EPTMeanwhile, the only people who are #winning from Trump's presidency are the late night comedy shows.
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Acrofales
Spain18042 Posts
Meanwhile, the only people who are #winning from Trump's presidency are the late night comedy shows. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On May 10 2017 23:39 Danglars wrote: The legislative and executive branches are separate. The AG doesn't bring issues up to the legislature. It's not a matter for Congress, only the Senate has a role and that's confirming or not confirming Presidential nominees. I have absolutely no idea where you're getting these ideas about the structure of the American government. The Russia probe and the bad agency head is a mess and was always going to be a mess. Can't you see there was no easy way out? I want to see the investigation continue under new leadership and I expect everyone to press their Senators to reject a possible bad nominee. Comey's a free man now. If he discovered some bombshell fact Trump is trying to suppress he won't sit still with a coverup investigation. It should be clear to you how Comey acted under the Obama administration that the FBI doesn't kow-tow to the President. Any civil officer of the US can be removed from their office through impeachment proceedings. This includes the director of the FBI if he mishandled his duties THAT severely. Let us keep in mind the only other FBI director to ever get fired prior to this was fired by Bill Clinton. the reasons? "The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives." Mishandling public funds and taxpayer dollars for personal gain. Thats pretty serious. Comey's was "lack of public trust" which is extremely vague. And with the circumstances any replacement will immediately be met with skepticism. Especially if the Democrats move to block the nomination but the simple majority from the Republicans towing party line gives them power. The GOP can spin any appointment that the dems oppose as "partisan" - when it could full well be clear to everyone and their mother that the appointee is flawed (wheres the public trust in that?). I don't believe that Trump will pick anoyone but someone loyal to him. He has zero track record aside from Mattis on trying to find someone actually good for the job. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
This account of the lead-up and the aftermath of Trump's decision is based on interviews with more than two dozen officials at the White House, the Justice Department, the FBI and on Capitol Hill, nearly all of whom spoke anonymously to describe an extraordinarily sensitive moment for Trump and his presidency. ... Multiple White House officials said Trump had been considering firing Comey for at least a week before he made Tuesday's decision. Indeed, Trump revealed his anger in a string of late-night messages on Twitter May 2, exactly a week before his final decision was made public. ... The idea of firing Comey was closely held within the West Wing, these officials say, where the few aides who were aware of Trump's intentions barely discussed the topic among themselves. Among those looped in: Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who began fine-tuning their rationale for removing Comey from his post shortly after learning of Trump's intentions. On Tuesday, they had their explanation: Comey mishandled the investigation into Clinton's emails. ... "This is a shitshow," one GOP aide said in a text message. www.cnn.com | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Actually, I do understand, it's called they don't care about anything but their nonsense agenda. | ||
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oBlade
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Gahlo
United States35158 Posts
On May 11 2017 00:19 oBlade wrote: Actually I guess stopped clocks can't be never right, isn't that interesting, only working clocks are capable of being perpetually wrong. Working clocks are either right or out of place. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On May 11 2017 00:29 Nevuk wrote: https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/862073819300810753 Is it the real one? I ask because this account isn't verified. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On May 11 2017 00:45 Danglars wrote: Next up Trump needs to fire his communications director and everybody in that department. He didn't have a guy out there this morning with the talking points. Shumer ejected his blather almost immediately and Trump's got his press secretary hiding in hedges. Absolutely irresponsible. You're not blaming that on Trump? | ||
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warding
Portugal2394 Posts
On May 10 2017 23:38 Doodsmack wrote: This clip is pretty amazing I have no idea how to interpret this. The Russian foreign minister is upset/disappointed by the firing? | ||
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ChristianS
United States3188 Posts
On May 10 2017 23:52 Danglars wrote: He gets into office and immediately fires the guy who's investigating Russian influence on the election. Have you lost your mind? That would be ten times worse as a matter of public visibility, no matter how justified he'd be in doing it. I'll stand with you if the new FBI head is treating the investigation lightly or senior FBI officials resign in disgust. In January, no AG Sessions and no Dep AG. I fail to see how having nobody to present said justifications makes them materialize into thin air. A lot of Democrats were more mad at Comey then for starters, and if Trump thought the email investigation was mishandled that would have been his first chance to act on that. Meanwhile we didn't know that much about the FBI's russia investigation yet at that point. Honestly I was surprised at the time that he didn't fire Comey. Now the only semiplausible explanation I see is that Rosenstein got in and immediately wanted to fire Comey, and that process took two weeks to bear out. But all evidence suggests it was Trump's idea, not Rosenstein's, and that the decision was quite abrupt. In which case any causes that took place in 2016 automatically ring quite hollow. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 11 2017 00:45 Danglars wrote: Next up Trump needs to fire his communications director and everybody in that department. He didn't have a guy out there this morning with the talking points. Shumer ejected his blather almost immediately and Trump's got his press secretary hiding in hedges. Absolutely irresponsible. This assumes that Trump can find someone more capable to take the job and can re-staff the communication department. And the press sec is supposed to relay the president’s message to the press. I’m not sure Trump gives Spicey much to work with. | ||
KwarK
United States42914 Posts
On May 10 2017 17:53 Biff The Understudy wrote: A shitload of people voted Trump enthusiastically, said and repeated he was great and went to his meetings to chant "lock her up". And there are still many of them supporting him. I'm sick of blame deflection to anyone but the folks who voted for the guy. If I follow this thread, it's not Danglar, xDaunt and Biologymajor who are to blame for this shitshow, but the DNC or the liberal elites. What about blaming the guys who voted for that grotesque narcissistic batman villain? In Bio's defence, he's no xDaunt. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
In his capacity as the guy that hired these people, sure. For example, I don't like Spicer, but who would take that job, seriously? Maybe it's Trump that ignores messaging is important, maybe his staff was tangled up without leadership composing talking points from the letter and other angles. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On May 11 2017 00:51 Danglars wrote: In his capacity as the guy that hired these people, sure. For example, I don't like Spicer, but who would take that job, seriously? Maybe it's Trump that ignores messaging is important, maybe his staff was tangled up without leadership composing talking points from the letter and other angles. Don't tell me that there aren't thousands of people wanting such a prestigious and undoubtedly well-paying job who are more capable of public communication than Spicer. The guy is a walking PR disaster, he isn't even good in fluently talking, so what is he doing in such job? I understand that it may be difficult for Trump to fill specific positions with top experts in the respective fields, if the best people for the job refuse to have anything with him, but here we are talking about a pretty generic job for which there must be hordes of candidates. | ||
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Canada13389 Posts
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