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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43976 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 22:19:01
May 11 2017 22:14 GMT
#150181
On May 12 2017 04:15 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 04:12 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 12 2017 03:58 Plansix wrote:
On May 12 2017 03:55 KwarK wrote:
You're blaming the volunteer librarian for plagiarism in a book they didn't write or put in the library.

This librarian is Google, is worth billions and is directly profiting off the photo someone stole. If we are going to go through shitty analogies, pawn shops should be able to profit from stolen goods as long as they create a system that assure they don’t know the goods are stolen.


Is that not how pawn shops work out where you live?

No. Pawn shops are regulated where I live and have to take down the information of anyone who sells them anything. They 100% know that they could forfeit any profits gains from stolen goods, which is why they do that.

You're missing the point. A pawn shop takes ownership of the good and therefore loses if they have to forfeit it. Google in this example wouldn't be a pawn shop, it'd be a brokerage service that hooks people who have things up with people who want things. You'd come to google and say "I'm looking for X" and it'd say "that dude has an X". If that dude had stolen X that wouldn't be the broker's fault.

Google doesn't own anything or do anything that you couldn't do yourself with sufficient time. It just compiles publicly available information.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 22:42:30
May 11 2017 22:41 GMT
#150182
A classified section in a newspaper is probably the closest pre-internet parallel.

Perhaps it's different in the US, but I wouldn't expect you would have gotten anywhere suing a newspaper over a private ad for goods that turned out to be stolen.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 11 2017 22:42 GMT
#150183
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 11 2017 22:42 GMT
#150184
On May 12 2017 02:36 HalcyonRain wrote:
I can't help but think firing Comey on Tuesday was completely on purpose. Like he decided he was going to fire Comey a long time ago and he was just saving it for a time where it would make the media go into a frenzy(cuz that's what gets him off). So he fires him 2 days before he's supposed to appear in the Senate Intelligence Committee's annual World Wide Threat hearing, in which he probably would have talked about Russia. This is also after a rumor about Comey asking for increased funding.

I dunno, I probably read too many books.

Either way the Legislative branch will grind to a halt while they're dealing with Trump's constant "distractions". Well maybe not a halt, but certainly very slow.


what books are/did you reading/read ?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 11 2017 22:46 GMT
#150185
things that are probably bad ideas. deny financial help for disasters in swing states. Entire article cause it's short

HARRISBURG, Pa.- Governor Tom Wolf announced the request for a federal disaster declaration to help offset the financial burden of a record-breaking snowstorm that crippled much of the northeastern part of the state in March was denied.

“This disaster declaration would have provided much-needed financial assistance to hard-hit communities in northeastern Pennsylvania,” said Governor Wolf. “I want to thank county and local emergency managers and responders for all of their hard efforts in responding to this storm and helping us make our case for this disaster declaration request.”

In his request letter sent to the Trump Administration, Governor Wolf cited: costs to local municipalities that significantly exceeded their snow removal budgets; transportation issues such as preemptive road closures including major interstates; record-breaking snowfall in nine counties; and storm conditions that generated significant life-safety issues requiring a variety of critical resource and support needs, such as rescue and evacuation of stranded motorists, wrecker service with recovery staff, generators and transportation of emergency workers.

The governor made the request earlier this month in order to provide federal funding to local, county and state governments, as well as certain eligible non-profits in Bradford, Lackawanna, Luzerne, Susquehanna, Wyoming, Northumberland, Pike, Wayne and Montour counties through the Public Assistance program. The program provides reimbursement of up to 75 percent of the costs incurred on eligible expenses for the eligible 48-hour time period.



http://fox43.com/2017/05/11/president-trump-denies-gov-wolf-request-for-federal-disaster-declaration-for-nepa/
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 22:48:35
May 11 2017 22:48 GMT
#150186
On May 12 2017 07:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/862779120882786305

