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JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
May 23 2017 02:01 GMT
#152181
I am going to love watching Trump sue his former staff. As soon as Trump sues his ex staffers they get the right to discovery. It will be glorious!

Also, everyone gets that the really damaging leaks are coming from within the Whitehouse, right? This isn't FBI and CIA agents leaking stuff. All these Trump said "something abominable" articles are coming from someone close enough to Trump to hear the "something abominable". That means they work in the Whitehouse under Trump, at most two rungs down the chain of command. The leakers are likely staffers for Priebus and Bannon.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 23 2017 02:01 GMT
#152182
On May 23 2017 10:57 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 10:55 Plansix wrote:
I love the Xdaunt is saying Trump needs crush them when he has literally zero tools to do this. He can't gag them and threats will do nothing. The man has literally zero powers to control what his staff says out of the White House.

But I'm sure the FBI will play ball and keep tabs on these three staffers.

On May 23 2017 10:50 Leporello wrote:
On May 23 2017 10:34 xDaunt wrote:
On May 23 2017 10:21 Plansix wrote:


Has anyone told Trump that he does not need to fire these people personally? He can just have his chief of staff do it like a normal president.

He needs to properly make examples of them.


Thanks, Nixon. Great advice.


Xdaunt would have been a huge fan of Nixon.

See my post above. I bet Trump does have the tools to do it.

I find your wild speculation of Trumps forethought and his ability to enforce this mythical contract to be less then convincing. The contract is with whom? The Federal government? Is he going to use a White House counsel to enforce this contract? He can't use private counsel.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
May 23 2017 02:01 GMT
#152183
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.
Big water
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 23 2017 02:03 GMT
#152184
On May 23 2017 10:57 hunts wrote:
Impose civil liability? If they open a go fund me page saying trumps suing them for leaking about bis dumpster fire administration they will have enough money to out lawyer him within days lol.

I am still questioning how Trump brings these civil cases. The executive branch isn't going to file three civil actions against white house staffers. And if they did, the ACLU would be like "LETS DO THIS!"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 23 2017 02:06 GMT
#152185
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 23 2017 02:07 GMT
#152186
On May 23 2017 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?

To a great many people leaking in the Trump administration is a demonstration of a person's trustworthiness.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 23 2017 02:08 GMT
#152187
On May 23 2017 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?

Is this a trick question? You voted for Trump, who is demonstrably untrustworthy and hired Flynn, who is demonstrably untrustworthy.

So, you?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 02:08:51
May 23 2017 02:08 GMT
#152188
On May 23 2017 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?


I mean, there's half the country who would view these leakers as brave patriots, while the other half views them as untrustworthy
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 23 2017 02:10 GMT
#152189
Plus I wouldn't be surprised if at least 1 of those people was falsely accused by someone with something to gain if they got rid of them
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
May 23 2017 02:12 GMT
#152190
On May 23 2017 11:10 Nevuk wrote:
Plus I wouldn't be surprised if at least 1 of those people was falsely accused by someone with something to gain if they got rid of them


If you want to go from Bannon toadie up to second place below chief of staff, just out a leaker under Priebus.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 23 2017 02:12 GMT
#152191
On May 23 2017 11:08 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?


I mean, there's half the country who would view these leakers as brave patriots, while the other half views them as untrustworthy

Yes, half the country views the leakers as brave patriots, but who is really going to go out on a limb to give the leakers something for their bravery? The leakers will get their 15 minutes of fame for being useful idiots to the anti-Trump cause, and then they will be discarded like so many others who have betrayed conservative causes have been. Just watch.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
May 23 2017 02:14 GMT
#152192
On May 23 2017 11:12 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 11:08 biology]major wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?


I mean, there's half the country who would view these leakers as brave patriots, while the other half views them as untrustworthy

Yes, half the country views the leakers as brave patriots, but who is really going to go out on a limb to give the leakers something for their bravery? The leakers will get their 15 minutes of fame for being useful idiots to the anti-Trump cause, and then they will be discarded like so many others who have betrayed conservative causes have been. Just watch.


