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On February 17 2017 04:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself
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On February 17 2017 04:17 biology]major wrote:what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself
I think the implication tweet is making is that he's acting like she must know the black caucus members because she's black.
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United States44016 Posts
On February 17 2017 03:34 xDaunt wrote:
I think history has shown that correcting Trump on the trivial is counterproductive to the press's goal of taking Trump down. But hey, keep it up.
Ah yes, that secret conspiratorial world in which asking that Trump tell the truth is done only as part of an elaborate revenge plot involving the (((mainstream media))).
Do you really think there could be no other motive for expecting honesty from the President but malice?
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On February 17 2017 04:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:14 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
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He became president by doing it? But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing). Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats? Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it. So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently. No, we don't tap dance around Trump's lying. We acknowledge it, and make it clear that we really don't care. This is why the country is split. Thanks.
No, this isn't why the country is split. This is a symptom that the country is split.
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So apparently this Presser was to unveil his new Labor nominee, don't think he even got to that point.
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United States44016 Posts
On February 17 2017 04:06 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:03 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it
How does he think this is a good move? He became president by doing it? But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. You ignore it? Keep doing your job? I mean if he's a real christian, he would just be humble, remember the golden rule, and do his job. Not judge the media. Sorry, but I don't subscribe to defeatist ideology. Enemies must be defeated. Trump is handling the press as he should. Authoritarianism is a hell of a drug.
xDaunt has completely lost the plot. Trump has empowered the lunatic undercurrent that existed within America.
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On February 17 2017 04:17 biology]major wrote:what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself
It's more of the same race-baiting that we have come to expect from the regressive left.
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On February 17 2017 04:29 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:17 biology]major wrote:what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself It's more of the same race-baiting that we have come to expect from the regressive left.
I thought it was alt-regressive left now.
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On February 17 2017 04:30 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:29 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:17 biology]major wrote:what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself It's more of the same race-baiting that we have come to expect from the regressive left. I thought it was alt-regressive left now.
Eh, I'm not a fan of "Alt Left" as a term. I think it's manufactured and doubt that it will catch on.
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Well seeing how Trump asked what the CBC was then when she told him he asked her to setup a meeting, pure happenstance I'm sure.
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On February 17 2017 04:14 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it
How does he think this is a good move? He became president by doing it? But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing). Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats? Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it. So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently. No, we don't tap dance around Trump's lying. We acknowledge it, and make it clear that we really don't care.
your emperor has no clothes. we know it. you know it. the thing is, you'd just like to pretend it's not so.
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On February 17 2017 04:27 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:06 Plansix wrote:On February 17 2017 04:03 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:44 IyMoon wrote:
I am not calling you all assholes, you are just assholes, but I enjoy it
How does he think this is a good move? He became president by doing it? But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. You ignore it? Keep doing your job? I mean if he's a real christian, he would just be humble, remember the golden rule, and do his job. Not judge the media. Sorry, but I don't subscribe to defeatist ideology. Enemies must be defeated. Trump is handling the press as he should. Authoritarianism is a hell of a drug. xDaunt has completely lost the plot. Trump has empowered the lunatic undercurrent that existed within America.
There is a special section of conservatives that are purely in it to crush liberals and nothing else. It doesn't matter what the topic is, they just want to see the other team lose. Pro-wresting conservatives, who love a strong leader that takes it to the liberals, their media and those activist judges. Even if he is an under qualified, lying conman.
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On February 17 2017 04:29 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:17 biology]major wrote:what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself It's more of the same race-baiting that we have come to expect from the regressive left.
honestly, that did't even cross my mind. I'm glad im not a leftist, looking at everything through the prism of race and sex and orientation must be both tiring and depressing.
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On February 17 2017 04:32 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:14 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
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He became president by doing it? But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing). Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats? Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it. So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently. No, we don't tap dance around Trump's lying. We acknowledge it, and make it clear that we really don't care. your emperor has no clothes. we know it. you know it. the thing is, you'd just like to pretend it's not so.
He doesn't want to pretend it's not so, he's saying so what if the emperor is naked, only the vengeful regressive left would waste time pointing out the emperor seems to have lost his tenuous grip on reality.
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On February 17 2017 04:34 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:29 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:17 biology]major wrote:what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself It's more of the same race-baiting that we have come to expect from the regressive left. honestly, that did't even cross my mind. I'm glad im not a leftist, looking at everything through the prism of race and sex and orientation must be both tiring and depressing.
i agree that sounds tiring and depressing. spoiler alert: the left (leftists is a deliberately pejorative term) doesnt actually do that.
