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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 30 2016 01:30 GMT
#126801
On November 30 2016 10:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
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On November 30 2016 09:52 LegalLord wrote:
If I had to pick the most substantial weakness of the US military though, it would be how bad it is at making war on a reasonable budget. Every single weapon the US has is obscenely overpriced, and it wouldn't be hard to push the costs way up with some rather cheap shit. Arm peasant nations with relatively cheap anti-ship missiles, and now carriers are in a ton of danger and need to be protected by even more expensive hardware. Give them some AA that's better than 70s Soviet era tech, and a large part of the aircraft fleet becomes vulnerable, requiring more of the overpriced stealth stuff (F-22, F-35, B-2). And so on. If every peasant nation like Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc., packed some cheap anti-carrier/anti-aircraft tech, military intervention would become that much more expensive. The US hasn't been good at saving money for a long time.


It's hard to save money when military expenditure is a business in itself.

The US can afford to spend the equivalent of a first world nations' GDP on a Middle East vanity project, so it sort of gets by.

Other nations using US tech tend to be left with expensive stuff they can't really fight a real war with because they can't afford enough of it though.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 01:34:38
November 30 2016 01:33 GMT
#126802
So Trump just chose an ex Goldman Sachs manager for treasury secretary. How many supporters are feeling conned right now I wonder?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 01:36:47
November 30 2016 01:35 GMT
#126803
The Trump fans who care about politics probably saw this coming. Everyone else stopped paying attention once Black Friday deals hit.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 30 2016 01:41 GMT
#126804
On November 30 2016 10:30 LegalLord wrote:
Other nations using US tech tend to be left with expensive stuff they can't really fight a real war with because they can't afford enough of it though.


At least they have tech to fight with instead of masterpieces of inanity like the F-35. That project spend hundreds of millions of dollars trying (and failing) to beat the laws of physics alone.

Fiscal waste at the Pentagon will probably continue as long as there's such an egregious lack of oversight considering government contracts. I can't image any incentive to judiciously spend on R&D when failure/inefficiency only results in more money being thrown at you.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 30 2016 01:45 GMT
#126805
On November 30 2016 10:30 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 10:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 30 2016 09:52 LegalLord wrote:
If I had to pick the most substantial weakness of the US military though, it would be how bad it is at making war on a reasonable budget. Every single weapon the US has is obscenely overpriced, and it wouldn't be hard to push the costs way up with some rather cheap shit. Arm peasant nations with relatively cheap anti-ship missiles, and now carriers are in a ton of danger and need to be protected by even more expensive hardware. Give them some AA that's better than 70s Soviet era tech, and a large part of the aircraft fleet becomes vulnerable, requiring more of the overpriced stealth stuff (F-22, F-35, B-2). And so on. If every peasant nation like Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc., packed some cheap anti-carrier/anti-aircraft tech, military intervention would become that much more expensive. The US hasn't been good at saving money for a long time.


It's hard to save money when military expenditure is a business in itself.

The US can afford to spend the equivalent of a first world nations' GDP on a Middle East vanity project, so it sort of gets by.

Other nations using US tech tend to be left with expensive stuff they can't really fight a real war with because they can't afford enough of it though.


thats the secret plan after all.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
November 30 2016 02:05 GMT
#126806
On November 30 2016 10:12 xDaunt wrote:
So who's laughing now? #makeamericagreatagain

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From the earliest days of his campaign, Donald J. Trump made keeping manufacturing jobs in the United States his signature economic issue, and the decision by Carrier, the big air-conditioner company, to move 2,000 of them from Indiana to Mexico was a tailor-made talking point for him on the stump.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump and Mike Pence, Indiana’s governor and the vice-president elect, plan to appear at Carrier’s Indianapolis plant to announce they’ve struck a deal with the company to keep a majority of the jobs in the state, according to officials with the transition team as well as Carrier.

Mr. Trump will be hard-pressed to alter the economic forces that have hammered the Rust Belt for decades, but forcing Carrier and its parent company, United Technologies, to reverse course is a powerful tactical strike that will rally his base even before he takes office.

