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On January 27 2017 12:26 zlefin wrote: legal -> I've read quite a bit on the tpp, and that's an interesting article oyu add; however I find your claims about the electorate being ignored to be unfounded, and your concerns about the arbitration courts and other such things unfounded; it looks more like a diatribe put forth without an actual serious thoughtful understanding of the issues. I'm also concerned by your use of the term "vassal state" in describing canada.
plas -> dunno, haven't looked at a list of everything he's done so far. can't think of anything definite offhand, but I'd have to do a full review, and there might well be something inj there. in general, unobjectionable and widely supported actions tend to get far less press coverage, because noone cares ot read about them. so something good might have happened and not been heard of. just like the bipartisan work on dealing with the opioid problem got little attention.
Here's a list of executive actions at least. And a list from politico dated 25-th of January.
I love how there's an insults category, then I remember that this is legitimately our president now
His timeline is probably pretty reliable on this one, rumors have been brewing for a while so I think they really are working on this right now.
Gorsuch has the pedigree and the record, Hardiman has the recommendation of Trump's sister (who is on the same Court as Hardiman) and has a compelling backstory. However, his record is less fleshed out.
Because of that Hardiman would probably have an easier conformation, but maybe Trump should go for the harder one first. Word has it that they are saving a woman like Sykes for RBG's seat if she retires or dies during Trump's term.
He should go for Gorsuch, LOTS and LOTS of conservatives voted for Trump to get a solid Scalia-for-Scalia justice (as much as that's possible). Conservatives need someone with a solid a record as possible. This is one of those things he HAS to deliver on. That being said, anyone from his list of 21 is still technically keeping his world, and both of these men are on the list.
I think he'll pick Gorsuch, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Hardiman. Trump puts a lot of trust in family counsel.
So the workers in Mexico - people who are certainly not into drug dealing or emigrating to the US in order to sustain their families - will pay for the wall. Either with their jobs or with wage cuts.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
I think he just runs out of vocabulary, and as a result, he goes on and on about a topic because he can't adequately explain it.
Basically, he's one stupid motherfucker who's commander in chief of the USA. Watching it from the outside is equal parts funny, sad, and scary.
I remember seeing something where people did IQ tests of most previous presidents, and they were all very gifted people(even bush, as stupid as he may have sounded at times, is smarter than probably 90% of the people in any given university class). Trump unfortunately probably doesn't come close.
Regarding the wall, I think you should watch this guy as he brings up a very interesting point that hasn't been raised by anyone else to my knowledge.
He will probably be very irritating to you stoic guys here, but he does make a reasonable point.
TLDR: Mexico is in desparate need of revolution (which should be obvious to anyone). By allowing mass immigration of the lowest and most repressed class in Mexico, you are effectively destroying the backbone of the revolution, the massive numbers of poor people living in poverty, and stopping the build up necessary to cross the tipping point for people to rise up. This is also why Mexican governement is doing nothing about the exodus of its opressed people.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
Can you give us a comment on the situation in Sweden? You know, the elephant in the room noone is willing to bring up?
This is a terrifying interview... with how he speaks i wonder if anyone would notice if he slipped into dementia.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
I think he just runs out of vocabulary, and as a result, he goes on and on about a topic because he can't adequately explain it.
Basically, he's one stupid motherfucker who's commander in chief of the USA. Watching it from the outside is equal parts funny, sad, and scary.
I remember seeing something where people did IQ tests of most previous presidents, and they were all very gifted people(even bush, as stupid as he may have sounded at times, is smarter than probably 90% of the people in any given university class). Trump unfortunately probably doesn't come close.
U.S. President Donald Trump's administration has instructed the Environmental Protection Agency to remove the climate change page from its website, two agency employees told Reuters, the latest move by the newly minted leadership to erase ex-President Barack Obama's climate change initiatives.
My Finnish friend at work has very good English but he literally struggles to understand Donald sometimes. It's very amusing. It's like people who are academically and properly trained in English have never experienced a syntax so oddly simplistic and repetitive and it confuses the shit out of them. Have to just turn the brain off sometimes and let his words sink in I guess.
Yevgeniy Nikulin faces extradition requests from both countries amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the US presidential election
An alleged computer hacker being held in the Czech Republic is at the centre of an international legal tussle between the United States and Russia amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the recent US presidential election.
Yevgeniy Nikulin, 29, faces extradition requests from both countries after being detained by Czech police on an Interpol arrest warrant issued by US authorities.
Nikulin, a Russian citizen, was arrested in a restaurant in Prague on 5 October shortly after arriving in the city during a holiday with his girlfriend. Russian alleged hacker arrested in Prague over cyber-attacks in US Read more
A federal court in Oakland, California, followed up with an indictment charging him with offences relating to the hacking of computer networks belonging to LinkedIn, Dropbox and Formspring and formally requesting his extradition to the US.
