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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please. In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up! NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22103 Posts
On May 12 2017 21:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: this dude is off the walls Threatening now? Is the parallel to Nixon's tapes completely lost on him or is he really playing 8d chess by bringing them up on purpose (answer: no, he is that stupid). | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On May 12 2017 21:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: this dude is off the walls https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473 Threatening now? LOL what if comey had a wire on him during the dinner. This guy is a complete disgrace | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
Who are these two(shooter/victim)? | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On May 12 2017 21:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: this dude is off the walls https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473 Threatening now? There really needs to be consequences for this whole episode. We're beyond the point where there are even flimsy excuses for trump here. | ||
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Trainrunnef
United States601 Posts
On May 12 2017 22:13 Garbels wrote: Just noticed that on Trumps twitter banner/top is a picture of a bunch of white guys with one guy forming a finger pistol instead of a thumbs up(right side). Who are these two(shooter/victim)? Where is that hand even coming from??? This is likely the work of the illuminati... | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Trainrunnef
United States601 Posts
On May 12 2017 22:22 Doodsmack wrote: There really needs to be consequences for this whole episode. We're beyond the point where there are even flimsy excuses for trump here. The only consequences for this kind of action is from the voters and many of those who voted for him are quite satisfied with his performance to date. To them this is all just a bunch of overblown media hype around every single misstatement. to their credit alot of it is, but its had the effect that now when press secretaries hide in bushes and everyone has a different story, they just dont care anymore. They are tired of hearing about the Russia investigation, and tired of hearing reporting on every single thing Trump does wrong (of which there are many). | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On May 12 2017 22:36 Trainrunnef wrote: The only consequences for this kind of action is from the voters and many of those who voted for him are quite satisfied with his performance to date. To them this is all just a bunch of overblown media hype around every single misstatement. to their credit alot of it is, but its had the effect that now when press secretaries hide in bushes and everyone has a different story, they just dont care anymore. They are tired of hearing about the Russia investigation, and tired of hearing reporting on every single thing Trump does wrong (of which there are many). I think you're being a little pessimistic. You're essentially saying that there will be an enduring public mandate for Trump to desecrate the country and civilization itself. Far from all Trump supporters are hardcore and incapable of being swayed, many of them had legitimate grievances with Clinton or were/are facing problems in their life they really thought he was going to help them with. This is a war of attrition but I really think that Trump is losing. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On May 12 2017 22:36 Trainrunnef wrote: The only consequences for this kind of action is from the voters and many of those who voted for him are quite satisfied with his performance to date. To them this is all just a bunch of overblown media hype around every single misstatement. to their credit alot of it is, but its had the effect that now when press secretaries hide in bushes and everyone has a different story, they just dont care anymore. They are tired of hearing about the Russia investigation, and tired of hearing reporting on every single thing Trump does wrong (of which there are many). He screwed the pooch on this one. He had everything to gain from walking away and going on the next topic, but now he has to tweet storm some stupid parting shots at Comey to make the situation first and invite a whole new round of condemnations. Fresh provocations are just going to work to disunite the building unity behind Republicans to resist the Democrat bluster. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18220 Posts
On May 12 2017 22:02 Plansix wrote: I differences between publicly owned websites/services like reddit and private sites like TL. TL actively controls this site, moderates it and decides what content they will cover and allow. Reddit is larger, publically owned and crowd sources that moderation with little oversight. As sites like reddit and Facebook grow in reach and scope, I think it’s time to differentiate between them and smaller sites. The mom and pop shops of the internet should be viewed differently from the Wal-Mart’s of the internet. And I think we, as private citizens, should have a greater ability to hold them accountable for what is on their site if they are negligent in what they allow up there. Both Reddit and Facebook are privately owned. Sure, Facebook is a publicly traded company, and Reddit's parent company is too. But that just means it's the shareholders who decide how the sites get moderated (or rather, it's the shareholders who decide on the board of directors, who actually run the company), as opposed to Nazgul (or aXiomatic), and from him, the mods. The only real remaining difference between TL and those two is one of scale (my estimate would be that the TL community forum is worth a few tens of thousands of dollars, whereas Reddit and Facebook are billion-dollar brands). That difference is an important one, but how exactly do you differentiate between the Reddits and the TeamLiquids? Number of users doesn't seem to be sufficient: plenty of despiccable subreddits have far worse content, and far fewer users than TL. And there are a LOT worse corners of the internet than Reddit or even 4chan. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9026 Posts
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Trainrunnef
United States601 Posts
On May 12 2017 23:09 prplhz wrote: I think you're being a little pessimistic. You're essentially saying that there will be an enduring public mandate for Trump to desecrate the country and civilization itself. Far from all Trump supporters are hardcore and incapable of being swayed, many of them had legitimate grievances with Clinton or were/are facing problems in their life they really thought he was going to help them with. This is a war of attrition but I really think that Trump is losing. What I think you might be missing is that this is mostly the case for those that are in the political know and watch the news and stay up to date on current events. There are millions of people who just don't care about the details, or his tweet storms, and see this as a president "draining the swamp". its not pessimism, I've heard dozens of interviews on NPR during their indivisible series covering the first 100 days of Trump, and so many of his supporters just have a completely different worldview of what you find here on TL. To coin a phrase i heard on the radio earlier today "This is a DC story, this is not a Kansas story." That's why i think the ultimate fallout from the AHCA will be much more damaging to trump and the GOP than any of these tweets, firings, and misinformation ever could be. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
On May 12 2017 23:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Is there a legitimate cause for impeachment proceedings to begin yet? Or are we waiting for something bigger than what has surfaced thus far? As I understand, in terms of what is public at this point, there is not enough. However, I won't be surprised if Trump's response to the inquiry ends up being what does him in. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On May 12 2017 09:28 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Donald, if you want the investigation to go away, why do you bring it up on national television by saying the stupidest possible thing you could about it? there's the comical theory: Donald is an attention demon, he literally feeds on and gains power from being in the news, therefore he does whatever it takes to stay in the news. all publicity is good publicity when you literally feed on it. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On May 12 2017 23:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Is there a legitimate cause for impeachment proceedings to begin yet? Or are we waiting for something bigger than what has surfaced thus far? The fact that Trump has openly admitted his reasons for the firing had to do with Comey's testimony regarding the Russia investigation is significant cause for concern. But ultimately there can only be impeachment if Republicans' constituents support it. At present they seem intent on following Trump wherever he may lead them. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On May 12 2017 23:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Is there a legitimate cause for impeachment proceedings to begin yet? Or are we waiting for something bigger than what has surfaced thus far? impeachment, no; not from waht I've seen at least. I don't see any specific felony that could be applied. but invoking amendment 25, kinda yes. the real question thoug his how low his poll numbers have to get; he's not yet toxic enough to be worth the severe political price the republicans would pay for ditching him. | ||
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