In exchange for keeping the factory running in Indianapolis, Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence are expected to reiterate their campaign pledges to be friendlier to business by easing regulations and overhauling the corporate tax code. In addition, Mr. Trump is expected to tone down his rhetoric threatening 35 percent tariffs on companies like Carrier that shift production south of the border.


Source.

Now, I hope y'all don't miss that third paragraph that the NYT just couldn't help itself from inserting into the article. It's a perfect example of the bullshit media bias that we were railing against a few days ago. This should be a happy, positive story. Period.

It's not like they mixed in something extraneous for the purpose of slandering. It's relevant to the story and gives context to the overall objective of bringing jobs back to the rust belt. The only bias i see here is yours.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 02:17:53
November 30 2016 02:15 GMT
#126807
On November 30 2016 10:12 xDaunt wrote:
So who's laughing now? #makeamericagreatagain

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From the earliest days of his campaign, Donald J. Trump made keeping manufacturing jobs in the United States his signature economic issue, and the decision by Carrier, the big air-conditioner company, to move 2,000 of them from Indiana to Mexico was a tailor-made talking point for him on the stump.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump and Mike Pence, Indiana’s governor and the vice-president elect, plan to appear at Carrier’s Indianapolis plant to announce they’ve struck a deal with the company to keep a majority of the jobs in the state, according to officials with the transition team as well as Carrier.

Mr. Trump will be hard-pressed to alter the economic forces that have hammered the Rust Belt for decades, but forcing Carrier and its parent company, United Technologies, to reverse course is a powerful tactical strike that will rally his base even before he takes office.

In exchange for keeping the factory running in Indianapolis, Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence are expected to reiterate their campaign pledges to be friendlier to business by easing regulations and overhauling the corporate tax code. In addition, Mr. Trump is expected to tone down his rhetoric threatening 35 percent tariffs on companies like Carrier that shift production south of the border.


Source.

Now, I hope y'all don't miss that third paragraph that the NYT just couldn't help itself from inserting into the article. It's a perfect example of the bullshit media bias that we were railing against a few days ago. This should be a happy, positive story. Period.


Nevermind the 3rd paragraph, what about the 4th? He's struck a deal you don't know the terms of and are cheering it as a victory?

In supporting this are you agreeing that the 35% tariffs for companies that shift production overseas was a bad idea or did Trump strike a bad deal by giving up that idea?
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 02:32:41
November 30 2016 02:31 GMT
#126808
It's good to see Trump won't actually do the retarded economy-destroying stuff he told his supporters was necessary to put America first, I guess.

Of course he could just be lying NOW, or lying to the people he's striking a deal with, because you can never really tell.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 30 2016 02:46 GMT
#126809
On November 30 2016 08:09 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 08:01 ChristianS wrote:
On November 30 2016 06:03 LegalLord wrote:
Of all the things there is to worry about in a Trump presidency, him using his post to give his business (a luxury real estate business, mind you, not something like Haliburton) a boost is pretty far down my list of concerns.

He might have a few more foreign guests than average stay at his hotels as he bumps up the price ridiculously high and he might get his company a few more government contracts for fancy real estate in prime locations. There are worse things that could be worried about.

Sorry, isn't this just straight up corruption? How is that not a big deal. We just had a whole election cycle with one candidate getting tarred and feathered for possibly maybe sometimes being more likely to meet with people as SoS if they donated to her charity. Now we have, no joke, the President of these United States using his office to convince foreign leaders to give his business building permits, and US tax dollars are going into the President's pocket through contracts with his business, and it's no big?

Let's just say I have bigger worries over the next four years than low-level corruption and favor trading.

Mind you, I wasn't one of the "Clinton Foundation" people; my critique of her focused more on trade and foreign policy.

Still a little confused. What makes this corruption "low level"? Surely based on the elected office involved, it's about the highest level there is. If you mean he won't do it that often, I don't know what you're basing that on – he's not in office yet, who knows how often he'll do it? And anyway, in what other context would the argument "well, he's not stealing that much" be sufficient? If a cashier was just skimming a couple bucks from the register here and there, or if a CEO was only embezzling a few thousand once in a while from his company, it'd still be a huge deal that would almost certainly result in them being fired and, likely, in it being almost impossible to find another job.

