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On November 16 2016 00:10 Sermokala wrote: Beacuse the exact thing the EU needs right now is to get into a trade war with the US.
Ditching regulations to be more competetive (what Trump seems to want) is starting a Tradewar, responding to it isn't.
How can he deport the children of illegal immigrants? Don't they become US citizens by being born in the US?
Not all children of illegal immigrants were born in the US, some people illegally immigrated with children that were born elsewhere.
Also... if your parents are being deported and you are a minor, then you could stay with them (as a US citizen living abroad) or go into foster care in the US as a US citizen without parents able to take care of you.
Ideally in that type of situation (if you are going to deport illegal immigrants with citizen children), you let the parents choose... if they want their child to go back with them or stay with adult legal immigrant/citizen relatives or go into the foster system.
(basically the same thing that happens when you arrest parents with noncriminal children...except they don't have the option of having their kids go to jail with them)
Do you have 0 sympathy for the children in this scenario? Their lives are pretty much destroyed either way. And, unlike with arresting "normal" criminals, we aren't improving the safety of society-or their children-by deporting non-criminal illegal aliens. In fact, we're often hurting the long-term emotional and physical health of American citizens (the children) whether they leave or stay.
WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump’s transition operation plunged into disarray on Tuesday with the abrupt resignation of Mike Rogers, who had handled national security matters, the second shake-up in a week on a team that has not yet begun to execute the daunting task of taking over the government.
In a statement on Tuesday, Mr. Rogers, a former congressman from Michigan who led the House Intelligence Committee, said that he was “proud of the team that we assembled at Trump for America to produce meaningful policy, personnel and agency action guidance on the complex national security challenges facing our great country,” and that he was “pleased to hand off our work” to a new transition team led by Vice President-elect Mike Pence.
Mr. Pence took the helm of the effort on Friday after Mr. Trump unceremoniously removed Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, who had been preparing with Obama administration officials for months to put the complex transition process into motion. Now the effort is frozen, senior White House officials say, because Mr. Pence has yet to sign legally required paperwork to allow his team to begin collaborating with President Obama’s aides on the handover.
An aide to Mr. Trump’s transition team who insisted on anonymity to discuss internal matters said that the delay was taking place because the wording of the document was being altered and updated, and that it was likely to be signed later Tuesday.
Still, the slow and uncertain start to what is normally a rapid and meticulously planned transfer of power could have profound implications for Mr. Trump’s nascent administration, challenging the efforts of the president-elect to gain control of the federal bureaucracy and begin building a staff fully briefed on what he will face in the Oval Office on Day 1.
On November 16 2016 02:17 a_flayer wrote: Huh, this seems interesting. Looks like Trump can be... reasoned with? Maybe he's not a fascist after all.
I'm not sure which option is worse for the image of the US. Trump is fascist moron, or Trump pretended to be a fascist moron because that's what apparently increases your chances of being elected over there
I'm sure the world already believes that in any given year the US has a roughly 50 percent chance of going insane and electing someone crazy and ridiculous.
On November 16 2016 02:40 farvacola wrote: Ben Carson just announced that he has no interest in a Trump cabinet position.
That's alright, we don't have any interest in Carson having a Trump cabinet position either. He seems pretty off even by the usual Trump surrogate standards.
Some guy getting elected that is openly hostile to the press, throws out racist bullshit, makes fun of disabled people and has "no problem" with sexism is kinda "new".
And these are just the things that make him a giant asshole, plenty more "serious" problems that should disqualify him from doing anything in a public office did matter even less...
On November 16 2016 02:44 Velr wrote: Won't like is one thing.
Some guy getting elected that is openly hostile to the press, throws out racist bullshit, makes fun of disabled people and has "no problem" with sexism is kinda "new".
And these are just the things that make him a giant asshole, plenty more "serious" problems that should disqualify him from doing anything in a public office did matter even less...
