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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
January 31 2017 19:20 GMT
#134381
On February 01 2017 04:01 oneofthem wrote:
community college is seen as the platform for technical education that matches market demand. if the media did its job and we had some sort of policy discussion during the campaigning days, people would see that traditional colleges may not be the answer for lifting people from inequality. a good technical education that is in an area of demand is often better.

A good example of this is the difference between a BS in biology and being a dental hygienist. If you don't intend to go to grad school, a biology degree is particularly not-stellar. Less school to be a dental hygienist with better career outlooks/salary etc. All depends on what you want to do, though.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 31 2017 19:21 GMT
#134382
On February 01 2017 04:05 Nyxisto wrote:
the apprenticeship system is good stuff but America would need to change the whole framework. It basically works because we've also got the whole surrounding craftsman system, the trade organisations that require certification, standardised training, and all the other official institutions involved in it.

well yea, here we have both shitty and confused market for vocational education full of predatory private schools, and also a confusing and restrictive professional certification system that acts to keep people out of work.

having the community college system move towards an apprentice system would involve more collaboration between employers and regional community colleges. jason furman's talked about this a bunch as well as a number of clinton people.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 31 2017 19:26 GMT
#134383
The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) agents arrested for treason and illegal hacking reportedly passed confidential information to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, sources close to the investigation told the news agency Interfax.

Sergei Mikhailov, a top cybersecurity specialist in the FSB, and his deputy Dmitry Dokuchaev are being accused of “breaking their oath and working with the CIA,” Interfax reported, citing an anonymous source that did not specify if Mikhailov and Dokuchaev worked directly with the CIA or through intermediaries.

“Four people have been arrested in this case, and eight individuals in total have been identified as accomplices. Only four suspects have been charged, and the others could get off as witnesses,” the source told Interfax.


The Moscow Times
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
January 31 2017 19:31 GMT
#134384


Is this Spicer being bad at his job, or an actual policy for the administration?
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 19:32:32
January 31 2017 19:31 GMT
#134385
On February 01 2017 04:26 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) agents arrested for treason and illegal hacking reportedly passed confidential information to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, sources close to the investigation told the news agency Interfax.

Sergei Mikhailov, a top cybersecurity specialist in the FSB, and his deputy Dmitry Dokuchaev are being accused of “breaking their oath and working with the CIA,” Interfax reported, citing an anonymous source that did not specify if Mikhailov and Dokuchaev worked directly with the CIA or through intermediaries.

“Four people have been arrested in this case, and eight individuals in total have been identified as accomplices. Only four suspects have been charged, and the others could get off as witnesses,” the source told Interfax.


The Moscow Times

Hopefully headed for the gulags.

On February 01 2017 04:31 Logo wrote:
https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/826502684245184513

Is this Spicer being bad at his job, or an actual policy for the administration?

Seems to be policy from what I've seen.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
January 31 2017 19:33 GMT
#134386
On February 01 2017 04:31 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 04:26 Doodsmack wrote:
The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) agents arrested for treason and illegal hacking reportedly passed confidential information to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, sources close to the investigation told the news agency Interfax.

Sergei Mikhailov, a top cybersecurity specialist in the FSB, and his deputy Dmitry Dokuchaev are being accused of “breaking their oath and working with the CIA,” Interfax reported, citing an anonymous source that did not specify if Mikhailov and Dokuchaev worked directly with the CIA or through intermediaries.

“Four people have been arrested in this case, and eight individuals in total have been identified as accomplices. Only four suspects have been charged, and the others could get off as witnesses,” the source told Interfax.


The Moscow Times

Hopefully headed for the gulags.

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 04:31 Logo wrote:
https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/826502684245184513

Is this Spicer being bad at his job, or an actual policy for the administration?

Seems to be policy from what I've seen.


Well about time then! Hopefully there's no redefinition of citizen or something stupid like that to get around it.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22189 Posts
January 31 2017 19:50 GMT
#134387
On February 01 2017 04:31 Logo wrote:
https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/826502684245184513

Is this Spicer being bad at his job, or an actual policy for the administration?

So is this announcing that the US will from now on aim to kill women and children like Trump said 'we' should?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
January 31 2017 19:53 GMT
#134388
On February 01 2017 04:31 Logo wrote:
https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/826502684245184513

Is this Spicer being bad at his job, or an actual policy for the administration?


Didn't Trumps first raid just kill an 8yo US girl... (amongst other civilians, but we know that foreign civilians don't count)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 31 2017 19:54 GMT
#134389
This seems highly unusual- I've never heard of the bar doing anything like it before :

In Rare Move, American Bar Association Says Trump Immigration Orders Jeopardize Justice

The American Bar Association, an organization of attorneys that is not known for its political statements, weighed in on the Trump administration’s recent executive orders dealing with immigration. Turns out, they’re not exactly fans.

In a statement obtained by LawNewz.com the ABA said they are “concerned by significant portions of the immigration-related executive orders issued on January 25 and 27, 2017, regarding border security, immigration enforcement and terrorism,” and that the orders “jeopardize fundamental principles of justice, due process and the rule of law.”

Much of the criticism was leveled at the January 25 order dealing with new detention centers along the Mexican border and expedited deportation processes. The ABA said the order raises constitutional issues, because it allows for deportation without a hearing before an immigration judge. “[R]emoval decisions should be made only by impartial adjudicators, preferably immigration judges, following a formal hearing that conforms with accepted norms of due process,” they said, adding, “we owe due process to all, including those who face deportation.”

