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{CC}StealthBlue
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:47 IyMoon wrote: But he IS the president now, this isn't running mode anymore You just don't understand how amazing Trump's plan is. You lack the intellectual honesty to see past your bias. That is the problem, which I am sure Daunt will point out any minute now. I may have seen this show a bunch of times. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
He said good, not popular. Two different things xDaunt. This isn't his reality show | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:47 oneofthem wrote: for real tho how do you see your boy trump right now There's nothing really to judge yet. He hasn't even been in office for a month. I'm not really surprised by anything that he has done. He's doing what he campaigned on. And he's aggressively trying to push his agenda, which I like. What I don't like is the constant hand-wringing from the GOP on Capitol Hill. Their inaction on Obamacare is particularly disgraceful. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28738 Posts
But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22081 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So if Flynn did brake the Logan Act Trump just incriminated himself? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote: But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Plansix
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On February 17 2017 03:51 xDaunt wrote: There's nothing really to judge yet. He hasn't even been in office for a month. I'm not really surprised by anything that he has done. He's doing what he campaigned on. And he's aggressively trying to push his agenda, which I like. What I don't like is the constant hand-wringing from the GOP on Capitol Hill. Their inaction on Obamacare is particularly disgraceful. Weirdly, destroying something that makes up a huge section of the economy and took two years to create isn’t a quick process. Plus those 20 million voters who insurance they might cancel. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote: Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: It's that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Xdaunt loves strong leaders and dislikes the press, so a dictatorship is just "alternative democracy". | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:51 xDaunt wrote: There's nothing really to judge yet. He hasn't even been in office for a month. I'm not really surprised by anything that he has done. He's doing what he campaigned on. And he's aggressively trying to push his agenda, which I like. What I don't like is the constant hand-wringing from the GOP on Capitol Hill. Their inaction on Obamacare is particularly disgraceful. do you think we should have a democracy or is it overrated | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
Great president we got here folks. Thanks baby boomers and rural Murica. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:51 xDaunt wrote: There's nothing really to judge yet. He hasn't even been in office for a month. I'm not really surprised by anything that he has done. He's doing what he campaigned on. And he's aggressively trying to push his agenda, which I like. What I don't like is the constant hand-wringing from the GOP on Capitol Hill. Their inaction on Obamacare is particularly disgraceful. The only reason the GOP haven't taken action on Obamacare is because Trump made a whole bunch of promises about it that they didn't want him to make. It's not really their fault it wasn't repealed. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
uh, we've been attacking mosul for several months already. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28738 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote: Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. His base is not enough to win an election against an energized opposition. His primary success during the election was making people think Hillary was a disastrous candidate. I genuinely give him props for his ability to bring her down, he's good at that. But now, his behavior continues to fuel the opposition, and it continues to make the reluctant voters more reluctant. He's also making europeans buy subscriptions for the NY times etc - being vocally opposed to Trump is a much sounder economic choice than supporting him.  | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote: Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing). | ||
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