He faces a maximum 30 years in prison and up to US$1m in fines if convicted on charges including computer intrusion, aggravated identity theft, conspiracy, damaging computers and trafficking in illegal access devices.
There is no acknowledged link between Nikulin’s alleged offences and the hacking of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, but his arrest came just three days before the Obama administration formally accused Russia of stealing emails from the Democratic National Committee and disclosing them through WikiLeaks. + Show Spoiler +
Formspring, one of the sites he allegedly hacked, was the platform used for sexting by Anthony Weiner, the former New York mayoral candidate and husband of Huma Abedin, Clinton’s closest aide. The discovery of emails linked to Clinton on Weiner’s laptop damaged her campaign in its final two weeks after FBI director James Comey revealed their existence.
Meanwhile, Russia has responded to the American extradition request against Nikulin by tabling one of its own, demanding that he be returned to face allegations dating back to 2009 that he hacked another person’s bank account and stole 111,000 roubles (£1,465).
“He was never formally accused at that time. I think the reason is that he was recruited [by the Russian security services],” said Ondrej Kundra, political editor with the Czech weekly magazine Respekt, which has reported that the Russian services offer alleged offenders immunity from prosecution in exchange for collaboration.
“There’s intense lobbying in this case. People from the US and Russian side are talking to the Czech authorities because both really want Nikulin in their countries.”
One theory is Nikulin – even if not personally involved in the election hacking – may know other hackers who were.
Fuelling speculation is the existence of sealed US court documents, tabled six days after the original indictment against Nikulin on 20 October but whose contents have not been revealed.
“A number of documents were filed under seal, which means you cannot talk about them,” a US justice department spokesman told the Guardian.
Adam Kopecky, Nikulin’s Czech lawyer, said his client denied both the US and Russian charges and suggested he had become a political pawn. “My client and myself think it’s a political affair,” Kopecky said.
“Given the international situation, when one superpower accuses a citizen of the other of hacking their computers and then the other superpower accuses the same citizen of another crime, it’s kind of strange.”
Nikulin has suffered health problems since his arrest, his lawyer said.
Kopecky lodged an official complaint after prison authorities put his client under high-level supervision that included monitoring his communications with the lawyer.
“He is unhappy about being detained for a long time in a foreign country and about the accusations against him. He wants to return to Russia – but as a free man,” Kopecky said.
Czech television has reported that FBI agents are to travel to Prague to question Nikulin in the presence of Czech authorities. An FBI spokesman refused to confirm that but said the bureau was “aware of the situation”.
The case is currently in the hands of Prague’s chief prosecutor, who is expected to issue a decision on the twin extradition requests at the end of this month or early in February, a spokeswoman for the city’s municipal court said.
Russia’s embassy in Prague declined to comment but cited a previous foreign ministry statement in which a spokeswoman compared the affair to other incidents and called it “another proof that the US law enforcement agencies are hunting for Russian citizens across the world”.
A 32-year-old Russian computer programmer named only as Lisov was arrested by Spanish police at Barcelona airport this month on another US arrest warrant. Police in Spain said he was suspected of leading a financial fraud network and having designed and used software to steal account details from banks and individuals.
Another Russian citizen, Roman Valerevich Seleznev, was convicted last year of 38 hacking-related charges by a US court after he was arrested and extradited from Guam in 2014. Russia said Seleznev’s arrest amounted to “kidnapping”.
hardly worth turning it into a pseudo cold war.
@the mexican revolution thing: is there anyone who believes people could stage successful revolutions this day n'age without some serious backing from factions(internal or external) who provide financial support/guns or put pressure on <current leadership>?. i can't see how peaceful protests would change anything; or grabbing your pitchfork/axe and go kill local boyars for that matter.
Yevgeniy Nikulin faces extradition requests from both countries amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the US presidential election
An alleged computer hacker being held in the Czech Republic is at the centre of an international legal tussle between the United States and Russia amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the recent US presidential election.
Yevgeniy Nikulin, 29, faces extradition requests from both countries after being detained by Czech police on an Interpol arrest warrant issued by US authorities.
Nikulin, a Russian citizen, was arrested in a restaurant in Prague on 5 October shortly after arriving in the city during a holiday with his girlfriend. Russian alleged hacker arrested in Prague over cyber-attacks in US Read more
A federal court in Oakland, California, followed up with an indictment charging him with offences relating to the hacking of computer networks belonging to LinkedIn, Dropbox and Formspring and formally requesting his extradition to the US.