Your anger is so misplaced.
Big water
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 23 2017 02:18 GMT
#152193
I love the real problem is leaking info from a dysfunctional white house that is clearly trying to obstruct justice in a cover up for god knows what. That is the thing people should be punished for, leaking that out before the conservative agenda could be accomplished.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 02:21:15
May 23 2017 02:20 GMT
#152194
On May 23 2017 11:12 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 11:08 biology]major wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?


I mean, there's half the country who would view these leakers as brave patriots, while the other half views them as untrustworthy

Yes, half the country views the leakers as brave patriots, but who is really going to go out on a limb to give the leakers something for their bravery? The leakers will get their 15 minutes of fame for being useful idiots to the anti-Trump cause, and then they will be discarded like so many others who have betrayed conservative causes have been. Just watch.


Well it's either that or people will finally discard the biggest weapon against conservative causes which is probably the formerly lifelong Democrat incompetent executive who says whatever pleases whoever talked to him last.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 23 2017 02:25 GMT
#152195
On May 23 2017 11:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 11:12 xDaunt wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:08 biology]major wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?


I mean, there's half the country who would view these leakers as brave patriots, while the other half views them as untrustworthy

Yes, half the country views the leakers as brave patriots, but who is really going to go out on a limb to give the leakers something for their bravery? The leakers will get their 15 minutes of fame for being useful idiots to the anti-Trump cause, and then they will be discarded like so many others who have betrayed conservative causes have been. Just watch.


Well it's either that or people will finally discard the biggest weapon against conservative causes which is probably the formerly lifelong Democrat incompetent executive who says whatever pleases whoever talked to him last.

I'm not imparting any judgment. I'm merely disabusing some of the idealists around here of the notions that 1) Trump isn't the one with the leverage and 2) things are going to turn out well for the leakers. Trump's biggest imperative -- more than any other item -- is purging his administration of leakers and anyone else who is actively undermining him. He will never accomplish anything until he gets his house in order.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 23 2017 02:30 GMT
#152196
On May 23 2017 11:25 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 11:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:12 xDaunt wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:08 biology]major wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
On May 23 2017 11:01 Leporello wrote:
Right.

There is no crime. At best, Trump martyrs these people into cushy jobs, where they'll be set for life, and in doing so, makes himself look even more like Nixon's evil Russian twin.

Who wants to hire people who have been demonstrably untrustworthy?


I mean, there's half the country who would view these leakers as brave patriots, while the other half views them as untrustworthy

Yes, half the country views the leakers as brave patriots, but who is really going to go out on a limb to give the leakers something for their bravery? The leakers will get their 15 minutes of fame for being useful idiots to the anti-Trump cause, and then they will be discarded like so many others who have betrayed conservative causes have been. Just watch.


Well it's either that or people will finally discard the biggest weapon against conservative causes which is probably the formerly lifelong Democrat incompetent executive who says whatever pleases whoever talked to him last.

I'm not imparting any judgment. I'm merely disabusing some of the idealists around here of the notions that 1) Trump isn't the one with the leverage and 2) things are going to turn out well for the leakers. Trump's biggest imperative -- more than any other item -- is purging his administration of leakers and anyone else who is actively undermining him. He will never accomplish anything until he gets his house in order.

People are actively undermining him because he's a shit boss to work for who is too lazy to read and too ignorant to listen to advice.
Look at how he threw McMaster under the bus. Half of the trouble comes from his own dumb tweets contradicting statements of the white house. He literally doesn't give a shit about his staff.

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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
May 23 2017 02:33 GMT
#152197
So you think saying trump has no leverage is a silly notion, yet you have zero evidence and zero ideas as to what leverage he might have, but you just know in your heart of hearts that he has some leverage, is this true?
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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 02:38:39
May 23 2017 02:35 GMT
#152198
I hope sooner or later people will be able to overcome the pc labels and just use the terms radical islamism. It is time to just be honest and truthful rather than using vague terminology to avoid harming a minority group's feelings. I see this trend changing now, ever since trump it is actually being used more commonly. Just saw fareed zakaria say radical islamism/jihadism lol
Question.?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 23 2017 02:37 GMT
#152199
Well he didn't use it the other day in Saudi Arabia... so.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
May 23 2017 02:37 GMT
#152200
that was a mistake
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