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On March 31 2017 05:20 LegalLord wrote:
I honestly feel that the attempt to saturate Trump with criticism - that which is deserved and that which is not - makes it harder to call him out when he does something genuinely wrong. That ISP bill should have died a miserable death by deadness. Instead it got buried because we just had so much other bullshit that no one gave a dang about it.
People should really wonder how something like that sneaks past. That's not something supported even by the constituents of the people who voted for it.
At least it will be legal for Comcast to sell your browsing/viewing history to the parties it's covering on MS/NBC.
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The best part of that bill was Rand Paul co sponsoring it then abstaining during the vote to pretend like he cares about privacy
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Rand Paul lost his "outsider" charm a long time ago.
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On March 31 2017 05:20 LegalLord wrote:
I honestly feel that the attempt to saturate Trump with criticism - that which is deserved and that which is not - makes it harder to call him out when he does something genuinely wrong. That ISP bill should have died a miserable death by deadness. Instead it got buried because we just had so much other bullshit that no one gave a dang about it.
while true, there's no real solution to it.
trump coverage and trump hate sells, so therefore it dominates coverage. there's always people criticizing everything, it's easy to find criticism on the internet, the question is how much of it gets filtered out/ignored.
it should be noted that bad bills like that are often moved through quietly, it's hardly the fiftieth time such a thing has happened.
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It's a good thing we didn't risk this turn of events happening, that we selected the most electable candidate possible to ensure that Trump wouldn't win because he's just so bad that we can't risk it.
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On March 31 2017 04:47 ticklishmusic wrote:because trump hasnt done anything to muck the economy up yet. once he tries getting a less-than-good budget or tax plan passed and it fails bigly, then people will be divested of the "he's a businessman he's gotta be good at the monies" hope. the stock market already started having that "oh shit" moment this/ last week.
He's had an impact on the economy though. The economy already reacted strongly to the possibility of a tax holiday, tax breaks on repatriated money and so forth. The dollar jumped in part due to the possibility of the border adjustment tax and partly due to global instability as a whole, of which Trump is a symptom.
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Times like this it's important to remember that it's been barely over two months of Trump being president. In a time scale that is essentially meaningless economically, he has fucked up quite a lot.
The economic fallout of his presidency, we will live to see. Be patient.
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On March 31 2017 05:46 LegalLord wrote:
It's a good thing we didn't risk this turn of events happening, that we selected the most electable candidate possible to ensure that Trump wouldn't win because he's just so bad that we can't risk it.
please stop trolling. it's very old by now. and we all know no choice can ensure trump wouldn't win.
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On March 31 2017 05:28 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 05:20 LegalLord wrote:
I honestly feel that the attempt to saturate Trump with criticism - that which is deserved and that which is not - makes it harder to call him out when he does something genuinely wrong. That ISP bill should have died a miserable death by deadness. Instead it got buried because we just had so much other bullshit that no one gave a dang about it. People should really wonder how something like that sneaks past. That's not something supported even by the constituents of the people who voted for it. At least it will be legal for Comcast to sell your browsing/viewing history to the parties it's covering on MS/NBC.
It didn't sneak past. The Republicans control all three branches and they are in favour of it. It passed with political support, it wasn't buried and it wouldn't have been blocked had there been less other drama. The people in power generally supported it. It wasn't particularly controversial within the Republican party.
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On March 31 2017 05:57 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 05:46 LegalLord wrote:
It's a good thing we didn't risk this turn of events happening, that we selected the most electable candidate possible to ensure that Trump wouldn't win because he's just so bad that we can't risk it. please stop trolling. it's very old by now. and we all know no choice can ensure trump wouldn't win.
It's necessary to make sure people understand properly about how things came to where they are now - as a result of some laughably and clearly idiotic shilling for a candidate that everyone but those most invested in her success knew would be terrible.
That it bothers you to have that point drilled does not surprise me.
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The newest Senate Republican throws out a lifeline for a floundering Trump WH.
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On March 31 2017 05:57 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 05:28 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 31 2017 05:20 LegalLord wrote:
I honestly feel that the attempt to saturate Trump with criticism - that which is deserved and that which is not - makes it harder to call him out when he does something genuinely wrong. That ISP bill should have died a miserable death by deadness. Instead it got buried because we just had so much other bullshit that no one gave a dang about it. People should really wonder how something like that sneaks past. That's not something supported even by the constituents of the people who voted for it. At least it will be legal for Comcast to sell your browsing/viewing history to the parties it's covering on MS/NBC. It didn't sneak past. The Republicans control all three branches and they are in favour of it. It passed with political support, it wasn't buried and it wouldn't have been blocked had there been less other drama. The people in power generally supported it. It wasn't particularly controversial within the Republican party.
Pretty sure it has to avoid being filibustered in the senate as well, which is likely.
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On March 31 2017 05:59 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 05:57 zlefin wrote:On March 31 2017 05:46 LegalLord wrote:
It's a good thing we didn't risk this turn of events happening, that we selected the most electable candidate possible to ensure that Trump wouldn't win because he's just so bad that we can't risk it. please stop trolling. it's very old by now. and we all know no choice can ensure trump wouldn't win. It's necessary to make sure people understand properly about how things came to where they are now - as a result of some laughably and clearly idiotic shilling for a candidate that everyone but those most invested in her success knew would be terrible. That it bothers you to have that point drilled does not surprise me.
again, please stop trolling. at this point it's established you do this not for any enlightenment or explanation, but because you know it annoys people to repeat it endlessly, and its' very old by now. doing something specifically to get a rise out of people is me actually using the term trolling precisely (usually I use it far more liberally).
it bothers me cuz it's old, it's like a running gag that ran for too long and is just very stale by now.
also the numerous factual errors in your claim, which renders it false and non-explanatory, but that's not really as important as the it's a very very stale joke. also, that it is literally trolling.