He faces a maximum 30 years in prison and up to US$1m in fines if convicted on charges including computer intrusion, aggravated identity theft, conspiracy, damaging computers and trafficking in illegal access devices.
There is no acknowledged link between Nikulin’s alleged offences and the hacking of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, but his arrest came just three days before the Obama administration formally accused Russia of stealing emails from the Democratic National Committee and disclosing them through WikiLeaks. + Show Spoiler +
Formspring, one of the sites he allegedly hacked, was the platform used for sexting by Anthony Weiner, the former New York mayoral candidate and husband of Huma Abedin, Clinton’s closest aide. The discovery of emails linked to Clinton on Weiner’s laptop damaged her campaign in its final two weeks after FBI director James Comey revealed their existence.
Meanwhile, Russia has responded to the American extradition request against Nikulin by tabling one of its own, demanding that he be returned to face allegations dating back to 2009 that he hacked another person’s bank account and stole 111,000 roubles (£1,465).
“He was never formally accused at that time. I think the reason is that he was recruited [by the Russian security services],” said Ondrej Kundra, political editor with the Czech weekly magazine Respekt, which has reported that the Russian services offer alleged offenders immunity from prosecution in exchange for collaboration.
“There’s intense lobbying in this case. People from the US and Russian side are talking to the Czech authorities because both really want Nikulin in their countries.”
One theory is Nikulin – even if not personally involved in the election hacking – may know other hackers who were.
Fuelling speculation is the existence of sealed US court documents, tabled six days after the original indictment against Nikulin on 20 October but whose contents have not been revealed.
“A number of documents were filed under seal, which means you cannot talk about them,” a US justice department spokesman told the Guardian.
Adam Kopecky, Nikulin’s Czech lawyer, said his client denied both the US and Russian charges and suggested he had become a political pawn. “My client and myself think it’s a political affair,” Kopecky said.
“Given the international situation, when one superpower accuses a citizen of the other of hacking their computers and then the other superpower accuses the same citizen of another crime, it’s kind of strange.”
Nikulin has suffered health problems since his arrest, his lawyer said.
Kopecky lodged an official complaint after prison authorities put his client under high-level supervision that included monitoring his communications with the lawyer.
“He is unhappy about being detained for a long time in a foreign country and about the accusations against him. He wants to return to Russia – but as a free man,” Kopecky said.
Czech television has reported that FBI agents are to travel to Prague to question Nikulin in the presence of Czech authorities. An FBI spokesman refused to confirm that but said the bureau was “aware of the situation”.
The case is currently in the hands of Prague’s chief prosecutor, who is expected to issue a decision on the twin extradition requests at the end of this month or early in February, a spokeswoman for the city’s municipal court said.
Russia’s embassy in Prague declined to comment but cited a previous foreign ministry statement in which a spokeswoman compared the affair to other incidents and called it “another proof that the US law enforcement agencies are hunting for Russian citizens across the world”.
A 32-year-old Russian computer programmer named only as Lisov was arrested by Spanish police at Barcelona airport this month on another US arrest warrant. Police in Spain said he was suspected of leading a financial fraud network and having designed and used software to steal account details from banks and individuals.
Another Russian citizen, Roman Valerevich Seleznev, was convicted last year of 38 hacking-related charges by a US court after he was arrested and extradited from Guam in 2014. Russia said Seleznev’s arrest amounted to “kidnapping”.
hardly worth turning it into a pseudo cold war.
@the mexican revolution thing: is there anyone who believes people could stage successful revolutions this day n'age without some serious backing from factions(internal or external) who provide financial support/guns or put pressure on <current leadership>?. i can't see how peaceful protests would change anything; or grabbing your pitchfork/axe and go kill local boyars for that matter.
Couple of modern counter examples: Arab spring in Tunisia and Egypt were revolutions without outside influence (which only came later)
Venezuela? They are completely ungovernable because of what could be called a revolution. Nothing military about it yet (military is loyal to Maduro), but there are regular protests all over the country, and the parliament and president are waging a political war on each other.
Or for that matter, Brazil. Brazil had what amounts to a coup d'etat just last year. It was entirely civilian, but the government changed hands between the left and the right. Partially due to Dilma's political blundering, partially due to widespread unhappiness over the economy (and lava jato) and partially due to underhanded semi-legal bullshit pulled by the right.
Yevgeniy Nikulin faces extradition requests from both countries amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the US presidential election
An alleged computer hacker being held in the Czech Republic is at the centre of an international legal tussle between the United States and Russia amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the recent US presidential election.
Yevgeniy Nikulin, 29, faces extradition requests from both countries after being detained by Czech police on an Interpol arrest warrant issued by US authorities.
