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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2017 19:01 GMT
#137861
On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).

Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 16 2017 19:02 GMT
#137862
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


You ignore it? Keep doing your job? I mean if he's a real christian, he would just be humble, remember the golden rule, and do his job. Not judge the media.
Life?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 16 2017 19:03 GMT
#137863
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/16/donald-trumps-grievance-filled-press-conference-annotated/?utm_term=.0c4114cf0f81#annotations:11355797

wapo's got a nice transcript that they're annotating and updating real time.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2017 19:03 GMT
#137864
On February 17 2017 04:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


You ignore it? Keep doing your job? I mean if he's a real christian, he would just be humble, remember the golden rule, and do his job. Not judge the media.

Sorry, but I don't subscribe to defeatist ideology. Enemies must be defeated. Trump is handling the press as he should.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 16 2017 19:06 GMT
#137865
On February 17 2017 04:03 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.



You ignore it? Keep doing your job? I mean if he's a real christian, he would just be humble, remember the golden rule, and do his job. Not judge the media.

Sorry, but I don't subscribe to defeatist ideology. Enemies must be defeated. Trump is handling the press as he should.

Authoritarianism is a hell of a drug.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
February 16 2017 19:06 GMT
#137866
On February 17 2017 04:03 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


You ignore it? Keep doing your job? I mean if he's a real christian, he would just be humble, remember the golden rule, and do his job. Not judge the media.

Sorry, but I don't subscribe to defeatist ideology. Enemies must be defeated. Trump is handling the press as he should.


So you believe the press views trump as an enemy correct? Which means according to you they should never stop trying to defeat him?
Something witty
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 16 2017 19:07 GMT
#137867
As a Cuban, I dislike Trump, but I will say the view is split in Miami. Rich Cuban republicans, love Trump, cause "change". The old cubans think Bernie was a dictator, while Trump was the answer (reminds me a lot of the Cuban Revolution my grandma always talks about). The young Cubans are much more center, left.
Life?
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-16 19:09:03
February 16 2017 19:08 GMT
#137868
On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).

Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats?


The press was pretty soft on Obama I always thought. So what?

You don't get to complain about being treated fairly because someone else got away with something.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2017 19:08 GMT
#137869
On February 17 2017 04:06 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:03 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


You ignore it? Keep doing your job? I mean if he's a real christian, he would just be humble, remember the golden rule, and do his job. Not judge the media.

Sorry, but I don't subscribe to defeatist ideology. Enemies must be defeated. Trump is handling the press as he should.


So you believe the press views trump as an enemy correct? Which means according to you they should never stop trying to defeat him?

Sure, the press very clearly views Trump as an enemy as shown by their coverage of Trump. I think that they are mistaken to adopt the position that they have, but for as long as they hold that position, I wouldn't expect them to materially change their coverage of him.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2017 19:10 GMT
#137870
On February 17 2017 04:08 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).

Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats?


The press was pretty soft on Obama I always thought. So what?

You don't get to complain about being treated fairly because someone else got away with something.

Once you understand that the press treats the two political parties materially differently, then it becomes clear that the press is not really fulfilling the constitutional safeguards that some claim that they do, which in turn means that Trump and Republicans should treat the press with a certain degree of hostility.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 16 2017 19:11 GMT
#137871
I don't think Trump knows what the CBC does, also asking a black reporter if the CBC was friends of hers...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 16 2017 19:12 GMT
#137872
The natural relationship between the press and White House is confrontation. The press has always filled this role.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
February 16 2017 19:12 GMT
#137873
On February 17 2017 04:10 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:08 Logo wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).

Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats?


The press was pretty soft on Obama I always thought. So what?

You don't get to complain about being treated fairly because someone else got away with something.

Once you understand that the press treats the two political parties materially differently, then it becomes clear that the press is not really fulfilling the constitutional safeguards that some claim that they do, which in turn means that Trump and Republicans should treat the press with a certain degree of hostility.


So because the press gives dems a pass (a bogus claim, but irrelevant) them holding elected republicans to a proper standard is wrong? That makes no sense.

This line of thinking just reeks of Party over Country.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 16 2017 19:13 GMT
#137874
On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).

Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats?

Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it.

So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 16 2017 19:13 GMT
#137875
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The leaks are real but the news is fake? Trump takes it much farther than what you claim is necessary.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 16 2017 19:13 GMT
#137876
"We will stop crime". Oh boy Martial Law coming soon.
Life?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 16 2017 19:14 GMT
#137877
On February 17 2017 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).

Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats?

Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it.

So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently.

No, we don't tap dance around Trump's lying. We acknowledge it, and make it clear that we really don't care.
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United States7542 Posts
February 16 2017 19:15 GMT
#137878
On February 17 2017 04:14 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).

Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats?

Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it.

So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently.

No, we don't tap dance around Trump's lying. We acknowledge it, and make it clear that we really don't care.


But you care when other people care then call them biased because they care?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 16 2017 19:16 GMT
#137879
On February 17 2017 04:14 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it

How does he think this is a good move?

He became president by doing it?


But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore.

Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support.


Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me.

Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy.


The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing).

Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats?

Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it.

So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently.

No, we don't tap dance around Trump's lying. We acknowledge it, and make it clear that we really don't care.


This is why the country is split. Thanks.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 16 2017 19:16 GMT
#137880
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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