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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 16 2017 18:50 GMT
#137841
He's now talking about a non existent plastic button and how it looks cheap...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 16 2017 18:50 GMT
#137842
On February 17 2017 03:47 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he IS the president now, this isn't running mode anymore

You just don't understand how amazing Trump's plan is. You lack the intellectual honesty to see past your bias. That is the problem, which I am sure Daunt will point out any minute now.

I may have seen this show a bunch of times.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
February 16 2017 18:50 GMT
#137843
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


He said good, not popular. Two different things xDaunt. This isn't his reality show
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2017 18:51 GMT
#137844
On February 17 2017 03:47 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:42 oneofthem wrote:
daunt calling kgb stringing an american president inconsequential

lmfao

And where did I say that? Get fucking real.

for real tho how do you see your boy trump right now


There's nothing really to judge yet. He hasn't even been in office for a month. I'm not really surprised by anything that he has done. He's doing what he campaigned on. And he's aggressively trying to push his agenda, which I like. What I don't like is the constant hand-wringing from the GOP on Capitol Hill. Their inaction on Obamacare is particularly disgraceful.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28923 Posts
February 16 2017 18:51 GMT
#137845
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22702 Posts
February 16 2017 18:51 GMT
#137846
On February 17 2017 03:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

So if Flynn did brake the Logan Act Trump just incriminated himself?

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2017 18:54 GMT
#137847
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 16 2017 18:55 GMT
#137848
Holy fuck did he just reveal that US intelligence was doing the same to Russia. Get him off the stage now!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 16 2017 18:55 GMT
#137849
On February 17 2017 03:51 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:47 oneofthem wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:42 oneofthem wrote:
daunt calling kgb stringing an american president inconsequential

lmfao

And where did I say that? Get fucking real.

for real tho how do you see your boy trump right now


There's nothing really to judge yet. He hasn't even been in office for a month. I'm not really surprised by anything that he has done. He's doing what he campaigned on. And he's aggressively trying to push his agenda, which I like. What I don't like is the constant hand-wringing from the GOP on Capitol Hill. Their inaction on Obamacare is particularly disgraceful.

Weirdly, destroying something that makes up a huge section of the economy and took two years to create isn’t a quick process. Plus those 20 million voters who insurance they might cancel.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-16 18:56:38
February 16 2017 18:55 GMT
#137850
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.
Life?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 16 2017 18:56 GMT
#137851
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 16 2017 18:56 GMT
#137852
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


It's that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Xdaunt loves strong leaders and dislikes the press, so a dictatorship is just "alternative democracy".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 16 2017 18:56 GMT
#137853
We're all going to die...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 16 2017 18:58 GMT
#137854
On February 17 2017 03:51 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:47 oneofthem wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:42 oneofthem wrote:
daunt calling kgb stringing an american president inconsequential

lmfao

And where did I say that? Get fucking real.

for real tho how do you see your boy trump right now


There's nothing really to judge yet. He hasn't even been in office for a month. I'm not really surprised by anything that he has done. He's doing what he campaigned on. And he's aggressively trying to push his agenda, which I like. What I don't like is the constant hand-wringing from the GOP on Capitol Hill. Their inaction on Obamacare is particularly disgraceful.

do you think we should have a democracy or is it overrated
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
February 16 2017 18:58 GMT
#137855
I DONT HAVE TO TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING.

Great president we got here folks. Thanks baby boomers and rural Murica.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
February 16 2017 18:58 GMT
#137856
On February 17 2017 03:51 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:47 oneofthem wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:43 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:42 oneofthem wrote:
daunt calling kgb stringing an american president inconsequential

lmfao

And where did I say that? Get fucking real.

for real tho how do you see your boy trump right now


There's nothing really to judge yet. He hasn't even been in office for a month. I'm not really surprised by anything that he has done. He's doing what he campaigned on. And he's aggressively trying to push his agenda, which I like. What I don't like is the constant hand-wringing from the GOP on Capitol Hill. Their inaction on Obamacare is particularly disgraceful.


The only reason the GOP haven't taken action on Obamacare is because Trump made a whole bunch of promises about it that they didn't want him to make. It's not really their fault it wasn't repealed.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2017 18:58 GMT
#137857
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 16 2017 18:59 GMT
#137858
"we're gonna attack mosul!"

uh, we've been attacking mosul for several months already.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28923 Posts
February 16 2017 18:59 GMT
#137859
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


His base is not enough to win an election against an energized opposition. His primary success during the election was making people think Hillary was a disastrous candidate. I genuinely give him props for his ability to bring her down, he's good at that. But now, his behavior continues to fuel the opposition, and it continues to make the reluctant voters more reluctant. He's also making europeans buy subscriptions for the NY times etc - being vocally opposed to Trump is a much sounder economic choice than supporting him.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
February 16 2017 19:00 GMT
#137860
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).
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