The ABA also had harsh words for the controversial order against refugees and immigration that was issued on January 27. In addition to saying the order itself raises “several constitutional issues,” they said the way it was done caused “panic” and “chaos.” They commended attorneys who have assisted detained immigrants at airports around the country.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/in-rare-statement-american-bar-association-says-trump-immigration-orders-jeopardize-justice/
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 20:06:16
January 31 2017 20:04 GMT
#134390
On February 01 2017 04:53 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 04:31 Logo wrote:
https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/826502684245184513

Is this Spicer being bad at his job, or an actual policy for the administration?


Didn't Trumps first raid just kill an 8yo US girl... (amongst other civilians, but we know that foreign civilians don't count)


That's a whole different problem.

Previously, under Obama, special exceptions were made and US citizens could legally be targeted for killing. This is different from an accidental death or shooting someone in a violent confrontation. It's basically picking a fight with someone with the intention of killing them under the claim that they pose an 'imminent threat' (which usually is justified by the fact they could/are planning an attack against the US).

Basically it's about whether or not the US is able to assassinate US citizens without due process and where the limits of that lie.

The killing of the 8yr old is tragic, but not related to the targeting of US citizens and is its own separate problem of rampant civilian casualties in US military operations as the operation was designed with other goals in mind (obtaining computer data). I mean it should probably be its own big legal issue, but it's not part of the US intentionally targeting US citizens.
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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
January 31 2017 20:04 GMT
#134391
So apparently the White House lied (surprise surprise) about the number of people affected by the travel ban. I figured that 109 number sounded low. A buddy of mine works at a casino on a Native American reservation, and four of his coworkers were Chaldeans (San Diego has a big Chaldean population). Apparently they went to a party in Tijuana and Customs won't let them back in (I guess they flew back to Iraq because they have family there). If I know of four people that few degrees removed from me, there's gotta be more than 109 in the whole country.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 20:30:41
January 31 2017 20:15 GMT
#134392
On February 01 2017 05:04 ChristianS wrote:
So apparently the White House lied (surprise surprise) about the number of people affected by the travel ban. I figured that 109 number sounded low. A buddy of mine works at a casino on a Native American reservation, and four of his coworkers were Chaldeans (San Diego has a big Chaldean population). Apparently they went to a party in Tijuana and Customs won't let them back in (I guess they flew back to Iraq because they have family there). If I know of four people that few degrees removed from me, there's gotta be more than 109 in the whole country.


As usual with numbers, it's all in the way you define "affected." Their number doesn't include people turned away before boarding a plane, for example.

There's a decent breakdown here of some different number options if you're interested (just ignore the headline, it's the most extreme number possible).

Also, for maximum hilarity, the Education nominee (or whoever answered her questions for her) may have been too lazy to cite or more than slightly reword quotes.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
January 31 2017 20:20 GMT
#134393
I still coudl'nt figure out the particulars on how the attorney general succession operated in this case as I mentioned yesterday, so I emailed the AG's press office asking for clarification, showing the relevant provisions of law I could find.
Once I hear back from them I'll tell y'all what they said.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 31 2017 20:29 GMT
#134394
CNN is saying that Gorsuch has been told to expect to be named for the SC pick
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 20:41:32
January 31 2017 20:33 GMT
#134395
In some quick-Trump-stance-reversal news, Medicare drug price negotiation is now likely dead.

On January 31st, Trump said:
I'll oppose anything that makes it harder for smaller, younger companies to take the risk of bringing their product to a vibrantly competitive market. That includes price-fixing by the biggest dog in the market, Medicare, which is what's happening. But we can increase competition and bidding wars, big time.

So what I want, we have to get lower prices, we have to get even better innovation and I want you to move your companies back into the United States. And I want you to manufacture in the United States. We're going to be lowering taxes, we're going to be getting rid of regulations that are unnecessary.


I assume "price-fixing by the biggest dog in the market" is the Medicare negotiation-it's the standard industry term for it, anyway. Damn shame, I thought his business sense might shine through over his ability to be easily persuaded with respect to things he doesn't much care about here.

Edit: A Gorsuch appointment might be interesting, he's not a fan of federal agencies interpreting the law which is a big part of what's allowing Trump to go hog-wild.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
January 31 2017 20:36 GMT
#134396
On February 01 2017 05:29 Nevuk wrote:
CNN is saying that Gorsuch has been told to expect to be named for the SC pick


what in the world is the point of both of them traveling to the WH. The runner up just shows up and he's basically told "sorry, not you" and then walks right out and leaves. Kind of messed up.
Question.?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 20:41:10
January 31 2017 20:40 GMT
#134397
On February 01 2017 05:36 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 05:29 Nevuk wrote:
CNN is saying that Gorsuch has been told to expect to be named for the SC pick


what in the world is the point of both of them traveling to the WH. The runner up just shows up and he's basically told "sorry, not you" and then walks right out and leaves. Kind of messed up.

I dunno. Maybe trump wants to keep a last minute change option open and hasn't completely made up his mind?
not that I consider that notably likely, just guessing.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 20:41:40
January 31 2017 20:41 GMT
#134398
This is a credible Twitter account of rogue WH staff. They called the Gorsuch nomination and the canceled Mexico meeting before media. Scary stuff.

LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 20:42:53
January 31 2017 20:42 GMT
#134399
On February 01 2017 05:29 Nevuk wrote:
CNN is saying that Gorsuch has been told to expect to be named for the SC pick

Looks like we have a Scalia Mk II to replace the original. Zero surprise.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 31 2017 20:43 GMT
#134400
On February 01 2017 05:36 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 05:29 Nevuk wrote:
CNN is saying that Gorsuch has been told to expect to be named for the SC pick


what in the world is the point of both of them traveling to the WH. The runner up just shows up and he's basically told "sorry, not you" and then walks right out and leaves. Kind of messed up.

It's likely a holdover for his love of optics and entertainment from the Apprentice. It's totally the type of thing you would do on a reality TV show.
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