Nikulin, a Russian citizen, was arrested in a restaurant in Prague on 5 October shortly after arriving in the city during a holiday with his girlfriend. Russian alleged hacker arrested in Prague over cyber-attacks in US Read more
A federal court in Oakland, California, followed up with an indictment charging him with offences relating to the hacking of computer networks belonging to LinkedIn, Dropbox and Formspring and formally requesting his extradition to the US.
He faces a maximum 30 years in prison and up to US$1m in fines if convicted on charges including computer intrusion, aggravated identity theft, conspiracy, damaging computers and trafficking in illegal access devices.
There is no acknowledged link between Nikulin’s alleged offences and the hacking of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, but his arrest came just three days before the Obama administration formally accused Russia of stealing emails from the Democratic National Committee and disclosing them through WikiLeaks. + Show Spoiler +
Formspring, one of the sites he allegedly hacked, was the platform used for sexting by Anthony Weiner, the former New York mayoral candidate and husband of Huma Abedin, Clinton’s closest aide. The discovery of emails linked to Clinton on Weiner’s laptop damaged her campaign in its final two weeks after FBI director James Comey revealed their existence.
Meanwhile, Russia has responded to the American extradition request against Nikulin by tabling one of its own, demanding that he be returned to face allegations dating back to 2009 that he hacked another person’s bank account and stole 111,000 roubles (£1,465).
“He was never formally accused at that time. I think the reason is that he was recruited [by the Russian security services],” said Ondrej Kundra, political editor with the Czech weekly magazine Respekt, which has reported that the Russian services offer alleged offenders immunity from prosecution in exchange for collaboration.
“There’s intense lobbying in this case. People from the US and Russian side are talking to the Czech authorities because both really want Nikulin in their countries.”
One theory is Nikulin – even if not personally involved in the election hacking – may know other hackers who were.
Fuelling speculation is the existence of sealed US court documents, tabled six days after the original indictment against Nikulin on 20 October but whose contents have not been revealed.
“A number of documents were filed under seal, which means you cannot talk about them,” a US justice department spokesman told the Guardian.
Adam Kopecky, Nikulin’s Czech lawyer, said his client denied both the US and Russian charges and suggested he had become a political pawn. “My client and myself think it’s a political affair,” Kopecky said.
“Given the international situation, when one superpower accuses a citizen of the other of hacking their computers and then the other superpower accuses the same citizen of another crime, it’s kind of strange.”
Nikulin has suffered health problems since his arrest, his lawyer said.
Kopecky lodged an official complaint after prison authorities put his client under high-level supervision that included monitoring his communications with the lawyer.
“He is unhappy about being detained for a long time in a foreign country and about the accusations against him. He wants to return to Russia – but as a free man,” Kopecky said.
Czech television has reported that FBI agents are to travel to Prague to question Nikulin in the presence of Czech authorities. An FBI spokesman refused to confirm that but said the bureau was “aware of the situation”.
The case is currently in the hands of Prague’s chief prosecutor, who is expected to issue a decision on the twin extradition requests at the end of this month or early in February, a spokeswoman for the city’s municipal court said.
Russia’s embassy in Prague declined to comment but cited a previous foreign ministry statement in which a spokeswoman compared the affair to other incidents and called it “another proof that the US law enforcement agencies are hunting for Russian citizens across the world”.
A 32-year-old Russian computer programmer named only as Lisov was arrested by Spanish police at Barcelona airport this month on another US arrest warrant. Police in Spain said he was suspected of leading a financial fraud network and having designed and used software to steal account details from banks and individuals.
Another Russian citizen, Roman Valerevich Seleznev, was convicted last year of 38 hacking-related charges by a US court after he was arrested and extradited from Guam in 2014. Russia said Seleznev’s arrest amounted to “kidnapping”.
hardly worth turning it into a pseudo cold war.
@the mexican revolution thing: is there anyone who believes people could stage successful revolutions this day n'age without some serious backing from factions(internal or external) who provide financial support/guns or put pressure on <current leadership>?. i can't see how peaceful protests would change anything; or grabbing your pitchfork/axe and go kill local boyars for that matter.
Considering you are from Romania, I immediatelly thought of Ceausescu. Obviusly military played a huge part there so to answer your question, I do not think the public would be able to pull it off by themselves without the white hats either in millitary, law enforcement or secret services. If it is an external force then I wouldnt call it a revolution.
So, again, considering you are from Romania, is this not what happened in Romania and do you not imagine the same could happen in Mexico?
This is a terrifying interview... with how he speaks i wonder if anyone would notice if he slipped into dementia.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
Can you give us a comment on the situation in Sweden? You know, the elephant in the room noone is willing to bring up?