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On March 31 2017 05:59 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 05:57 zlefin wrote:On March 31 2017 05:46 LegalLord wrote:
It's a good thing we didn't risk this turn of events happening, that we selected the most electable candidate possible to ensure that Trump wouldn't win because he's just so bad that we can't risk it. please stop trolling. it's very old by now. and we all know no choice can ensure trump wouldn't win. It's necessary to make sure people understand properly about how things came to where they are now - as a result of some laughably and clearly idiotic shilling for a candidate that everyone but those most invested in her success knew would be terrible. That it bothers you to have that point drilled does not surprise me.
I don't blame Democrats for 'a significant part of the country' being idiots.
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No shock here. Democrats don’t need him to filibuster and Trump is super popular in his state. I doubt they could have forced him if they tried.
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On March 31 2017 06:01 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 05:57 KwarK wrote:On March 31 2017 05:28 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 31 2017 05:20 LegalLord wrote:
I honestly feel that the attempt to saturate Trump with criticism - that which is deserved and that which is not - makes it harder to call him out when he does something genuinely wrong. That ISP bill should have died a miserable death by deadness. Instead it got buried because we just had so much other bullshit that no one gave a dang about it. People should really wonder how something like that sneaks past. That's not something supported even by the constituents of the people who voted for it. At least it will be legal for Comcast to sell your browsing/viewing history to the parties it's covering on MS/NBC. It didn't sneak past. The Republicans control all three branches and they are in favour of it. It passed with political support, it wasn't buried and it wouldn't have been blocked had there been less other drama. The people in power generally supported it. It wasn't particularly controversial within the Republican party. Pretty sure it has to avoid being filibustered in the senate as well, which is likely.
I already posted about this earlier, but the FCC rule was invalidated under joint resolutions enabled via statute (the Congressional Review Act) that bypass the filibuster by design.
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On March 31 2017 06:03 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 05:59 LegalLord wrote:On March 31 2017 05:57 zlefin wrote:On March 31 2017 05:46 LegalLord wrote:
It's a good thing we didn't risk this turn of events happening, that we selected the most electable candidate possible to ensure that Trump wouldn't win because he's just so bad that we can't risk it. please stop trolling. it's very old by now. and we all know no choice can ensure trump wouldn't win. It's necessary to make sure people understand properly about how things came to where they are now - as a result of some laughably and clearly idiotic shilling for a candidate that everyone but those most invested in her success knew would be terrible. That it bothers you to have that point drilled does not surprise me. I don't blame Democrats for 'a significant part of the country' being idiots.
No, they aren't responsible for the base of support of Trump being there. But you knew we had that if you had seen the Bush years. The problem was of course that they played the game in such a way that they gave the clown a path to victory. They pissed off enough of their base that enough people voted for Trump as a lesser evil.
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On March 31 2017 06:05 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 06:03 Gorsameth wrote:On March 31 2017 05:59 LegalLord wrote:On March 31 2017 05:57 zlefin wrote:On March 31 2017 05:46 LegalLord wrote:
It's a good thing we didn't risk this turn of events happening, that we selected the most electable candidate possible to ensure that Trump wouldn't win because he's just so bad that we can't risk it. please stop trolling. it's very old by now. and we all know no choice can ensure trump wouldn't win. It's necessary to make sure people understand properly about how things came to where they are now - as a result of some laughably and clearly idiotic shilling for a candidate that everyone but those most invested in her success knew would be terrible. That it bothers you to have that point drilled does not surprise me. I don't blame Democrats for 'a significant part of the country' being idiots. No, they aren't responsible for the base of support of Trump being there. But you knew we had that if you had seen the Bush years. The problem was of course that they played the game in such a way that they gave the clown a path to victory. They pissed off enough of their base that enough people voted for Trump as a lesser evil.
and it's still far from clear that an alternative would have in fact produced a better result.
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On March 31 2017 06:08 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2017 06:05 LegalLord wrote:On March 31 2017 06:03 Gorsameth wrote:On March 31 2017 05:59 LegalLord wrote:On March 31 2017 05:57 zlefin wrote:On March 31 2017 05:46 LegalLord wrote:
It's a good thing we didn't risk this turn of events happening, that we selected the most electable candidate possible to ensure that Trump wouldn't win because he's just so bad that we can't risk it. please stop trolling. it's very old by now. and we all know no choice can ensure trump wouldn't win. It's necessary to make sure people understand properly about how things came to where they are now - as a result of some laughably and clearly idiotic shilling for a candidate that everyone but those most invested in her success knew would be terrible. That it bothers you to have that point drilled does not surprise me. I don't blame Democrats for 'a significant part of the country' being idiots. No, they aren't responsible for the base of support of Trump being there. But you knew we had that if you had seen the Bush years. The problem was of course that they played the game in such a way that they gave the clown a path to victory. They pissed off enough of their base that enough people voted for Trump as a lesser evil. and it's still far from clear that an alternative would have in fact produced a better result.
Guess we had no choice but to be defeated by Trump then. No possible way to beat the least liked candidate in history, nosiree.
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