full employment in the US.

Some $72bn over 10 years would come from social security’s disability insurance programme, including $50bn in savings which would be achieved by helping recipients get off the programme and find a job.

Mulvaney continued: “If you’re on food stamps and you’re able bodied, we need you to go to work. If you’re on disability insurance and you’re not supposed to be, if you’re not truly disabled, we need you to go back to work.”

He added: “There’s a dignity to work and there’s a necessity to work to help the country and succeed and we need everybody to pull in the same direction.”

The Child Tax Credit and the Earned Income Credit would be limited to those who are authorised to work in the US. They would be required to show proof of a social security number – a move that would have a negative impact on children who are US citizens but whose parents are undocumented.

“I could ask you for your money I think, in good faith and good conscience, and say, ‘Look, I need to take some of your money and give it to this family, who deserves the Child Tax Credit, but I can’t do it to give the Earned Income Tax Credit, which is designed to help folks who work, to give it somebody who’s in the country and working illegally. It’s just not fair. It’s not right when you look at it through the perspective of the people paying the taxes.”

Trump would also reduce federal employee pensions and farm subsidies while keeping campaign pledges to leave core Medicare and social security benefits for the elderly untouched.