US Politics Mega-thread - Page 7435

On May 03 2017 05:58 LegalLord wrote:

It is in terms of how much potential it has to shift the voting tally.

On May 03 2017 06:23 LegalLord wrote:

Oh you mean the part where I never actually had that country tag? Yes, I remember that as well. I may or may not have had a US tag before - I honestly can't remember - but I've never used a Russia one.

Sorry dude, you're just the "big fat phony" guy making a big deal out of something that was already well known. And not to mention you use it more for the purpose of being obtuse (ur just med cuz rusha) than for any actual useful context.

On May 03 2017 06:23 LegalLord wrote:

Oh you mean the part where I never actually had that country tag? Yes, I remember that as well. I may or may not have had a US tag before - I honestly can't remember - but I've never used a Russia one.

Sorry dude, you're just the "big fat phony" guy making a big deal out of something that was already well known. And not to mention you use it more for the purpose of being obtuse (ur just med cuz rusha) than for any actual useful context.

On May 03 2017 06:42 LegalLord wrote:

As of when? I find it hard to remember something that didn't happen.

Not that it's a secret at all - I just don't put a country tag because neither US nor Russia are a good enough description.

The Trump administration is doing damage control as Congress inches toward passage of a massive spending deal that ducks the president's most contentious demands.

Less than 48 hours after the funding bill’s release, White House budget chief Mick Mulvaney is forcefully working to reverse the narrative that Democrats emerged as clear victors, and President Donald Trump is touting the legislation as delivering on his core campaign promises.

“They’re walking around trying to make it like they pulled one over fast on the president, and I just won’t stand for it,” Mulvaney said Tuesday afternoon during the daily White House press conference.

The budget director’s appearance at the White House media briefing marked his third check-in with reporters since Monday evening — a press blitz seemingly spurred by an angry president.

According to one person familiar with Trump’s thinking, the president was furious Tuesday morning with news coverage about the spending deal and "the idea he looked like the loser.”

Mulvaney was asked to do a last-minute media briefing Tuesday morning, after holding a call with reporters Monday night, and to clear his schedule for the 1:30 p.m. press conference, a White House official said.

Trump instructed his aides to change the messaging around the spending bill and decided to speak about the deal during an unrelated event at the Rose Garden, in an attempt to himself alter the narrative, one White House official said.

The president also took to Twitter to justify the Republican party’s Democratic concessions, explaining that the GOP only ceded to the minority party because Republicans lacks the requisite Senate votes to pass a spending bill without Democratic support.

“Our country needs a good ‘shutdown’ in September to fix mess!” Trump tweeted.

One adviser who frequently speaks to Trump said the president closely follows news coverage and tweets "when he feels like he isn't being defended."

Asked about Trump’s shutdown threat, Mulvaney said he thinks “the president is frustrated with the fact that he negotiated in good faith with the Democrats, and they went out to try to spike the football and make him look bad.”

While the budget director said he does not anticipate a lapse in federal funding in September, he warned that “if the Democrats aren’t going to behave any better than they have in the last couple of days, it may be inevitable.”

Earlier Tuesday, Mulvaney accused Democrats of trying to spur a shutdown on the spending bill Congress will consider this week.

“[Democrats] didn't get what many of them, including many in their base, wanted — they wanted a shutdown,” Mulvaney told reporters. “They wanted to make this president look like he did not know what he was doing. And he beat them on that at the very, very highest level. They were desperate to show that we were not reasonable, and we completely destroyed that narrative by negotiating this deal. This is a huge win for the president.”

The $1 trillion funding measure both the House and Senate are expected to pass by Friday ignores the most high-profile items on the White House’s wish list, including funding for Trump’s border wall project and the proposed $18 billion in cuts to domestic programs. But after a full day of Democratic victory parades on Capitol Hill, Mulvaney trumpeted the $15 billion boost in war funding and $1.5 billion for border security as major successes for the president.

In a speech Tuesday dedicated to honoring the Air Force Academy’s football team, Trump talked up Republicans’ “under-the-radar” victories in the spending bill — including border security. He also tried to claim a win on his long-promised border wall, arguing he could make a “down payment” and create an “unbreakable” barrier with the additional border security cash.

Lily Rozhkova was a journalist in Russia before she moved to the United States in 1999. Most of her friends in Washington are Russian, and the relationship between the two countries has become the first thing they talk about when they all get together.

“We do worry about this,” she says. “We’re just trying to stay optimistic and hope that they just work on the situation and don’t make our worst fears happen.”

Rozhkova, 44, is a green-card holder who works at a real estate office in Virginia. She remembers that when President Barack Obama booted out 35 Russian diplomats and their families in December as a penalty for Russian interference in the election she heard jokes from American friends and colleagues.

“They said, ‘Are you a spy? Do you work with KGB?’ And I told them there’s been no KGB for years,” she said, with a laugh. “They were just making a joke, but that was all.”

As the news churns and allegations grow, however, Rozhkova says the talk is occasionally more serious.

“I would say they are starting to mention Russia more in the past couple of months,” she says. “Before the election, it was more of a joke, but right now the more they hear from TV and media, it’s like this joke, they’re starting to believe it might be true.”

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The rector of the Russian Orthodox Cathedral of St. John the Baptist in Northwest Washington says that “being a Russian American now is almost on par with being a Russian American during the Cold War.”

Potapov, 68, came to the United States in 1950 when he was 2 years old. Growing up in Cleveland, his parents were fervent anti-Communists who always told their son to remind his American friends that there was a big difference between the Soviet regime and the Russian people.

So Potapov was thrilled when the Soviet Union collapsed and a new relationship emerged between the United States and a reborn Russia. Now that relationship is being strained in ways that worry him, at least in the short term. He thinks the issue of election meddling has been overblown and that there has been a lot of misunderstanding about Russia’s role.

“I’m always happy when there’s an American commentator who comes around and says, ‘Wait a minute guys, let’s stop and soberly discuss what’s going on.’ We can’t see a KGB agent behind every bush,” he says. “We’re delighted when there are people out there who write sober articles instead of alarming everybody.”

On May 03 2017 07:04 a_flayer wrote:
These last two pages kind of remind me of this article in the Washington Post.


Source

On May 03 2017 07:19 Paljas wrote:
^ indeed. Legallord is expected to appear before the HUAC in the following week, so we can put an end to this.




Seriosuly though, dont you guys get how insane you sound? Not wanting Russians in the US, unless they share the same opinions like you and like the EU?

On May 03 2017 07:19 Paljas wrote:
^ indeed. Legallord is expected to appear before the HUAC in the following week, so we can put an end to this.




Seriosuly though, dont you guys get how insane you sound? Not wanting Russians in the US, unless they share the same opinions like you and like the EU?

On May 03 2017 07:03 Paljas wrote:
I want to thank the true patriot Plansix for identifying and reporting the un-american activities of the user Legallord, who is suspected to be a russian and not a true american.