In a US thread? Don't see the relevance but since I haven't lived in sweden for close to 7 years my answer will be sufficiently brief: no clue how bad it is or isn't. Hard to at a glance find sources that aren't either "everything is fine" or "WE ARE BECOMING A CALIPHATE!!!".
I'll say that the amount of beggars that exist now is somewhat jarring everytime I come back home.
This is a terrifying interview... with how he speaks i wonder if anyone would notice if he slipped into dementia.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
I think he just runs out of vocabulary, and as a result, he goes on and on about a topic because he can't adequately explain it.
Basically, he's one stupid motherfucker who's commander in chief of the USA. Watching it from the outside is equal parts funny, sad, and scary.
I remember seeing something where people did IQ tests of most previous presidents, and they were all very gifted people(even bush, as stupid as he may have sounded at times, is smarter than probably 90% of the people in any given university class). Trump unfortunately probably doesn't come close.
The mindless bashing here is stagering.
Did you read that interview though? It is literally the worst I've ever heard from him in terms of being incoherent.
I'm not ignoring the possibility that it's on purpose because he doesn't want to answer but it's a really sad sight to behold either way.
This is a terrifying interview... with how he speaks i wonder if anyone would notice if he slipped into dementia.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
I think he just runs out of vocabulary, and as a result, he goes on and on about a topic because he can't adequately explain it.
Basically, he's one stupid motherfucker who's commander in chief of the USA. Watching it from the outside is equal parts funny, sad, and scary.
I remember seeing something where people did IQ tests of most previous presidents, and they were all very gifted people(even bush, as stupid as he may have sounded at times, is smarter than probably 90% of the people in any given university class). Trump unfortunately probably doesn't come close.
The mindless bashing here is stagering.
Did you read that interview though? It is literally the worst I've ever heard from him in terms of being incoherent.
I'm not ignoring the possibility that it's on purpose because he doesn't want to answer but it's a really sad sight to behold either way.
Yeah, I watched it. It was very crude. Still tho, going after his IQ is a low blow and reeks of indiscriminate and automated bashing of Trump regardless of his action and based primarilly on his image, which I might add, is always a sign of a low IQ individual. Media will do that to you tho if you absorb their information without a big reserve.
EDIT: Obviously I am not accusing you of that, just to be clear.
This is a terrifying interview... with how he speaks i wonder if anyone would notice if he slipped into dementia.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
Can you give us a comment on the situation in Sweden? You know, the elephant in the room noone is willing to bring up?
In a US thread? Don't see the relevance but since I haven't lived in sweden for close to 7 years my answer will be sufficiently brief: no clue how bad it is or isn't. Hard to at a glance find sources that aren't either "everything is fine" or "WE ARE BECOMING A CALIPHATE!!!".
I'll say that the amount of beggars that exist now is somewhat jarring everytime I come back home.
I agree this wasn't the place to ask about Sweden, I was just slightly anoyed how this place became a parott of the MSM sensationalist headlines, refusing to adress the other side of the medal without ridicule, where for me the biggest surprise of this election was how much we are actually being lied by the media and how corrupt the system is. We will all just ignore that part here and continue to link those articles as reliable sources.
This is a terrifying interview... with how he speaks i wonder if anyone would notice if he slipped into dementia.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
Can you give us a comment on the situation in Sweden? You know, the elephant in the room noone is willing to bring up?
OK since I live in Sweden I guess I can answer it for you. It is fine for the most part. The biggest rush of immigrants was stopped so now we are at normal levels. Now we just have the same issue as the US with a bunch of populists trying to fool the uneducated people into thinking there is an acctually crisis in our country (there isn't).
Anyway, to get back on topic, since this is an US politics thread. The silencing of scientist have me worried alot, I do hope this is not a permanent thing or else things are really going in the wrong direction.
This is a terrifying interview... with how he speaks i wonder if anyone would notice if he slipped into dementia.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: It has periodically hit me. And it is a tremendous magnitude. And where you really see it is when you're talking to the generals about problems in the world. And we do have problems in the world. Big problems. The bigness also hits because the — the size of it. The size.
Can you give us a comment on the situation in Sweden? You know, the elephant in the room noone is willing to bring up?
OK since I live in Sweden I guess I can answer it for you. It is fine for the most part. The biggest rush of immigrants was stopped so now we are at normal levels. Now we just have the same issue as the US with a bunch of populists trying to fool the uneducated people into thinking there is an acctually crisis in our country (there isn't).
Anyway, to get back on topic, since this is an US politics thread. The silencing of scientist have me worried alot, I do hope this is not a permanent thing or else things are really going in the wrong direction.