Anyway, if Trump is getting his beak wet with taxpayer money, is there any reason at all to think that won't impact his policy? "Conflict of interest" isn't just a phrase, it means it would literally be in Trump's interest to choose policies that don't necessarily benefit the United States, as long as they benefit his businesses. This sort of shit is supposed to be why impeachment exists, but somehow it's nbd?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 03:01:17
November 30 2016 02:48 GMT
#126810
It really is quite remarkable how some people are heavily blaming Clinton for the lack of focus on policy when almost every time she put forward policy proposals, she was completely drowned out by noise in the media (whether on Trump's latest nonsensical declarations or on her e-mails). She had nothing to offer rural America? Here's a fact sheet that was already put forward by her campaign in August 2015. Some rural communities are suffering from substance abuses? Here are some of her proposals to fight drug and alcohol addiction. Investing in infrastructure? Check. Manufacturing? Job training? Small businesses? Transitioning to clean energy jobs? Any other issue? You name it.

So, what happened when she put policy forward? Oh, I don't know:

Ultimately, Clinton settled on a scheme the campaign named the “New College Compact.” The goal, making public college debt-free, was simple. The mechanics were not. Families would pay “realistic” fees based on income, with poorer families paying nothing at all. Students would contribute directly through work-study programs. Washington would provide most of the money, but states would have to kick in some funds and hold the line on tuition increases. The feds would also crack down on for-profit colleges where too many students were getting substandard degrees and defaulting on their loans. All in all, the proposal would require some $350 billion in new spending over 10 years, which Clinton planned to pay for by raising taxes on the rich. James Kvaal, a former Obama administration adviser who consulted on the initiative, described it in an email as “a once-in-a-century change in the relationship between the federal government and colleges, on par with the Morrill Act (which created land grant colleges in the 19th Century) and the G.I. Bill.”

A few days before Clinton’s speech, O’Leary convened a final conference call to discuss media strategy. Anticipating a lot of attention, she instructed the team to be ready by the phones. Clinton delivered her address at a high school in Exeter, New Hampshire, and afterward, held a press conference in the gym. She got just one query about the plan. Earlier that week, Trump had described Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly as having “blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever” during a debate, and so Clinton was grilled on whether Trump should apologize to Kelly, whether he had a problem with women, and what Clinton thought of the fact that Trump had retweeted someone who called Kelly a bimbo.

Over the next 24 hours, the tuition plan received only perfunctory coverage. “The calls just never came,” recalls Gene Sperling, another one of Clinton’s advisers. “It was all Kelly-Trump, 24/7.” Even many professional policy types didn’t grasp the full scope of her proposal; I didn’t realize it myself until I began researching this article. As primary season wore on, her scheme was overshadowed by a bolder, shinier promise from Senator Bernie Sanders: free public college for everyone.

The episode was typical of how this election has unfolded. Clinton’s policy operation has churned out more than 60 papers outlining plans for everything from housing for people with serious mental illness to adjusting the cap on loans from the Small Business Administration. The agenda includes extremely big items, like a promise to ensure no family pays more than 10 percent of income on child care, and extremely small ones, like investing in smartphone applications that would make it easier for military families living in remote locations to receive services available only on bases.

Now, should Clinton still have tried to focus more on policy issues? I guess so, but the point remains that policy largely received no coverage. A Tyndall Report study recently showed that by the end of October, the three flagship nightly news programs had spent a grand total of 32 minutes on issue coverage (defined as: "It takes a public policy, outlines the societal problem that needs to be addressed, describes the candidates' platform positions and proposed solutions, and evaluates their efficacy") throughout the entire year, way below the standards for previous elections. Note that this includes all possibly policy issues put together. The time spent on Clinton's e-mail server? 100 minutes -- three times more than all policy issues combined.