It might have been a smart move from Spicer to stay in the bushes for a while for this one lol
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 11 2017 23:00 GMT
#150187
On May 12 2017 07:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 07:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/862779120882786305

It might have been a smart move from Spicer to stay in the bushes for a while for this one lol

Yup, and after having someone like Sarah fill in for him for the time being he's going to look a whole lot better when the smoke clears. Him hiding in the bushes might be a meme at this point, but fuck, I'd probably have done it too.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 11 2017 23:12 GMT
#150188
On May 12 2017 07:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/862779120882786305


The beauty of saying every single possibility is that nobody believes anything you say anymore
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 11 2017 23:21 GMT
#150189
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 11 2017 23:24 GMT
#150190
So, which would you folk say has worse optics: the Flynn firing or the Comey firing?

Both look dumb in very different ways.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 23:38:08
May 11 2017 23:35 GMT
#150191
On May 12 2017 08:24 LegalLord wrote:
So, which would you folk say has worse optics: the Flynn firing or the Comey firing?

Both look dumb in very different ways.


comey, not even close. Firing the guy investigating you is completely insane.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 11 2017 23:42 GMT
#150192
Trump camp: It wasn't over the Russia investigation.

Trump: Talks about how the Russian investigation on the hour for 48 hours.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
May 12 2017 00:28 GMT
#150193
On May 12 2017 08:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/862799949196656640

Donald, if you want the investigation to go away, why do you bring it up on national television by saying the stupidest possible thing you could about it?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 12 2017 00:33 GMT
#150194
Life?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
May 12 2017 00:45 GMT
#150195

...

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson signed a document today calling climate change a “serious threat” to the Arctic and noting the need for action to reduce its potentially harmful effects.

The document, known as the Fairbanks Declaration, concluded Tillerson’s chairing of a meeting of the Arctic Council, a board made up of indigenous groups and the eight countries bordering the Arctic, in Fairbanks, Alaska.

While the council only has the power to issue advisories, the language in the statement signed by Tillerson comes in stark contrast to statements and promises made by President Trump about climate change.

...

While Tillerson endorsed the Arctic Council document, he cautioned that the U.S. would not be rushed into formulating its policy.

"We’re not going to rush to make a decision. We’re going to work to make the right decision for the United States," he said.

The Trump administration has not come out with a decision on whether the U.S. will pull out of the Paris Climate accord signed under President Obama. That non-binding international agreement went into effect last year and calls for countries to set goals for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

abcnews.go.com


Somewhat unexpected given all the talk about Chinese hoaxes and cutting EPA funding, but it's nothing too decisive in the end.

I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 12 2017 00:48 GMT
#150196
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-12 00:54:15
May 12 2017 00:53 GMT
#150197
On May 12 2017 09:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/862830498632085504


This is what I asked a week or two ago, he looks like a criminal and can't even appear to tell the truth to save his life. I mean even if he's totally innocent, he's so stupid for repeatedly coming on air. It's almost like he wants to make himself seem suspect.
Question.?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 12 2017 00:56 GMT
#150198
I'm gonna predict that when Comey gives testimony next week he's going to produce monster headlines by contradicting Trump's claim that he told Trump that Trump is not under investigation.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 12 2017 00:58 GMT
#150199
Only seven days after Donald J. Trump was sworn in as president, James B. Comey has told associates, the F.B.I. director was summoned to the White House for a one-on-one dinner with the new commander in chief.

The conversation that night in January, Mr. Comey now believes, was a harbinger of his downfall this week as head of the F.B.I., according to two people who have heard his account of the dinner.

As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies. The president then turned the conversation to whether Mr. Comey would pledge his loyalty to him.

Mr. Comey declined to make that pledge. Instead, Mr. Comey has recounted to others, he told Mr. Trump that he would always be honest with him, but that he was not “reliable” in the conventional political sense.


www.nytimes.com
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 12 2017 01:00 GMT
#150200
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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