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On February 17 2017 04:34 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:29 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:17 biology]major wrote:what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself It's more of the same race-baiting that we have come to expect from the regressive left. honestly, that did't even cross my mind. I'm glad im not a leftist, looking at everything through the prism of race and sex and orientation must be both tiring and depressing.
It's not the defining trait of leftistism.  I thought it was predictable that there'd be a response of the 'you're black, you must know them' kind - interpretation, but I didn't see it that way. I did think it was a bit ridiculous, in the way everything Trump says is a bit ridiculous, but not because there was a racial aspect to it. I mean, she did invoke the black caucus, it wasn't like Trump pulled the connection based on race alone.
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United States44016 Posts
On February 17 2017 04:34 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:29 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:17 biology]major wrote:what is this even supposed to mean? referring to the tweet itself It's more of the same race-baiting that we have come to expect from the regressive left. honestly, that did't even cross my mind. I'm glad im not a leftist, looking at everything through the prism of race and sex and orientation must be both tiring and depressing.
You're absolutely right that looking at Trump is depressing, especially from a racism angle. It's because he says things like that he wants Jews handling his money, and had to be legally compelled to start renting to "colored people", that when a black reporter asks about the black caucus and he tells her to set up the meet we're suspicious that he thinks they all live together in one big halfway house in "the inner cities".
You've got to admit that it's not much of a stretch with Trump. Most people don't say these things because most people aren't 70 year olds with a track record of racism but even then, those that do would probably be given the benefit of the doubt. Trump doesn't get the benefit of the doubt when he implies all people of an ethnic minority know each other because there really isn't much benefit of the doubt left in his case.
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On February 17 2017 04:32 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:14 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 17 2017 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
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He became president by doing it? But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing). Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats? Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it. So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently. No, we don't tap dance around Trump's lying. We acknowledge it, and make it clear that we really don't care. your emperor has no clothes. we know it. you know it. the thing is, you'd just like to pretend it's not so.
The Right isn't pretending anything. It knows what Trump is and what Trump is not. All that matters is the bottom line. And the bottom line here is that Trump is the tool through which many policies favored by the Right will be enacted. It just happens to be an added benefit that Trump is going to do permanent damage to Leftist institutions that have antagonized the Right for years.
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On February 17 2017 04:41 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2017 04:32 ticklishmusic wrote:On February 17 2017 04:14 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 17 2017 04:01 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 04:00 Logo wrote:On February 17 2017 03:58 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On February 17 2017 03:54 xDaunt wrote:On February 17 2017 03:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
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But he won when he was running against someone. Now it's just him. I agree that a lot of stuff that happened during the campaign could be excused as part of winning the presidency, but only under the condition that he dropped that behavior after being elected. And it really doesn't seem to be a winning strategy anymore. Trump ran against the press at least as much as he ran against Hillary. The press is his whipping boy and permanent foil. Like I have said before, Trump correctly understands that his biggest opposition is the press, and he's handling it with the proper amount of hostility so as to erode confidence in the press and maintain his support. Isn't that how all dictatorships start though? Lol... I find you the kind of person that use to watch the apprentice religiously. I may be wrong, but that's just how this post came off for me. Sure, there are risks to what Trump is doing. But guess what? Given the hostility of the press to him and his policies, Trump doesn't have a choice. Neither does any other conservative or republican. The press is as much as the enemy as democrats to right-leaning policy. The press is supposed to be hostile; he's an elected official. You can argue it was unfair during the primary, but that's irrelevant for being President. It's basically one of the built in checks and balances of the government (hence the whole 4th estate thing). Are you really going to argue that the press treats Trump and Republicans no differently than it treats Obama and the Democrats? Trump is also a blatant liar, and the Republicans who support Trump tap dance around it. So obviously two drastically different people (with drastically different levels of competency) will be treated differently. No, we don't tap dance around Trump's lying. We acknowledge it, and make it clear that we really don't care. your emperor has no clothes. we know it. you know it. the thing is, you'd just like to pretend it's not so. The Right isn't pretending anything. It knows what Trump is and what Trump is not. All that matters is the bottom line. And the bottom line here is that Trump is the tool through which many policies favored by the Right will be enacted. It just happens to be an added benefit that Trump is going to do permanent damage to Leftist institutions that have antagonized the Right for years.
I'm sure you would love this argument if it was used by the left. Yeah we don't care that they habitually lie, seem remarkably uninformed (didn't know what the CBC was for example), questionable foreign relations, etc... because you know, they are going to pass stuff we want.
lol, like come on man, you're too smart to think that doesn't look idiotic.
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