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JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
November 24 2013 02:10 GMT
#12961
On November 24 2013 10:53 sam!zdat wrote:
i can't believe you guys are still talking about this

can we change the subject? here: http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/Stock-market-gains-fuel-speculation-about-bubble-5006443.php

thesis: everything is fine, the recovery is underway and the job market will pick up any moment now. because the busyness cycle

antithesis: this is the final crisis of the capitalist system. we have nothing to lose but our chains. time to get the red flags out of storage

discuss

Sorry, I have a stubborn side

Can I choose "other"? The slower than we'd like but thankfully we're not Europe recovery continues.

If I can't choose other, put me in the thesis camp.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2013 02:14 GMT
#12962
Iranian FM Mohammad Javad Zarif confirms nuclear deal has been reached
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
November 24 2013 02:15 GMT
#12963
oh good. i'll stop worrying then. it's just a matter of time until everything gets better. no crashes incoming. you can quote me on that.
shikata ga nai
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
November 24 2013 02:24 GMT
#12964
On November 24 2013 10:53 sam!zdat wrote:
i can't believe you guys are still talking about this

can we change the subject? here: http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/Stock-market-gains-fuel-speculation-about-bubble-5006443.php

thesis: everything is fine, the recovery is underway and the job market will pick up any moment now. because the busyness cycle

antithesis: this is the final crisis of the capitalist system. we have nothing to lose but our chains. time to get the red flags out of storage

discuss

The ship will sink but I'll still try to grab the wheel before I prepare for impact. Then comes the search for useful debris.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2013 02:27 GMT
#12965
What...

#BREAKING Iran enrichment is recognized. Iran oil sanctions will be stopped. Iran can sell oil at the same level. Oil revenues released
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
November 24 2013 02:29 GMT
#12966
ha suck it israel
shikata ga nai
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 24 2013 02:36 GMT
#12967
Obama is so awesome at foreign policy. What exactly did Iran give up in this deal?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2013 02:37 GMT
#12968
BREAKING: @BarackObama to deliver statement on #Iran at 1015pm ET
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
November 24 2013 02:38 GMT
#12969
On November 24 2013 11:15 sam!zdat wrote:
oh good. i'll stop worrying then. it's just a matter of time until everything gets better. no crashes incoming. you can quote me on that.

Well, I wouldn't declare good times and throw caution to the wind. Europe may have more sovereign defaults and that won't be fun. I don't see any big danger sings for an economic / financial crash in the US though.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 24 2013 02:39 GMT
#12970
So, what's the over/under on how long it takes the Israelis to bomb Iran?
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 24 2013 02:45 GMT
#12971
On November 24 2013 11:39 xDaunt wrote:
So, what's the over/under on how long it takes the Israelis to bomb Iran?

Ill take any bet against any bombing. If Israel thought it could launch a successful strike they would have already, thats why Natanyahu went full court press in the States the last two years to get a US led strike instead. I think they just continue what they've been doing before, assassinating individual scientists and hacking computers.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
November 24 2013 02:48 GMT
#12972
On November 24 2013 11:45 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 11:39 xDaunt wrote:
So, what's the over/under on how long it takes the Israelis to bomb Iran?

Ill take any bet against any bombing. If Israel thought it could launch a successful strike they would have already, thats why Natanyahu went full court press in the States the last two years to get a US led strike instead. I think they just continue what they've been doing before, assassinating individual scientists and hacking computers.


Pretty much. It's not like Israel really cares about its image anyway, and as such I can only interpret their lobbying for the U.S. to strike instead indicates that they really don't have the ability to do so, at least, not without a considerable amount of risk.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
jacevedo
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
31 Posts
November 24 2013 02:49 GMT
#12973
On November 24 2013 10:53 sam!zdat wrote:
i can't believe you guys are still talking about this

can we change the subject? here: http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/Stock-market-gains-fuel-speculation-about-bubble-5006443.php

thesis: everything is fine, the recovery is underway and the job market will pick up any moment now. because the busyness cycle

antithesis: this is the final crisis of the capitalist system. we have nothing to lose but our chains. time to get the red flags out of storage

discuss

Thesis: This cycle has nothing to do with the capitalist system. A bubble has been manufactured by the Federal Reserve and Congress to rush us out of the previous bubble recession, which the Federal Reserve and Congress also manufactured to rush us out of the 2001 recession...
"Freedom is overrated anyway." -Kwark
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 24 2013 02:51 GMT
#12974
On November 24 2013 11:49 jacevedo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 10:53 sam!zdat wrote:
i can't believe you guys are still talking about this

can we change the subject? here: http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/Stock-market-gains-fuel-speculation-about-bubble-5006443.php

thesis: everything is fine, the recovery is underway and the job market will pick up any moment now. because the busyness cycle

antithesis: this is the final crisis of the capitalist system. we have nothing to lose but our chains. time to get the red flags out of storage

discuss

Thesis: This cycle has nothing to do with the capitalist system. A bubble has been manufactured by the Federal Reserve and Congress to rush us out of the previous bubble recession, which the Federal Reserve and Congress also manufactured to rush us out of the 2001 recession...