Thank you! You see, this is all i want. An OBJECTIVE look into the issue. This is why I am so frustrated, MSM portrays everything as it is all rainbows and ponies over there (downright lying and cover uping what is going on) while on the other hand the alternative sources claim it is hell on earth. Why can't we have a reasonable discussion on media about these things? I guess they are affraid that by bringing up those issues it will cause a rise in nationalistic sentimnets in people but I am sure that by ignoring the issue completelly, they are doing exactly that. People are not unreasonable as they think and it is time they stop treating us as children. If there is a issue, or people are worried there might be an issue, bring it up, we can handle it and discuss it. I also believe this is a major part of the story why Trump got elected.
Yevgeniy Nikulin faces extradition requests from both countries amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the US presidential election
An alleged computer hacker being held in the Czech Republic is at the centre of an international legal tussle between the United States and Russia amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the recent US presidential election.
Yevgeniy Nikulin, 29, faces extradition requests from both countries after being detained by Czech police on an Interpol arrest warrant issued by US authorities.
Nikulin, a Russian citizen, was arrested in a restaurant in Prague on 5 October shortly after arriving in the city during a holiday with his girlfriend. Russian alleged hacker arrested in Prague over cyber-attacks in US Read more
A federal court in Oakland, California, followed up with an indictment charging him with offences relating to the hacking of computer networks belonging to LinkedIn, Dropbox and Formspring and formally requesting his extradition to the US.
He faces a maximum 30 years in prison and up to US$1m in fines if convicted on charges including computer intrusion, aggravated identity theft, conspiracy, damaging computers and trafficking in illegal access devices.
There is no acknowledged link between Nikulin’s alleged offences and the hacking of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, but his arrest came just three days before the Obama administration formally accused Russia of stealing emails from the Democratic National Committee and disclosing them through WikiLeaks. + Show Spoiler +
Formspring, one of the sites he allegedly hacked, was the platform used for sexting by Anthony Weiner, the former New York mayoral candidate and husband of Huma Abedin, Clinton’s closest aide. The discovery of emails linked to Clinton on Weiner’s laptop damaged her campaign in its final two weeks after FBI director James Comey revealed their existence.
Meanwhile, Russia has responded to the American extradition request against Nikulin by tabling one of its own, demanding that he be returned to face allegations dating back to 2009 that he hacked another person’s bank account and stole 111,000 roubles (£1,465).
“He was never formally accused at that time. I think the reason is that he was recruited [by the Russian security services],” said Ondrej Kundra, political editor with the Czech weekly magazine Respekt, which has reported that the Russian services offer alleged offenders immunity from prosecution in exchange for collaboration.
“There’s intense lobbying in this case. People from the US and Russian side are talking to the Czech authorities because both really want Nikulin in their countries.”
One theory is Nikulin – even if not personally involved in the election hacking – may know other hackers who were.
Fuelling speculation is the existence of sealed US court documents, tabled six days after the original indictment against Nikulin on 20 October but whose contents have not been revealed.
“A number of documents were filed under seal, which means you cannot talk about them,” a US justice department spokesman told the Guardian.
Adam Kopecky, Nikulin’s Czech lawyer, said his client denied both the US and Russian charges and suggested he had become a political pawn. “My client and myself think it’s a political affair,” Kopecky said.
“Given the international situation, when one superpower accuses a citizen of the other of hacking their computers and then the other superpower accuses the same citizen of another crime, it’s kind of strange.”
Nikulin has suffered health problems since his arrest, his lawyer said.
Kopecky lodged an official complaint after prison authorities put his client under high-level supervision that included monitoring his communications with the lawyer.
“He is unhappy about being detained for a long time in a foreign country and about the accusations against him. He wants to return to Russia – but as a free man,” Kopecky said.
Czech television has reported that FBI agents are to travel to Prague to question Nikulin in the presence of Czech authorities. An FBI spokesman refused to confirm that but said the bureau was “aware of the situation”.
The case is currently in the hands of Prague’s chief prosecutor, who is expected to issue a decision on the twin extradition requests at the end of this month or early in February, a spokeswoman for the city’s municipal court said.
Russia’s embassy in Prague declined to comment but cited a previous foreign ministry statement in which a spokeswoman compared the affair to other incidents and called it “another proof that the US law enforcement agencies are hunting for Russian citizens across the world”.
A 32-year-old Russian computer programmer named only as Lisov was arrested by Spanish police at Barcelona airport this month on another US arrest warrant. Police in Spain said he was suspected of leading a financial fraud network and having designed and used software to steal account details from banks and individuals.
Another Russian citizen, Roman Valerevich Seleznev, was convicted last year of 38 hacking-related charges by a US court after he was arrested and extradited from Guam in 2014. Russia said Seleznev’s arrest amounted to “kidnapping”.
hardly worth turning it into a pseudo cold war.
