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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-12 01:09:54
May 12 2017 01:09 GMT
#150201
On May 12 2017 09:56 Doodsmack wrote:
I'm gonna predict that when Comey gives testimony next week he's going to produce monster headlines by contradicting Trump's claim that he told Trump that Trump is not under investigation.


Not gonna lie, I don't think Trump was lying about this. I think Comey might have fucked up He even mentioned that Comey told him 3 times, specifically, detailed the 3 occassions. 1 during dinner, 2 by phone. He even admitted that he straight up asked Comey "would you tell me if I was under investigation". Either that is an elaborate self compromising lie, or he told the truth.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 12 2017 01:09 GMT
#150202
These people have no clue what they're doing.

The White House is facing criticism for a possible security breach after it allowed a Russian news service photographer into the Oval Office to snap photos of President Donald Trump and a pair of top Russian officials.

While the administration downplayed the threat, a senior administration official acknowledged that the White House had been misled about the role of the Russian photographer, who was actually employed by a state-run news agency.

...

The chummy photos left some observers agog, particularly coming a day after the president fired FBI Director James Comey, who had been running the investigation into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russian officials.

The American media, however, never caught a glimpse of either Russian inside the White House. When the press pool was allowed into the Oval Office at the meeting's conclusion, both Lavrov and Kislyak were gone and, in a surprise, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was with Trump instead.

...

Hours after his meeting with Trump, Lavrov insisted that no evidence exists that Russian attempted to influence last year's election or hack the Democratic Party's email system. He also said the subject never came up during his Oval Office meeting.


www.yahoo.com
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 12 2017 01:14 GMT
#150203
On May 12 2017 10:09 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 09:56 Doodsmack wrote:
I'm gonna predict that when Comey gives testimony next week he's going to produce monster headlines by contradicting Trump's claim that he told Trump that Trump is not under investigation.


Not gonna lie, I don't think Trump was lying about this. I think Comey might have fucked up He even mentioned that Comey told him 3 times, specifically, detailed the 3 occassions. 1 during dinner, 2 by phone. He even admitted that he straight up asked Comey "would you tell me if I was under investigation". Either that is an elaborate self compromising lie, or he told the truth.


Well, FBI sources close to Comey have contradicted Trump. Trump really does create his own reality as he goes. Consider that after the Comey firing he had all his people lying about the reason for it. His interview with NBC from today contradicted his letter to Comey as to the reason for the firing. Even if this is all relatively innocent and Trump is merely lying to protect his ego regarding media coverage of his presidency, he is in fact going about it in the dumbest way possible.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 12 2017 01:19 GMT
#150204
On May 12 2017 10:09 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 09:56 Doodsmack wrote:
I'm gonna predict that when Comey gives testimony next week he's going to produce monster headlines by contradicting Trump's claim that he told Trump that Trump is not under investigation.


Not gonna lie, I don't think Trump was lying about this. I think Comey might have fucked up He even mentioned that Comey told him 3 times, specifically, detailed the 3 occassions. 1 during dinner, 2 by phone. He even admitted that he straight up asked Comey "would you tell me if I was under investigation". Either that is an elaborate self compromising lie, or he told the truth.


The thing is that they're not mutually incompatible, that Trump is telling the truth (or giving his account of what he believes happened) and that Comey never said anything like that. Trump is living in an alternate reality and he might truly believe that Comey said this even if Comey just tactfully declined to say anything. Remember when Trump claimed that Elijah Cummings had called him the greatest president ever? I think sort of the same thing is happening here. Comey is just not this stupid.

Also, to split hairs, Trump isn't under investigation, it's his campaign that's under investigation.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-12 01:36:36
May 12 2017 01:29 GMT
#150205
Scaring to think whether they're saying this to any viewers who are writing in threatening civil war.



{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 12 2017 01:31 GMT
#150206
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 12 2017 01:56 GMT
#150207
On May 12 2017 10:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/862808993500102656

Could somebody give me a summary? I can't get it to play.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-12 02:03:04
May 12 2017 01:57 GMT
#150208
The important thing is that we have a working man's president who thinks insurance is 15 bucks a month.

(full interview with the Economist here)

What a delusional nutcase. No wonder he thought he could give everyone health insurance with his super mega great secret plan.

Edit: The most generous interpretation is that he believes it *could be* 15 bucks a month instead of believing it actually is. For reference, if the entire U.S. population paid 15 bucks a month, we would have 58 billion dollars of the 3.2 TRILLION dollars of healthcare spending.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-12 01:59:17
May 12 2017 01:57 GMT
#150209
If Trump was in a TV show people would never watch it because it's too unrealistic. Republicans would talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad.

I want studies on how many people in Netherlands and France didn't vote far right because of how bad they thought Trump looks.
No will to live, no wish to die
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 12 2017 01:58 GMT
#150210
Very hard to try and write what he says because he went off in a tangent of four different items in 31 seconds lol
Life?
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 12 2017 02:04 GMT
#150211
On May 12 2017 10:57 Nebuchad wrote:
If Trump was in a TV show people would never watch it because it's too unrealistic. Republicans would talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad.

Trump has been in TV shows. That's the sad thing.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 12 2017 02:05 GMT
#150212
I don't doubt it if Trump has a cult following that turns into extremist if necessary.
Life?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-12 02:09:15
May 12 2017 02:08 GMT
#150213
On May 12 2017 11:04 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 10:57 Nebuchad wrote:
If Trump was in a TV show people would never watch it because it's too unrealistic. Republicans would talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad.

Trump has been in TV shows. That's the sad thing.


If a TV show portrayed a republican president just half as obviously ridiculous as Trump that would be deemed liberal propaganda designed to make republicans look bad and criticized weekly for it.
No will to live, no wish to die
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 12 2017 03:28 GMT
#150214
On May 12 2017 10:57 Nebuchad wrote:
If Trump was in a TV show people would never watch it because it's too unrealistic. Republicans would talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad.

I want studies on how many people in Netherlands and France didn't vote far right because of how bad they thought Trump looks.

Don't Republicans always talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 12 2017 03:31 GMT
#150215
On May 12 2017 12:28 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 10:57 Nebuchad wrote:
If Trump was in a TV show people would never watch it because it's too unrealistic. Republicans would talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad.

I want studies on how many people in Netherlands and France didn't vote far right because of how bad they thought Trump looks.

Don't Republicans always talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad?

Nixon started that tradition and it's been going strong since.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44295 Posts
May 12 2017 03:34 GMT
#150216
On May 12 2017 12:28 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 10:57 Nebuchad wrote:
If Trump was in a TV show people would never watch it because it's too unrealistic. Republicans would talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad.

I want studies on how many people in Netherlands and France didn't vote far right because of how bad they thought Trump looks.

Don't Republicans always talk about the liberal media's propaganda making them look bad?

Yep. It's the hard part about reporting what they say.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
May 12 2017 04:13 GMT
#150217
Hey, he did a thing SEE.

Okay well he didn't do it, but the guy who he appointed did.

Only thing of any potential interest is V and MA getting "access", whatever that means.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-12 04:33:51
May 12 2017 04:33 GMT
#150218


Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 12 2017 04:36 GMT
#150219
On May 12 2017 13:13 HalcyonRain wrote:
Hey, he did a thing SEE.

Okay well he didn't do it, but the guy who he appointed did.

Only thing of any potential interest is V and MA getting "access", whatever that means.

Not too shabby for starters.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 12 2017 04:45 GMT
#150220
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