To put it simply, policy positions were usually not sufficient in themselves during this campaign to break through the noise in a significant way. Again, should she still have tried to push forward her policy proposals even further? Sure, and it's especially easy to say with hindsight, but anyone interested in looking at this objectively rather than through anti-Clinton lenses will be forced to conclude that media coverage and other factors are to a very substantial extent to blame for the lack of visibility of her policy proposals. Clinton would have absolutely loved for this election to be about policy, because she utterly crushes Trump on policy as soon as there's a need to go beyond a slogan.

edit: also, let's not forget how actual policy proposals that happen to aim to help minority groups against ills that they specifically are suffering from are routinely dismissed here and elsewhere as "identity politics".
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 30 2016 02:53 GMT
#126811
Low level as in, it's just some guy lining his own pockets in a way that all else held else equal I'd like to avoid, but it's unlikely to harm the country in any appreciable way. He's just going to give business to his company.

Presidents become wealthy. Trump will probably multiply his already substantial net worth while in office. Nothing particularly special to write home about; he just has more money to start with. So more conflicts of interest.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 03:22:50
November 30 2016 03:21 GMT
#126812
Courtesy of Samizdat, take a look at this wonderful picture. It says things about Trump's cabinet search that words simply cannot lol.

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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23879 Posts
November 30 2016 03:22 GMT
#126813
On November 30 2016 12:21 farvacola wrote:
Courtesy of Samizdat, take a look at this wonderful picture.

[image loading]


If Romney gets SoS I nominate that for new thread picture.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
November 30 2016 03:31 GMT
#126814
I second this.
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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
November 30 2016 03:39 GMT
#126815
Isn't this a massive incentive for companies to keep jobs here? They get a spike in free publicity and the lowered corporate tax rate plus tariffs should really continue this carrier trend. He's not even in office yet and 1000 American jobs are saved. This guy is going to get shit done, all the doubters are in for a fun 4 years.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 30 2016 03:49 GMT
#126816
Yeah with the exception that part of the deal was a tax overhaul for them. So in essence the taxpayers are paying to keep 1,000 jobs here.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23879 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 03:53:04
November 30 2016 03:50 GMT
#126817
On November 30 2016 12:39 biology]major wrote:
Isn't this a massive incentive for companies to keep jobs here? They get a spike in free publicity and the lowered corporate tax rate plus tariffs should really continue this carrier trend. He's not even in office yet and 1000 American jobs are saved. This guy is going to get shit done, all the doubters are in for a fun 4 years.


If he was really smart he'd have promised them tax breaks he has no intention on delivering. Then let Republicans argue for a tax break there's no hard evidence he ever offered them while he just takes the side of the workers.

Trump built his fortune by promising things he had no intention on delivering in ways that worked out to his benefit, of the facets I don't expect to change about Trump that's at the top of my list. Like I said a while ago, the way to get the best Trump is to make the countries success, his success, and making the countries failures his failures.

That said, I prefer Bernie's plan.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 30 2016 03:57 GMT
#126818
Also, i think, the Carrier Jobs was over 2,000 jobs. Where is the other half going?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
November 30 2016 04:01 GMT
#126819
On November 30 2016 12:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 12:39 biology]major wrote:
Isn't this a massive incentive for companies to keep jobs here? They get a spike in free publicity and the lowered corporate tax rate plus tariffs should really continue this carrier trend. He's not even in office yet and 1000 American jobs are saved. This guy is going to get shit done, all the doubters are in for a fun 4 years.


If he was really smart he'd have promised them tax breaks he has no intention on delivering. Then let Republicans argue for a tax break there's no hard evidence he ever offered them while he just takes the side of the workers.

Trump built his fortune by promising things he had no intention on delivering in ways that worked out to his benefit, of the facets I don't expect to change about Trump that's at the top of my list. Like I said a while ago, the way to get the best Trump is to make the countries success, his success, and making the countries failures his failures.

That said, I prefer Bernie's plan.


I know you prefer bernie's plan, but what we are seeing here is an initiative and ability to get things done that bernie doesn't have. Simply put he's an idealist who spent his entire life just shouting ideas and not actually doing anything. Forrest Gump didn't have grand plans but he just did stuff and made them happen, I'd rather have that type of person in charge than an idealist with heart but no ability.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 30 2016 04:04 GMT
#126820
Trump hasn't given up anything yet. And if the price is lowering corporate tax rates, that should have happened years ago. Our current corporate tax rates are idiotically high.
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