@the mexican revolution thing: is there anyone who believes people could stage successful revolutions this day n'age without some serious backing from factions(internal or external) who provide financial support/guns or put pressure on <current leadership>?. i can't see how peaceful protests would change anything; or grabbing your pitchfork/axe and go kill local boyars for that matter.
Considering you are from Romania, I immediatelly thought of Ceausescu. Obviusly military played a huge part there so to answer your question, I do not think the public would be able to pull it off by themselves without the white hats either in millitary, law enforcement or secret services. If it is an external force then I wouldnt call it a revolution.
So, again, considering you are from Romania, is this not what happened in Romania and do you not imagine the same could happen in Mexico?
Over a thousand people died in Romania in December 1989. In Checkmate: Strategy of a Revolution, filmmaker Susanne Brandstätter shows how the Romanian revolution was strictly a managed operation, controlled from the outside – just as it was in the overthrow of democratically elected Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran in 1953. The strategies used ranged from anti-Ceaucescu propaganda to the organized training of civilians as armed revolutionaries. While Mossadegh was overthrown because he nationalised Iranian oil and sent the British packing, Ceaucescu was eliminated because he thwarted the unity of Europe and the definitive collapse of communism. By understanding what happened in Romania, the same strategy can easily be seen in Ukraine as well. ... Dominique Fonvielle, former secret agent with the French secret service, the DGSE (La Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure) spoke candidly in the documentary about the role of Western intelligence operatives in destabilizing the Romanian population. After the CIA-led overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran, which was a first for them, they developed a blueprint to topple other governments. The events that took place in Romania in 1989 and in Ukraine recently, have all the markings of this CIA blueprint. ... Robert Baer: For the covert operations you can train people. The special forces can train foreigners. The CIA can train them to use weapons as it was done in Cuba or in other places. All this paramilitary stuff is just a training.
Was this possible back then in Romania?
Dominique Fonvielle: Yes. It was carried out by the countries bordering Romania, from Hungary. We’ve mentioned the training camps in Hungary and Germany, sure, but at the time of the action, the people must be planted on site and you probably realise that you can’t smuggle in hundreds of people, but maybe a dozen.
One will force the current regime to react in a brutal manner so that the opposition would show itself and the masses start moving, and in this very moment the neighbouring country comes to assist them on humanitarian or political grounds. Then these allies make sure to restore the stability. They guarantee security and then finally allow the new government to take over the power with a head of state who is respected and regarded by the opposition as fit for the task.
Yevgeniy Nikulin faces extradition requests from both countries amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the US presidential election
An alleged computer hacker being held in the Czech Republic is at the centre of an international legal tussle between the United States and Russia amid lingering disquiet over Moscow’s alleged interference in the recent US presidential election.
Yevgeniy Nikulin, 29, faces extradition requests from both countries after being detained by Czech police on an Interpol arrest warrant issued by US authorities.
Nikulin, a Russian citizen, was arrested in a restaurant in Prague on 5 October shortly after arriving in the city during a holiday with his girlfriend. Russian alleged hacker arrested in Prague over cyber-attacks in US Read more
A federal court in Oakland, California, followed up with an indictment charging him with offences relating to the hacking of computer networks belonging to LinkedIn, Dropbox and Formspring and formally requesting his extradition to the US.
He faces a maximum 30 years in prison and up to US$1m in fines if convicted on charges including computer intrusion, aggravated identity theft, conspiracy, damaging computers and trafficking in illegal access devices.
There is no acknowledged link between Nikulin’s alleged offences and the hacking of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, but his arrest came just three days before the Obama administration formally accused Russia of stealing emails from the Democratic National Committee and disclosing them through WikiLeaks. + Show Spoiler +
Formspring, one of the sites he allegedly hacked, was the platform used for sexting by Anthony Weiner, the former New York mayoral candidate and husband of Huma Abedin, Clinton’s closest aide. The discovery of emails linked to Clinton on Weiner’s laptop damaged her campaign in its final two weeks after FBI director James Comey revealed their existence.
Meanwhile, Russia has responded to the American extradition request against Nikulin by tabling one of its own, demanding that he be returned to face allegations dating back to 2009 that he hacked another person’s bank account and stole 111,000 roubles (£1,465).
“He was never formally accused at that time. I think the reason is that he was recruited [by the Russian security services],” said Ondrej Kundra, political editor with the Czech weekly magazine Respekt, which has reported that the Russian services offer alleged offenders immunity from prosecution in exchange for collaboration.
“There’s intense lobbying in this case. People from the US and Russian side are talking to the Czech authorities because both really want Nikulin in their countries.”
One theory is Nikulin – even if not personally involved in the election hacking – may know other hackers who were.