Krugman and Summers have been writing about this recently. That starting since the mid 80s the US has entered into a 'secular stagnation' where the natural state of the economy is a mild recession and that the only way to achieve 'full employment' is a series of bubbles.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 02:54:23
November 24 2013 02:52 GMT
#12975
On November 24 2013 11:51 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 11:49 jacevedo wrote:
On November 24 2013 10:53 sam!zdat wrote:
i can't believe you guys are still talking about this

can we change the subject? here: http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/Stock-market-gains-fuel-speculation-about-bubble-5006443.php

thesis: everything is fine, the recovery is underway and the job market will pick up any moment now. because the busyness cycle

antithesis: this is the final crisis of the capitalist system. we have nothing to lose but our chains. time to get the red flags out of storage

discuss

Thesis: This cycle has nothing to do with the capitalist system. A bubble has been manufactured by the Federal Reserve and Congress to rush us out of the previous bubble recession, which the Federal Reserve and Congress also manufactured to rush us out of the 2001 recession...

Krugman and Summers have been writing about this recently. That starting since the mid 80s the US has entered into a 'secular stagnation' where the natural state of the economy is a mild recession and that the only way to achieve 'full employment' is a series of bubbles.


yessir. yessir. that's what postmodernity is ABOUT
nice of them to finally realize.
economists need to read more lit theory OBVIOUSLY

do you have a source. is it like a blog or smth lame like that
shikata ga nai
DeltaX
Profile Joined August 2011
United States287 Posts
November 24 2013 02:55 GMT
#12976
On November 24 2013 11:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What...

Show nested quote +
#BREAKING Iran enrichment is recognized. Iran oil sanctions will be stopped. Iran can sell oil at the same level. Oil revenues released


This feels like a bit of a stretch. This is just suppose to be an initial deal from what I thought was happening. Some kind of freeze or deal on 20% uranium and setting up inspections in exchange for release of cash reserves. Then they would work on the rest of the sanctions and set specific limits on all enrichment going forward. I don't think that the the oil sanctions would be removed right now short of total surrender of Iran's entire enrichment ability.

What they likely came up with was some initial deal, plus a path forward where if Iran does X,Y,Z, then in 6 months to a year, the oil and banking sanctions can be removed.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 24 2013 02:56 GMT
#12977
On November 24 2013 11:52 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 11:51 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 24 2013 11:49 jacevedo wrote:
On November 24 2013 10:53 sam!zdat wrote:
i can't believe you guys are still talking about this

can we change the subject? here: http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/Stock-market-gains-fuel-speculation-about-bubble-5006443.php

thesis: everything is fine, the recovery is underway and the job market will pick up any moment now. because the busyness cycle

antithesis: this is the final crisis of the capitalist system. we have nothing to lose but our chains. time to get the red flags out of storage

discuss

Thesis: This cycle has nothing to do with the capitalist system. A bubble has been manufactured by the Federal Reserve and Congress to rush us out of the previous bubble recession, which the Federal Reserve and Congress also manufactured to rush us out of the 2001 recession...

Krugman and Summers have been writing about this recently. That starting since the mid 80s the US has entered into a 'secular stagnation' where the natural state of the economy is a mild recession and that the only way to achieve 'full employment' is a series of bubbles.


yessir. yessir. that's what postmodernity is ABOUT
nice of them to finally realize.
economists need to read more lit theory OBVIOUSLY

do you have a source. is it like a blog or smth lame like that

Summers: http://equitablegrowth.org/2013/11/16/759/this-mornings-must-watch-larry-summers-on-the-danger-of-a-japan-like-generation-of-secular-stagnation-here-in-the-north-atlantic
Krugman:
Some responses: http://blogs.ft.com/gavyndavies/2013/11/17/the-implications-of-secular-stagnation/
http://crookedtimber.org/2013/11/21/if-this-is-secular-stagnation-i-want-my-old-job-back/
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2013 02:57 GMT
#12978
Iran will get access to $4.2 billion as part deal in exchange for halting its nuclear program – report
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 24 2013 02:57 GMT
#12979
On November 24 2013 11:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Iran will get access to $4.2 billion as part deal in exchange for halting its nuclear program – report

Just to be clear. Thats not Iran getting 4.2 billion dollars of Ameirca's money, its unfreezing of Iran's assets abroad.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2013 02:59 GMT
#12980
"In return for the initial agreement, the US has agreed to provide $6 billion to $7 billion in sanctions relief, American officials said."
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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