I suppose the problem is that the vast majority of the country believes that neither candidate should be qualified to be president based on their faults. From the outside looking in Clinton might not look that bad but among Americans many factors converge and it quickly becomes clear that to them she really is that bad. People aren't unaware of what a danger Trump poses but many of them just don't want Hillary Clinton and are willing to trust Trump over her.
eh. at this point i'm hoping that economically and socially vulnerable groups won't be impacted too much by what is shaping up to be 4 years of utter incompetence. i'll be okay as long as asians retain model minority status or nukes don't start flying, i guess.
if trump is draining the swamp though,. it looks like he's replacing it with the dregs. bunch of has-beens like jindal and giuliani that couldn't actually get anywhere by themselves. i look forward to giuliani being raked over the coals if he does get a nomination, though.
I don't know this seems more in line with the reasoning that led to giving Obama a Nobel Peace Prize, but hopefully it's an actual sign of things to come.
On November 16 2016 02:51 ticklishmusic wrote: eh. at this point i'm hoping that economically and socially vulnerable groups won't be impacted too much by what is shaping up to be 4 years of utter incompetence. i'll be okay as long as asians retain model minority status or nukes don't start flying, i guess.
if trump is draining the swamp though,. it looks like he's replacing it with the dregs. bunch of has-beens like jindal and giuliani that couldn't actually get anywhere by themselves. i look forward to giuliani being raked over the coals if he does get a nomination, though.
I hope we will see a productive political realignment within the next four years that will make this all worth it in the long run.
On November 16 2016 02:51 ticklishmusic wrote: eh. at this point i'm hoping that economically and socially vulnerable groups won't be impacted too much by what is shaping up to be 4 years of utter incompetence. i'll be okay as long as asians retain model minority status or nukes don't start flying, i guess.
if trump is draining the swamp though,. it looks like he's replacing it with the dregs. bunch of has-beens like jindal and giuliani that couldn't actually get anywhere by themselves. i look forward to giuliani being raked over the coals if he does get a nomination, though.
I hope we will see a productive political realignment within the next four years that will make this all worth it in the long run.
'tis to be hoped, but I doubt it will occur. just as few actually care/vote on policy, few work on the kind of structural adjustments that can fix things long-term.
Just look at how much bargaining power an individual is able to obtain from being unpredictable. Seriously people should learn from Trump in negotiating. Nothing is taken for granted, and everything has to be bargained for with him.
On November 16 2016 03:04 biology]major wrote: Just look at how much bargaining power an individual is able to obtain from being unpredictable. Seriously people should learn from Trump in negotiating. Nothing is taken for granted, and everything has to be bargained for with him.
don't overestimate the value in that, it's very double edged; it can lead to favorable negotiations, or it can lead to people not wanting to deal with you at all. also, you don't inherently gain bargaining power from being unpredictable. it's certainly something to study and observe, not that there's anything notably new; the history of the study of negotiating tactics is very long and deep.
On November 16 2016 03:04 biology]major wrote: Just look at how much bargaining power an individual is able to obtain from being unpredictable. Seriously people should learn from Trump in negotiating. Nothing is taken for granted, and everything has to be bargained for with him.
don't overestimate the value in that, it's very double edged; it can lead to favorable negotiations, or it can lead to people not wanting to deal with you at all. also, you don't inherently gain bargaining power from being unpredictable. it's certainly something to study and observe, not that there's anything notably new; the history of the study of negotiating tactics is very long and deep.
The good news is people want to, and in fact absolutely depend on the USA, so it an optimal strategy. Everything in life is in some form or another a negotiation between two opposing parties, on an individual level we prefer a reasonable standard of kindness to supercede that type of thinking, but when dealing with nation states there is no room for feelings, just interests of different countries being evaluated and reaching compromise. Guess what, when you have someone like trump, it becomes very difficult for opposing parties to make assumptions and take positions for granted.
On November 16 2016 03:04 biology]major wrote: Just look at how much bargaining power an individual is able to obtain from being unpredictable. Seriously people should learn from Trump in negotiating. Nothing is taken for granted, and everything has to be bargained for with him.
trump hasnt negotiated diddly squat, so im not sure how that has any bearing here.
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