Fuelling speculation is the existence of sealed US court documents, tabled six days after the original indictment against Nikulin on 20 October but whose contents have not been revealed.
“A number of documents were filed under seal, which means you cannot talk about them,” a US justice department spokesman told the Guardian.
Adam Kopecky, Nikulin’s Czech lawyer, said his client denied both the US and Russian charges and suggested he had become a political pawn. “My client and myself think it’s a political affair,” Kopecky said.
“Given the international situation, when one superpower accuses a citizen of the other of hacking their computers and then the other superpower accuses the same citizen of another crime, it’s kind of strange.”
Nikulin has suffered health problems since his arrest, his lawyer said.
Kopecky lodged an official complaint after prison authorities put his client under high-level supervision that included monitoring his communications with the lawyer.
“He is unhappy about being detained for a long time in a foreign country and about the accusations against him. He wants to return to Russia – but as a free man,” Kopecky said.
Czech television has reported that FBI agents are to travel to Prague to question Nikulin in the presence of Czech authorities. An FBI spokesman refused to confirm that but said the bureau was “aware of the situation”.
The case is currently in the hands of Prague’s chief prosecutor, who is expected to issue a decision on the twin extradition requests at the end of this month or early in February, a spokeswoman for the city’s municipal court said.
Russia’s embassy in Prague declined to comment but cited a previous foreign ministry statement in which a spokeswoman compared the affair to other incidents and called it “another proof that the US law enforcement agencies are hunting for Russian citizens across the world”.
A 32-year-old Russian computer programmer named only as Lisov was arrested by Spanish police at Barcelona airport this month on another US arrest warrant. Police in Spain said he was suspected of leading a financial fraud network and having designed and used software to steal account details from banks and individuals.
Another Russian citizen, Roman Valerevich Seleznev, was convicted last year of 38 hacking-related charges by a US court after he was arrested and extradited from Guam in 2014. Russia said Seleznev’s arrest amounted to “kidnapping”.
hardly worth turning it into a pseudo cold war.
@the mexican revolution thing: is there anyone who believes people could stage successful revolutions this day n'age without some serious backing from factions(internal or external) who provide financial support/guns or put pressure on <current leadership>?. i can't see how peaceful protests would change anything; or grabbing your pitchfork/axe and go kill local boyars for that matter.
Considering you are from Romania, I immediatelly thought of Ceausescu. Obviusly military played a huge part there so to answer your question, I do not think the public would be able to pull it off by themselves without the white hats either in millitary, law enforcement or secret services. If it is an external force then I wouldnt call it a revolution.
So, again, considering you are from Romania, is this not what happened in Romania and do you not imagine the same could happen in Mexico?
Over a thousand people died in Romania in December 1989. In Checkmate: Strategy of a Revolution, filmmaker Susanne Brandstätter shows how the Romanian revolution was strictly a managed operation, controlled from the outside – just as it was in the overthrow of democratically elected Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran in 1953. The strategies used ranged from anti-Ceaucescu propaganda to the organized training of civilians as armed revolutionaries. While Mossadegh was overthrown because he nationalised Iranian oil and sent the British packing, Ceaucescu was eliminated because he thwarted the unity of Europe and the definitive collapse of communism. By understanding what happened in Romania, the same strategy can easily be seen in Ukraine as well. ... Dominique Fonvielle, former secret agent with the French secret service, the DGSE (La Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure) spoke candidly in the documentary about the role of Western intelligence operatives in destabilizing the Romanian population. After the CIA-led overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran, which was a first for them, they developed a blueprint to topple other governments. The events that took place in Romania in 1989 and in Ukraine recently, have all the markings of this CIA blueprint. ... Robert Baer: For the covert operations you can train people. The special forces can train foreigners. The CIA can train them to use weapons as it was done in Cuba or in other places. All this paramilitary stuff is just a training.
Was this possible back then in Romania?
Dominique Fonvielle: Yes. It was carried out by the countries bordering Romania, from Hungary. We’ve mentioned the training camps in Hungary and Germany, sure, but at the time of the action, the people must be planted on site and you probably realise that you can’t smuggle in hundreds of people, but maybe a dozen.
One will force the current regime to react in a brutal manner so that the opposition would show itself and the masses start moving, and in this very moment the neighbouring country comes to assist them on humanitarian or political grounds. Then these allies make sure to restore the stability. They guarantee security and then finally allow the new government to take over the power with a head of state who is respected and regarded by the opposition as fit for the task.
So its bassically what happened in Yugoslavia aswell. CIA had their fingers all over that.
Ok so Romania is a poor example of what could and should happen in Mexico, but I am sure it is a fertile ground for a spontaneous revolution if Mexicans aren't able to "refuge" to other countries.
EPT
